Rayray

As topic says, Buying 1x Old Int Belt. Also Buying an elite Creator Weapon that is not OP :D pm me on my Creator Nightmare[Alt+255]Zero or leave a message here and I will contact you

legendary blades give half of what Loki blades give

you can try to ask the gms if he had some kind of email. im not sure how you are going to prove it's yours though, because that would take a long time to check in the logs(not even sure if that is possible)

Cool Girl uses expert rings too and WS buffs and he can spam like 3-4. btw he uses 2 expert rings i think. that seems too much so yeah, i agree on putting back the delay to what it was before..

Welcome to the server :D

Bump for this. I do hope someone makes a guide :D

@Old Navy is that you randoming yesterday on for_fild? nice damage and spam btw, but as you see, if people are wary and alert and is using even just a shield(I was the stalker Shadow Zero and im only using fshield+usakoring) they would live through the damage.

you lose double attack if you put loki in the main hand(it is not a dagger), But technically you damage more with the loki in the main hand since it has higher attack than the fdagger. it's basically a trade. if you think you would almost always use a shield then i suggest put the loki in the main hand since double attack with one fdagger roughly does the same damage if you had loki in the right hand(with the right cards). however if you want full damage and you will be using almost always 2 weapons, then just put the loki in the left hand(so you dont lose the double attack)

Im looking for elite creator weapons(since I am kinda poor and i want to start with this. although i never knew the effects, so could someone please list down the effect of the elite weapon? :D also, I am selling 2x kiel cards, 45 ea or trade both + tokens for an elite creator weapon and one old int belt.

If we consider everything, then LKs would win hands down. Like Old Navy said, most LKs now use bowling bash because of the valk weapon(which was supposedly a 2 handed weapon, now it is one handed). now they can use parry and the shield? add 2 hand quicken with that and they save a few stat points. SB sinx are more vulnerable now considering we had to use 4kiels, kitty claws, a link, probably WS buffs to add to the damage since we cannot spam as efficiently as before, and we had to use expert rings(which cuts our damage since we cannot even use old str belts) and we cannot use a shield while every class now can. slap on a puppetring and you win against an SB sinx. hell, a highwiz with an elite weapon could even kill a fully geared SB sinx.

"Y'know life...is like a train. It's bearing down on you, and guess what?...It's gonna hit you! So you can either start running when it's far off in the distance, or you can pull up a chair, crack open a beer...and just watch it come"

But does being a little faster justify the penalty of not having a shield?

well, with math how can I argue? kidding aside, champs do that same amount of damage too btw. and they are not as hindered as SB sinx(they can use shield).

no need to remember it anyway, it is always here in the wiki :D

tbh, it was so easy to change gear in battle so i dunno if this would be accepted.

my incant damage of sonic blow on shielded opponents(not going full buffs, only using link) is 12k-13k max, going 16k-18k if i do full buffs and go full str, most of the time it's 9k per hit(this is on normal gear donation gear, not using the new accessories, most of the time im using expert rings to cut the delay) depending on the opponents gear. TBH i would rather have a fix on the delay, i find shielded katar users weird for some reason, i just put the one hand katar as an alternative but i think most of the community wouldn't like it anyway :p

We had given the long range classes a one hand bow(and gun and shurikens). Desperado is easily spammable and that damages more or less the same as SB. What I was suggesting is basically a trade off. if we cannot get any kind of compensation regarding SB spam(which needs 4 kiels, a link, a valk weapon and probably expert rings to achieve what can be achieved before with just 3 kiels and expert rings) then SB sinx is a dying class. people who will suggest double deviling against champs really haven't used an SB sinx. without any kind of protection for Puppetring, if we cannot kill the champ in one spam of SB(2-3 is the most common we can do now), then we die. unless you have thana and they are not using skolls, the best you could achieve with SB is 16k-18k each hit on shielded opponents(and that is with full buffs and they are just wearing the shield+usakoring as reducts). I am suggesting it as an alternative if the delay wouldn't be fixed. if it would then don't make it a one hand. honestly, a one handed crit sinx would do more damage than an SB sinx right now, so i don't really get what the fuss is about if we give katar users a shield.

the topic was made regarding sonic blow. if you have a different suggestion, go create another one instead of making a suggestion as an irrelevant comment. that's kinda disrespectful on the topic starter. @topic The reason link wasn't double the damage anymore because it was so OP before. about 3 years ago i think, it was the normal effect, my sonic blow was able to hit around 45k-50k per hit on unshielded opponents. and that is on incantation samurai and not thana. PVP became boring that time since everyone is using SB, and only LKs and Pallys were able to live. on spamming SB, as with most skills, ping is also an issue. before the patch regarding fixing BN, the max i can spam is 4. and that is the only skill aside from magic skills on my other chars that i can spam. because of ping issues, i cannot be an good Finger Offensive champ. right now i can spam 3 SBs using elite katar, 4kiels, and expert rings and link. tbh, not that great.. My suggestion: if we cannot do anything regarding delays, I suggest making katars a one hand weapon. Spiral Pierce hits around the same as a sonic blow with the right cards, much more spammable than SB, has a better range considering it uses a spear, and used by a class with the 2nd highest hp modifier in the game, and they could use a shield. i find it a little unfair, if we cannot spam SB at least 3x and make it what it should be, a kill or be killed skill.

giving items that help them MVP is great. even if this is a pvp server, they would need to mvp at some point to have a better chance at pvp. Better event and vote items among other things/

^ tracking individual IP addresses would be too much of a hassle. :D The knight set is already good for new players.

um more aura quests? and please no auras that gives below 15 stats. most newbies see the auras(and fhelm for that matter) as a sign of having decent items. so giving them a quest that gives an aura will make them have some sense of accomplishment(i know i did when i did the dragon aura quest :p)

@Zerg well we did the elite quest as a whole guild so that might've been the reason we were able to do it, it was like all wizards hunt hydras and carats, champs and creators and sinx hunt the mvps needed for every elite quest and trade them with each other.. i kinda understand that it is annoying to do alone though