L I N K Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 Currently, my clown gets pommeled by sinx, even though I can JT them 3 cells back they get there can I can't ygg fast enough while they are doing their EDPed 60k dmg. They all need a restriction, like, not able to use STR belts/1 FBH only/ stuff like that....with xxx+140 STR + 400% dmg, that's already good enough....
geldaz Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 Yeah right. Let's see, SinX to get nerfed? Not all classes we're meant to beat other. Example, SinX can kill alot of classes,but Paladin was made in the reason of beeing able to kill SinX,and so on. Next thing I expect to hear his not beeing able to use a elemental while EDP'ed,since it's ''Enchant Deadly POISON'' and using a wind element convertor would break it. Handle with it. There's many ways to counter DamageWhore SinX like myself.
Emy Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 SinX are very powerful. I don`t think they should be be nerfed, but I do know that they can rape :D though I`d like to note, I hate EDP whoring, cuz on my previous server that`s all a sinx would do. Yay you can press two buttons lol. I really don`t know sinx here that well. I hope they do a bit more than that =_=
Damascus Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 Here are my tips: Reflect and Return Damage. Give Clowns and such a much HIGHER HP boost than what they already own. Assassin Crosses would then have a real challenge.
Genesis Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 The Assassin Cross Job has some pretty bad disadvantages to it; one of them being the fact that you can reveal where they are so quickly; Lets keep in mind said class was made for quick bursts of attacks.
Terroryst Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 SinX are very powerful. I don`t think they should be be nerfed, but I do know that they can rape :D though I`d like to note, I hate EDP whoring, cuz on my previous server that`s all a sinx would do. Yay you can press two buttons lol. I really don`t know sinx here that well. I hope they do a bit more than that =_= Uhh, I think there's more to being a sinx than clicking 2 buttons. You still have to have the right build and equips. Sure there's the damage whore sinx's that us 2 FBH, str belts possibly, 300 str or whatsoever. But that's the basic total offense build, but there seems to be no defense in it, so they might use more berries than the dude with KE + FBH and single dagger with usakoring. SinX don't need to be nerfed, although I might be saying this simply because I am a sinx.
Count Jinto Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 I've seen this tipe of thread befor on a couple of other server about sinx. There are lots of ways to counter them. So try using a char that you can have a better chance.
Damascus Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 I've seen this tipe of thread befor on a couple of other server about sinx. There are lots of ways to counter them. So try using a char that you can have a better chance. He just made the biggest point ever. But the only issue is that some people wanna play a weaker class since those apparently are REALLY fun.
Count Jinto Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 Just like if I'm in pvp with a HP and I complain that I keep getting killed. ROFL
Count Jinto Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 I had a HP on one server and I was one of the most hunted person there. Just because it was hard to kill and it pissed them off because I had no mvp or mini boss cards on it. It was quit funny.
LordAbsinth Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 Currently, my clown gets pommeled by sinx, even though I can JT them 3 cells back they get there can I can't ygg fast enough while they are doing their EDPed 60k dmg. They all need a restriction, like, not able to use STR belts/1 FBH only/ stuff like that....with xxx+140 STR + 400% dmg, that's already good enough.... sorry for the stupid question, but, why u talks about FBH into a AGI\STR SinX? Oo if them are using belts or don't have enough INT the FBHs are quite useless (or at least, not 100% useful),,, Oo or there's something i don't know? Oo LordAbsinth
Terroryst Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 sorry for the stupid question, but, why u talks about FBH into a AGI\STR SinX? Oo if them are using belts or don't have enough INT the FBHs are quite useless (or at least, not 100% useful),,, Oo or there's something i don't know? Oo LordAbsinth You don't need any int if you're using a full forsaken set, you'll get at least 200 SP from the forsaken cloak. @Mike - That is so true... Lololol.
Emy Posted May 9, 2008 Report Posted May 9, 2008 Oh I'm very aware that a lot of ppl play sinx well and not just with breaker :) I also have a counter for the class. Hey I don't pvp too often because I'm in the process of getting better gears. @Dama every class is good against something and is weak against something. No such thing as weaker classes, they only appear weak. Tho on a low rate I'd say creator is a good all around pvp class. On a High Rate you have more choice. Then again with GTB, HW have a great disadvantage; tho it seems they hunt yggs well.
GodspeedXIII Posted May 10, 2008 Report Posted May 10, 2008 I don't know if a RANDGRIS CARD would have chances to remove EDP. Nonetheless, in many class guides it is recommended to get sinX out of melee range: BB, Charge Arrow/well-placed Ankle Snare, JT(+ staff of piercing in case of GTB), cart rev(followed by cart term and before the damage starts to connect again, cart rev), Palm push strike/Stop Blade and for you HPs always have Angeling+Aspersio trick. But yeah, if they have stone buckler/RSX, you're doomed.
Terroryst Posted May 10, 2008 Report Posted May 10, 2008 I don't know if a RANDGRIS CARD would have chances to remove EDP. Nonetheless, in many class guides it is recommended to get sinX out of melee range: BB, Charge Arrow/well-placed Ankle Snare, JT(+ staff of piercing in case of GTB), cart rev(followed by cart term and before the damage starts to connect again, cart rev), Palm push strike/Stop Blade and for you HPs always have Angeling+Aspersio trick. But yeah, if they have stone buckler/RSX, you're doomed. I guess you're doomed against me then. Lawl.
Pinkness Posted May 10, 2008 Report Posted May 10, 2008 Well if you cant beat them, then just make a sinx =P
Damascus Posted May 10, 2008 Report Posted May 10, 2008 Stone Curse owns the server... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah !!!1 I don't think we should make the immunity only through WoE. I mean, I don't fucking WoE. How the shit could I get the card? If I don't have GTB, Stone Curse will kill me, if I don't have Cranial, Throw Spirit Sphere would kill me, if I have Devilings, Throw Spirit Sphere would kill me, if I don't have Devilings, Asura would kill me. What gives?
Terminus Posted May 10, 2008 Report Posted May 10, 2008 Currently, my clown gets pommeled by sinx, even though I can JT them 3 cells back they get there can I can't ygg fast enough while they are doing their EDPed 60k dmg. They all need a restriction, like, not able to use STR belts/1 FBH only/ stuff like that....with xxx+140 STR + 400% dmg, that's already good enough.... Assassin Crosses do not need Str Belts or FBHs, I didn't use either of them. Everyone here is just a Strength whore.
L I N K Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Posted May 10, 2008 I liked th idea of giving clowns more HP, with 200 total VIT, Tao, and 2 Antique firelock, and with that I still have 152k hp... And why does Elite guitar onl give 8 DEX, make it 9, so instead of everyone running around with 300 + 189, it's 300 + 190. wich will make 2.9k attack go to 3.1k attack?, if i'm lucky.
Clasian Posted May 10, 2008 Report Posted May 10, 2008 Dispell removes EDP, and any buffs, but then again...If you think of it this way, SinX are the only class Genesis will probably not add a HP modifier on to their already low hitpoints. Daggers, do 75% to medium enemies. Genesis stated that players are considered medium on this server. So its already been evened out. Maybe you should just change your strategies. Assassin Crosses should always be taken seriously. If you want to rant about it, why don't we just say, shorten up the range of ranged classes, nerf the Assassin Cross Card. Well one answer. If you have problems against a class that has been balanced, then...don't play. Just like this idiot in PvP saying FCP is unfair.
Damascus Posted May 10, 2008 Report Posted May 10, 2008 Dispell does not Dispell; Soul Linkers, Enchant DEADLY Poison, Full Chemical Protection or any Chemical Protection based skills.