Dave

Talking to the wall comes to mind..

There should be no valid reason for bieng rude and offensive to anyone, why would you take your anger out on someone else who is just a sprite on a screen. You could always add a swear filter that filters out offensive words.

Yeah there needs to be more castles for WoE 1 castle is boring.Im sure there is a few guild that would WoE if there was more than one caslte to take.

Forsaken Donation Items in NoN donation PvP: You know the story,you go in None Donation PvP have a fight,you win the other guy says "come to Donation room i dont have my equips",some people just can't fight without there uber stuff i guess. Next thing you know they come back and whale on your ass only this time they have there equips,there donation equips that is in NoN donation pvp,how? Some people just dont like to lose so they get a friend to put there Donation stuff in a Cart,they both go in NoN Donation PvP and trade items inside,as a result of this little flaw in the system people are getting there Donation stuff in NoN Donation PvP. So now you know how the guy you beat easy last time,just got harder the second time around. This needs to be fixed,quite a few people are taking advantage of this to get kills and pvp ranks in NoN Donation PvP,not only that but it doesnt give the rest a fair chance.

Why no Novies? ok they probably wont win but they should be allowed to enter if they wish.

Yah wizzies pound on each other with wands is somthing i always wanted to try...

But that still doesn't stop 3 card spamage from other classes that dish out a lot of damage,sin-x 100k,a hit i have seen,pally with 80k sac rit,champs spamming azura at 999999 a go all with no delay,AD with no delay ,WS carded weapons that is just absolutely ridiculous people with this only have to look at you and your stuff breaks all with no delay Plus there is also a lot of ways to beef up P.damage too, so magic classes although can get powerful they will never be able to compete damage wise with other classes. There are things that could help control this to a certain extent like removing AD from the NPC,making EDP enchant your weapon to poison but keeping the damage aspect of it,lowering att speed,lower kiel card effect to 20%,and stop handing out MVP cards that can unbalance the server to donators.All these things could be done quite easy and not make to much of a dent in class builds. This is just a few things i thought of while writing this,they may not be a solution to everything but it would be a step in the right direction.

Then you have apologies ,far to many people on the server believe they are good at a class just because the can donate to get what they need,it makes people arrogant and spiteful to the rest,and behave like dickheads to-boot. I meant no disrespect to you or anyone else that can play a class skillfully without having to pay for the privilege,and do it with respect for to others.

What about 3 kiel card spammage from other classes? They still get to use it becuase the new card is only usefull for magic classes so other classes can spam mega damage,doesnt seem right to limit magic classes to two cards when everyone else can use three,the new card should go on a shield then you can use that or GTB not both at the same time.

These threads really make no sence as most of these so called top players,have donated to get what they have,it does not make them skillfull,just gives them an advantage over everyone else is all.

Well, i think you need to read what the card will do or what they said it will do after the change,it will still block magic (99Mdef)unless you get the new card(ignore all Mdef eccept INT Mdef,meaning all the equips and items that add Mdef will be of no use)this to me is silly it penalizes those that dont have GTB but get attacked by someone with the new card,but the damage they do to you will be reduced by 10%,Immunity to Coma and Stone Curse. As for GTB blocking coma,i have still been effected by coma with GTB on other servers,i have never had coma/sc on here so i cant say,but i certainly did get coma while i had it on the other servers i played including the official one,SC as far as i know wasnt blocked by GTB or should i say should'nt have been,no status effects should be blocked by GTB, it was not intended to do that only to block magic,not status effects added by weapons,items,cards,doing so would make the card to overpowered with no counter to it at least thats what it is on the official server they would'nt make a card that made all the other cards they had totaly useless bad buisness for a PTP server,those extra's if it does that now were added because the population of this server got fed up with bieng coma and SC so they moaned about it till something was done.

How does this change give wizards a small advantage? Nothing has changed GTB still blocks magic,the only thing that has changed is the fact that now other classes are protected from Coma and Stone curse,i cant see that bieng an advantage to magic classes,if anything its more of a disadvantage as now they cant use there SC skill either. This change and new card wont benefit magic classes for sometime to come and untill the new card is widespread enough magic classes are still going to be in the same position they were in before the GTB change,and when the new card does become so widespread your going to have the same problem all over again as the other classes will moan there getting a raw deal because they cant block magic anymore. So it will be a case of adding somthing else to counter that. Also you mention the maya card and 100% reflect it cant be so usefull if it was all the other classes would use it in favour of GTB,oh srry i forgot if they did that they would have to alter there donator build and we cant have that.

You mean like, sin-x ,pally champs,snipers,creators do now? Im sorry i disagree that giving wizzies a chance to fight back is wrong,you say imagine a server where wizards run amok,well guess what its like that now only its not the magic class that is doing it. I also don't see it as sacrificing something major from other classes i see it more as giving the magic class more balance to kill these other classes as i said before there are cards and equips that counter magic,there are also skills that can too,not fully i agree but at least the other classes will have a chance,not like the magic class has now. Anyway all this is Mute,because i cant see anything happening that will change this,the decision to add a new card has been made,dispite the fact imo it will change nothing and make wizards even worse off than they are now. There are to many people with other classes that will always disagree about magic classes gaining to much power,mostly because these classes have it already and dont want to lose it.

As i said in my post...

This is infact not true most damage classes can kill a magic class in under 2 seconds,magic classes do not have the ability as it is now to beat the high damage classes,and all GTB does atm is give them immunity to other magic classes. The other classes use GTB because they know that they get easy kills from magic classes with it knowing they cant get hurt,making GTB a magic only class card levels the field wizards can actually fight back and have a chance to win.

