Asian/European Woe and GvG

[Yusuke]

I wish you would live in Europe then I would laugh about how you beg to change the time of woe.

[Crack Baby]

I wish you would live in Europe then I would laugh about how you beg to change the time of woe.

In all honesty, if I took WOE that seriously, I would play a server based in my time zone.

[Zeitgeist]

In all honesty, if I took WOE that seriously, I would play a server based in my time zone.

Then again, it would be a long shot to find a server which offers what fRO does with a different timezone. Like I said, this is really possible if people start doing some research on what times do most people get their free time in their countries so we ensure max attendance to this new WoE; most serious players would like to participate in this second WoE and, chances are, they're going to participate seriously in this EuroWoE.

[Terroryst]

See, this wouldn't be a problem if you all played naked.

[Crack Baby]

Then again, it would be a long shot to find a server which offers what fRO does with a different timezone. Like I said, this is really possible if people start doing some research on what times do most people get their free time in their countries so we ensure max attendance to this new WoE; most serious players would like to participate in this second WoE and, chances are, they're going to participate seriously in this EuroWoE.

I know pro's will more than lkely participate in the second WOE as well. So what's to stop the bitching that will start when people who prompted for the second WOE can't get/keep a castle? As long as no one says anythinig about how people not in their time zone can't participate in the WOE then fine. Also, don't change the WOE times that are already n effect, just add a couple so "everyone" can be happy.

[nero_Pr!esT]

i agree with yusuke i think a asain/Euro WoE/GvG would be cool =) and tbh 6-7 pm London time seems to pop up to me the most and yeah im not from that time but still would be cool to have another WoE at that time cause then more woe action and more ppl (isnt more ppl good for the server?) i hope this helps the topic and helps make asain/euro woe/ GvG possible :P correct me if i made any mistakes and be nice my typing and typos suck lol

[Devotion]

6-7PM London time isn't good for all Asians. Woe would be held at 1pm server time. Players in Hong Kong would need to get up, or stay up until 2-3 AM for this woe time. Even on Saturdays, our younger players may not be able to do this.

[Yusuke]

Then the ONLY SOLUTION IS.... The woe must be for US people in the morning! for european afternoon! and for asians evening! that's the ONLY way most of people can get to woe without anyone complaining he can't wake up in the middle of the night to play it. just tell me if you agree to this because there is no other way because someone will have to play on night otherwise than this suggetion.

[Devotion]

That's the point. There is no way to appease everyone. I've met quite a few Japanese and Australian players, and South Americans as well. As Zeit mentioned, we'd need to take a survey to see where the majority of foreign players are to decide on a decent time to please the most players possible.

I disagree with three woes.

[Yusuke]

The point now that US people won't complain then if they have woe on mornings because it will probably happen. "too early , can't wake up , I only wake up in 2 pm" and such XD so we need people to agree to play on mornings.

[Devotion]

I'm really not seeing what you want to say. No offense but your grammar is confusing me. Why are Americans going to complain?

[Yusuke]

The only way to make everyone happy about woe is how I said. For US People it means on mornings. Now I meant they will complain "It's too early for me" "I wake up in 2 pm so I can't" and stuff like that.

[Devotion]

See, you can't make everyone happy with 2-3 woe times. That's the problem. It will never happen. We need to concentrate on the population that would be most worthwhile allotting a separate time to.

The American woe time was picked because it's during peak hours. It won't be changed if peak hours stay relatively the same.

[Yusuke]

So if you have woe , US People, Can we Make woe for us afternoon and Asians evening? like another 1 woe once a week.

[Devotion]

I doubt that would happen, for a few reasons. Mainly because too many woes are not good for server balance. It would dish out too many rare items. Think about it; at some point rucksacks will be the old thing, and there will be something else. Besides, if you woe just for the items, then why woe. That's just a different point of view.

[Yusuke]

It costs too much to buy woe drops espacially when most of the server doesn't sell them so yea we must woe to get them xD

[Devotion]

That doesn't change the huge risk that having too many woes would throw the server off balance. Try finding another time more central Asia time, maybe to compensate Asia and Europe better.

[Yusuke]

Yea, Afternoon for us and evening for them is the best I could find.

[Avalon]

You guys seem to think very narrow mindedly, unless these suggestions have already been casted.

You could always just split the castles in half (while considering their drops) and make one half WoE at <insert convenient time here> and another half WoE at <insert another convenient time here>. This could increase the concentration of people in castles, which could be both a good thing and a bad thing. If the population density of castles is low, then it would be good to get much more action into castles. If the population density is high, then castles would become too crowded and it would turn into an all out war with little chances of a successful defense, but other guilds in pre-Emperium rooms would probably kill each other, leaving the defenders with a good amount of people.

There is also the idea of making an entirely separate server and making that WoE on a convenient time for Eurasian people. Of course, this would reduce the population of the other server(s) from Eurasian people leaving and people leaving for a new start, which would have unpredictable effects. The population of Eurasian people is most likely not enough for an entire WoE for themselves. The population of all the servers as a whole would be greater than the population of just the normal server as of now, because we could attract Eurasian people. This could be an idea to consider if the Eurasian population becomes or is big enough.

[Devotion]

There is no convenient time for everyone.

As of now, no guild can hold Sacred for more than one WoE, and Prontera barely gets broken. Payon gets plenty of action, especially for a population of ~350 every WoE. There are 5-10 guilds after it at once. But no one can break Prontera defense well enough to keep the castle. So the majority of rucksacks are coming from Prontera and going into one guild.

What's to stop this from happening if we have a Eurasian WoE, especially if there is only one castle open at one time. Then players will complain about that. This is, after all, a concern about WoE drop only being obtained by Americans or whoever WoE during the current WoE time, right? What's going to stop a large Eurasian guild from taking and keeping the Eurasian castle.

There is a reason why rucksacks are not in great circulation, and that the ones that are available aren't being sold. Trans managed to bring up their economy and keep their castle, so the deviling bags are staying with them for the most part. And since half a dozen guilds fight over Payon, angeling bags are a rarity. The WoE time has just as much to do with the circulation of WoE drops as the way the players fight over the castles. If Trans hadn't secured Prontera like it has, rucksacks would be very rare, and we wouldn't have this issue.

To be blunt, Trans has a monopoly of Deviling bags, but that's good for them. They managed to keep their castle, and now no one can break past them, because all the guilds are busy squabling over Payon, instead of working together to go after Prontera.

[Genesis]

I'm still waiting for a time based on servertime that will appeal to euro/asian players.

[Yusuke]

Ok so for the asians + Europeans I suggest this by GMT + 2:

16:00-17:00 Or 15:00-16:00 or 17:00-18:00

I checked it and for asians it also goes fine I think espacially the first time.

I think It should be on sunday because most of people have days off and can be on those times. (Even US people who wake up on mornings can participate). I agree to anyday besides Monday.

[Genesis]

I said based on SERVER TIME. which is GMT -05:00

[Yusuke]

OK then:

09:00-10:00 AM Or 10:00-11:00 AM Or 08:00 - 09:00 AM.

[Genesis]

Please suggest a castle ( One that isn't active already).