WoE Ideas.

[Genesis]

Well I came accross a thought; instead of adding things I think would make WoE more fun why don't I ask the players? So here I am. =]

My Question:

What would make YOU ( not someone else but YOU) do WoE. =]

[Emy]

if ppl didn't berry spam =_=

[Defiance]

If there are more castles to siege then I would definitely be serious when it comes to WOE. I'm still a player too am I right? ;O

Well I still wanted to see at least 5 main guilds holding each Prontera castle. That way, more WOE enthusiasts would try instead of give up because there is only one guild (not to mention strong people staying in a single guild to avoid rivalry). At least if there were more castles, they would actually aspire to become a successful guild leader themselves. I mean, strategies fail if all 1020120 guilds attacks 1 castle in WOE. Being a WOE enthusiast myself, I haven't felt much fun in WOE with just one castle on.

[Emy]

Agreed 100% with defiance.

[limitless]

People don't WoE seriously, regardless of how many castles there are.

If they did, then the castle wouldn't be dominated by a single guild

There hasn't been motivation for guilds to WoE, but that'll change now that Gen's adding new items for WoE (Flappings were never a necessity).

[Genesis]

Post stuff that is relevant to the topic. I don't think enabling more castles would do anything other than spread the WoEing Community into smaller Guilds. I believe the reason people do not WoE is because they believe that Limitless Guild is unstoppable and that they have "everyone" and the "best people"; You are wrong, nothing is unstoppable everything has a weakness; we have enough people in this server for 3~5 POWERFUL Guilds instead of just 1. If you expect to win in a random unorganized way you have no chance at all.

[Terminus]

Add a custom castle.

[geldaz]

What would make me WoE? Well the GM's can't do nothing about it but here's what I think:

If the main strongest players weren't focused in one single guild ((that is,limitless)) It would be much funnier. Now that influence is down,that means,epic is off da hood,there won't be even fun at all WoEing. Why? Limitless had LUCK on recruiting some active players,and reach 25+ players on WoE,having atleast 2-3 pros,5-8 veterans. The other guilds got 1-2 pro's and like noone else online.

It's not what you are giving us ((berries)) for WoE that makes me entusiasm and go do it. It's the fun having a decent Seige without seeing every player on the same guild.

[Genesis]

Add a custom castle.

I don't see how that will do anything.

What would make me WoE? Well the GM's can't do nothing about it but here's what I think:

If the main strongest players weren't focused in one single guild ((that is,limitless)) It would be much funnier. Now that influence is down,that means,epic is off da hood,there won't be even fun at all WoEing. Why? Limitless had LUCK on recruiting some active players,and reach 25+ players on WoE,having atleast 2-3 pros,5-8 veterans. The other guilds got 1-2 pro's and like noone else online.

It's not what you are giving us ((berries)) for WoE that makes me entusiasm and go do it. It's the fun having a decent Seige without seeing every player on the same guild.

As you said it yourself; 25 + people ( call it 30) what about the other 240 people that are on during WoE ? If you WoE and can hold the Castle you will get much more than just some Yggs ( refer to: http://forum.forsaken-ro.net/index.php?showtopic=4890)

"If the main strongest players weren't focused in one single guild ((that is,limitless))"

According to the following Statement you do not consider:

Epic

Mike

Thiago

Blackeye

Voltex

Everyone in Turtle

Drax

Yourself

And the 40 + other people that PvP strong? Because I do.

[Dave]

More castles would be a good start,having a choice of what castle to att is a must imo for a good woe.

Also the time of woe for me personally is not so good around midnight sometimes my time somtimes early morning.

It might also be an idea to encourage more to guilds to woe,if you could only take one castle at a time,that way your not gonna get swamped by a guild that already has a castle,this might encourage more to take and hold what they have instead of randomly attacking castles.

I good active woe guild i could join would help me too lol.

[geldaz]

Which many of those are in separate guilds? Turtle only has Slipher good,so it's not the whole ((and the other walshie char)).

Epic is out of RO in general.

Mike doesn't WoE at all,he used to go way more in the old times.

Thiago does WoE,but he isn't in a guild that is focused on many strong players.

Drax is back? >_>

What you're probably gonna say now is '' They're alot,and limitless is defending so,their getting ganged by all of them''.

Since it's 1 castle,people just FOCUS on getting it at all costs,that means,they won't let anyone through.

Example:

Player X runs ,focusing on getting to the emperium.

Player Y runs after Player X so that his guild (( player X guild)) won't get the castle.

It's pretty much that. Adding more castles would help too.

[MikE~XII]

What I would like to see is more castle =]

[Genesis]

1.Which many of those are in separate guilds? Turtle only has Slipher good,so it's not the whole ((and the other walshie char)).

Epic is out of RO in general.

2.Mike doesn't WoE at all,he used to go way more in the old times.

3.Thiago does WoE,but he isn't in a guild that is focused on many strong players.

4.Drax is back? >_>

5.What you're probably gonna say now is '' They're alot,and limitless is defending so,their getting ganged by all of them''.

6.Since it's 1 castle,people just FOCUS on getting it at all costs,that means,they won't let anyone through.