I Disagree the effects you mention have cards in place already to prevent them,or grant immunity to them,with the exeption of Coma,witch is an effect that effect's all players including wizards so they would gain no advantage over anyone else.

To me this is the best solution: GTB card only usable by magic classes and left it as it was and still add this new card. This helps wizzies as was intended and still gives the advantage to other magic class users that are lucky enough to get the new card. You may think this gives magic classes a huge advantage,but in reality it doesnt,it may lvl the playng field somewhat but wizzies will still die pretty dam quick even with this. If you want to help magic classes then help them dont half ass about pretending to help,actually make a difference. As for the SC card thats not needed at all,and is only bieng added to pamper to those who dislike having a skill that can actually help kill them.

So the 10% damage Reduction is supposed to make up for all the Mdef loss from my items and cards?, well i would rather have that back and lose the 10% reduction. This GTB "change" was supposed to help wizzies not strip them off what is for all intent and purposes there only defence. I don't think this was thought out fully enough and the knock on effects to other ingame things was missed,hell it doesnt even matter if i have a GTB anymore its gone beyond that now i lose my Mdef regardless that is just making the magic class weaker imo not helping them. The real issue is not the the magic class is so weak,its that the other classes are so strong,the game leans toward other classes with regards items and cards at the cost of magic classes,the GTB changing just goes to prove this,you could have made the GTB card only usable by magic classes and left it as it was and still added this new card that is to be honest only really usefull to magic classes anyway,that would have at least put the magic class on par with the others. The simple fact is this that altering one card will not help magic classes compete in a way that can make a difference to them ingame,the only way to do that is either lowering the damage other classes can do,or making GTB card magic only class as i said above,then they might be able to compete at a level that is somewhat acceptable to the class. Everything else is just to add a feel good factor and make it seem like magic class chars are worth making. After re-reading the post's both here and in the poll,i kinda get the feeling that was never about the GTB,it was about the complaints recived about Coma and Stone Curse,and changing the GTB card was a simple way out for the GM team,beats rewriting loads of scipts when you can just do one. There is even a new card going to be added to make players immune to SC now that GTB make you immune to Come,see where im comming from a skill that magic classes can use to help them overcome the obvious difference in classes is going to get a whole new card just to make that obsolete(this is going to help magic classes how?) to me just another example of the lean toward other classes at the expence of magic classes,even though a card already exsists ingame that does just this. There has been no mention of a new skill to replace SC,so again a skill gone to waste that weakens magic classes.

So,let e get this straight,you still get to keep the Int Mdef,but all the other Mdef added by Items/Cards and things is going to be ignored? Then its like what i said you dont need items/cards that add Mdef now because this new card will make these items worthless,even the Mdef from armours elite/donation is going to be ignored so that kinda makes them usless too. Seems like the new card is making more things ingame obselete rather than just countering GTB as it was supposed to.

Yeah thats what the guy that killed me said,but i have one shield and it has GTB card on it ,so i know i didnt use the wrong shield. Also why would it block all gear Mdef? if you dont use GTB then it still ignores the Mdef that gears add,that is penalizing those that dont have the card isnt it?,and makes those equips useless. Answer this?

Nope it was a proffesor that killed me he was not near me and killed me with firebolt from quite a distance away and as strip doesnt work with magic..

yeah i have that and it has been patched,what im saying is that i was killed by a person by magic while i had GTB card equiped,if the Mdef card is not yet in the game how the hell did this happen. Also why would it block all gear Mdef? if you dont use GTB then it still ignores the Mdef that gears add,that is penalizing those that dont have the card isnt it?,and makes those equips useless.

Well then someone is hacking because i have been killed by magic throught GTB,you say its not added,well maybe it was you killed me in testing the card,all i know is that is does disregard all Mdef not just that added by GTB. It ignore all Mdef that includes int def too i have 62+300 m def with GTB thats 99+300 ok it makes it up to 99 but it doesnt take into account your existing Mdef it just ignores it all.

Having seen this new card working one thing i have to note is ,that it does work but that it ignores all Mdef not just the 99 from GTB,now is this intentional or what? because i dont think it should ignore all your Mdef if you have in my case 62+ int mdef the GTB now just rounds it off to 99+ w/e int it disregards the mdef you have before this, i think this is wrong otherwise all the mdef adding equips are completly useless,sure disregard 99 Mdef but not all the Mdef you have with equips and int,even those that dont have GTB have Mdef and they will suffer because this card now make that useless. So now using GTB penalizes you for having the card thats wrong.

Where to start, I am posting this because i am sick and tired of all these people who think just because they can afford to pay for there things they can be as obnoxious ,dont get me wrong im all for donating and getting the rewards for it, but some people just dont get the fact its a game and have to abuse you verbally and call you names just because you cant compete with what they have. Now im not a sore loser i rarely go in pvp but when i do i like to think i can give as good as i get, and i do, to be honest as a wiz i cant do a lot but i can hold my own,but some people just are so rude and down right arrogant,not becuase they can kill me,witch is no hard thing to do but because they have to be rude and sarcastic with it. I dont mind dieing i dont mind playing a class that is somewhat in a disadvantage to others but what i do draw the line at is bieng abused because of it,ok i may not have all the equips they have or the cards they have but i do know how to behave online. So to all you people who think because you can afford to donate and have nice things dont be so cocky and abusive its just a game doesnt matter who does what, manners cost nothing. I wont give out names,its not my way but the people will know what they do and it needs to stop dont be so stupid as to think this is personnel its a game enjoy it as such and act accordingly.