Dave Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Posted April 28, 2008 If you look at it now, I think its everyone's game already. You'll never know who's gonna win unless you're good at character switching. With the Magic Classes joining the roster, you finally have every option available to you instead of just relying on the usually-played classes. Like in rock paper scissors, you now had scissors other than your usual rock and paper ;) This is infact not true most damage classes can kill a magic class in under 2 seconds,magic classes do not have the ability as it is now to beat the high damage classes,and all GTB does atm is give them immunity to other magic classes. The other classes use GTB because they know that they get easy kills from magic classes with it knowing they cant get hurt,making GTB a magic only class card levels the field wizards can actually fight back and have a chance to win.
Dave Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Posted April 28, 2008 No cards can block coma. As i said in my post...
GodspeedXIII Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 Reflect your idea from a different point of view, Dave. Imagine a GTB-less server where wizards can run amok and SG/LoV anyone till death at will. Yes, we are giving wizards chances, but no, we are not going to sacrifice something major from all other classes. As I said the issue is that the GTB with current effect is too abundant and therefore too much people are immune to magic, and we are going to tone down that immunity to suit how availible these cards are. And wizards are being obliterated because the damage output of any class in general outgrew wizard's low final mHP I suppose we should discuss about this later. As it is now, a selected number of wizards with special cards and equips can already counter GTBs. Like a few selected ninjas can do 999999 final strike or SinX with 35k+ crit. I want to see when this particular piercing card gets widespread. Still I stand on my arguments about the new card negating MDEF making them go to waste AND about letting virtually ALL wizards to stand a chance against GTBs while some(the new card) can do better than others. note: those two are separate ideas...
~RyuShin~ Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 how about Quest the GTB card to make it perfect? XD
Dave Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Posted April 28, 2008 You mean like, sin-x ,pally champs,snipers,creators do now? Im sorry i disagree that giving wizzies a chance to fight back is wrong,you say imagine a server where wizards run amok,well guess what its like that now only its not the magic class that is doing it. I also don't see it as sacrificing something major from other classes i see it more as giving the magic class more balance to kill these other classes as i said before there are cards and equips that counter magic,there are also skills that can too,not fully i agree but at least the other classes will have a chance,not like the magic class has now. Anyway all this is Mute,because i cant see anything happening that will change this,the decision to add a new card has been made,dispite the fact imo it will change nothing and make wizards even worse off than they are now. There are to many people with other classes that will always disagree about magic classes gaining to much power,mostly because these classes have it already and dont want to lose it.
GodspeedXIII Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 Giving chances for wizzies to fight back is RIGHT. Now that I have corrected that, I have no further arguments, your honor. ^^ I'll let the others to decide now.
Genesis Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 Wizards are given a small advantage with this GTB change nothing huge; may I remind you there is such a thing as Maya card and its even possible to obtain 100% Magic Reflect.
Dave Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Posted April 29, 2008 How does this change give wizards a small advantage? Nothing has changed GTB still blocks magic,the only thing that has changed is the fact that now other classes are protected from Coma and Stone curse,i cant see that bieng an advantage to magic classes,if anything its more of a disadvantage as now they cant use there SC skill either. This change and new card wont benefit magic classes for sometime to come and untill the new card is widespread enough magic classes are still going to be in the same position they were in before the GTB change,and when the new card does become so widespread your going to have the same problem all over again as the other classes will moan there getting a raw deal because they cant block magic anymore. So it will be a case of adding somthing else to counter that. Also you mention the maya card and 100% reflect it cant be so usefull if it was all the other classes would use it in favour of GTB,oh srry i forgot if they did that they would have to alter there donator build and we cant have that.
Genesis Posted April 29, 2008 Report Posted April 29, 2008 GTB has not been changed because the edit has not been applied; it was not working when we tried. They would need to alter their items as Maya card only blocks 50% you need a combination of cards/equips in order to obtain 100% reflect; you do not realize doing this change will give the magic class a CHANCE a chance they did not have before.
nnnitsuj Posted April 29, 2008 Report Posted April 29, 2008 Dave you arent looking at the big picture. Gtb wont block magic fully. Its reducing magic damage my 10%, read the description again. And GTB has ALWAYS blocked coma and SC. And the new card is gonna help caster classes, and if you dont believe so, wait till it comes out, and many people will show you. Including me.
Dave Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Posted April 29, 2008 Dave you arent looking at the big picture. Gtb wont block magic fully. Its reducing magic damage my 10%, read the description again. And GTB has ALWAYS blocked coma and SC. And the new card is gonna help caster classes, and if you dont believe so, wait till it comes out, and many people will show you. Including me. Well, i think you need to read what the card will do or what they said it will do after the change,it will still block magic (99Mdef)unless you get the new card(ignore all Mdef eccept INT Mdef,meaning all the equips and items that add Mdef will be of no use)this to me is silly it penalizes those that dont have GTB but get attacked by someone with the new card,but the damage they do to you will be reduced by 10%,Immunity to Coma and Stone Curse. As for GTB blocking coma,i have still been effected by coma with GTB on other servers,i have never had coma/sc on here so i cant say,but i certainly did get coma while i had it on the other servers i played including the official one,SC as far as i know wasnt blocked by GTB or should i say should'nt have been,no status effects should be blocked by GTB, it was not intended to do that only to block magic,not status effects added by weapons,items,cards,doing so would make the card to overpowered with no counter to it at least thats what it is on the official server they would'nt make a card that made all the other cards they had totaly useless bad buisness for a PTP server,those extra's if it does that now were added because the population of this server got fed up with bieng coma and SC so they moaned about it till something was done.