Example:

Player X runs ,focusing on getting to the emperium.

Player Y runs after Player X so that his guild (( player X guild)) won't get the castle.

It's pretty much that. Adding more castles would help too.

1.Reorganize under 1 leader?

2. Get him to WoE?

3.Get him and THEM to WoE?

4. He never left.

5.What I'm going to say is instead of going in 1 at a time with a SinX you actually organize a siege. ( Which has been done and Limitless HAS had its castle taken before)

6. And how is focusing on 1 castle bad ?

[limitless]

Luck? Pros? Veterans?

There's a huge difference between the amount of effort we put into WoE and the other guilds.

This guild was created 7 weeks before anyone ever saw us appear in WoE. Before that, WoE was a joke. Influence would take it, then Good Soup would retake it, repeat, until Seek and Destroy comes in at 50 seconds remaining.

In those seven weeks, we did nothing but recruit, gear our members and find active people suitable for the guild.

I don't bother recruiting or interviewing "pros" or "veterans", they tend to be guild hoppers. If you see any in the guild, they were friends that i could trust.

Most of our reliable players in the guild right now weren't even 255 when they were recruited, and had no donation items.

We prepared thousands of donation coupons before the guild was even created. We went over roles thoroughly, until every single member knew what to do on May 3rd, our first WoE. If they needed items, we would help them. Since then, we've held the castle increasingly steadily.

All i've seen from the invading guilds is one or two sinx's leading, with 95% of the rest being meat shields. The guild leaders haven't bothered to gear them with anything, not even skolls. They use their guild mates as a shield and abandon them for a shot at the emperium. You're better off one manning like Drax2 does.

You're not going to win a serious WoE without proper organization and coordination, something the spontaneous and blind rushes never had. Teamwork doesn't happen overnight.

Another guild will appear in the WoE scene soon to contest the castle, when they do, things will be different; there will be no room for solo'ers.

[Genesis]

Team One had some VERY Good people and quite a few too.

[kuoch]

mmmm,

genesis, maybe you just try to put more castle and see what happens, also to see who woe, and how well it goes.

so, just see how it goess and how it works out.

and yur can figure out what to do later on w.o.e

till thenn, ZENYY PLOXXX ;]

[Sensation]

Less discussing about how to play War of Emperium.

This topic is made to give YOUR reason to WoE, not why the current guild holding the castle seems invincible (which they totally aren't).

Their defense has MANY flaws, I pointed those out to several people and they ignored my advise, their choice.

A good 3 man team would be enough to totally ruin the defense Limitless currently has, it's about HOW you do it, what you use, who you aim for first and it requires TEAMWORK.

Being rich isn't enough, no single man could beat the world, animated or in real life.

Just a name could fear people, or make them willing to join (remember Mythology pre-rollback), or Limitless as a solo artist in the sadistic guild having fun taking a whole defense out alone and give other guilds the chance to take the castle.

People panic, when it's chaos it's the right time to strike.

Arogant attitudes makes people fail, no one or barely anyone is willing to fuse with other guilds.

Selfish is another thing that roams on this server, as Limitless stated before, he and his guild geared up theirselves and their new members.

Something that barely happens in any other guild, people don't want to MvP or hunt Berries anymore, that's for the 'noobs' so you guys can buy it (again selfish).

A TEAM helps eachother and needs eachother, you failed once, try again.

Practise is the key to succes, analyse your mistakes, analyse your enemies way of thinking, fighting and retreating,

that way you will see the light, that one thing that gives YOU an edge in the heat of the fight.

What would make WoE better?

Less arogant people, more teamwork and less whining.

[limitless]

He's right, our defense is terrible.

Anyways, when there's a need, people will evolve to succeed it. Making WoE drops a necessity is one way to trigger it.

[Terminus]

Create a day where we create the teams for WoE. As in, GMs pick a team they WoE with and another GM picks a team. It can be any guilds with any people chosen, making it a fair team. Which also encourages n00bs to try and WoE. However, this could be done as an event, not as an actual WoE. However, I think this would be fun for a change D:

[Sensation]

Create a day where we create the teams for WoE. As in, GMs pick a team they WoE with and another GM picks a team. It can be any guilds with any people chosen, making it a fair team. Which also encourages n00bs to try and WoE. However, this could be done as an event, not as an actual WoE. However, I think this would be fun for a change D:

What about Team LMS?

Same thing, just no emperium.

[Arcane]

Non-donation WoE. LOL

[L2Aim]

WoE needs people who aren't afraid of a challenge.

The challenge is called; defeating Limitless (guild).

More people who are prepared to become one guild, too much small guilds roaming around.

Most of us can speak english, so communication is possible.

If you communicate well, it saves you 50% of the work.

Fuse together, become one and overthrow the current castle holder.

Hunt, gear-up and support eachother, that's how it should be done.

[kuoch]

lol, i support arcana idea!!

ill woe for non donation anyday ;]

[Terminus]

What about Team LMS?

Same thing, just no emperium.

Thats my point.

Non-donation WoE. LOL

Yes.

[Damascus]

Thats my point.

Yes.

No.