NERFING

[onetwothree]

and cookie please don't accuse my pally friend for using hax. let us all see how fast you spam your skills and use pots at the same time LIVE then you can start talking shit

[c0okiee]

Just now, onetwothree said:

oh god. please go to ratemyserver and fkin read all the cards effects and sg skills. 

any class surviving? YES.

Pallies can kill sg's easily.

Taekwon's can outsmart SG's.

Creators can outsmart SG's too.

LK's can also easily kill SG's.

 

and you're saying you know so much. again, get a grip.

 

true and true and true i dont know much about the class all i know is ur hatred + kihop no one can survive so please stop shitting on my lawn ffs

Ninjas can be countered by 

WS-Cart Ram

Clown/gypsy- that unchained serenade thing

Pally- Gloria domina

Sinx-meteor skill 

But why are ppl asking for a balance including u lol caz its hard as shit to handle 

[onetwothree]

Im sorry but did I ever ask for a ninja balance in any of my posts? read again please..

[c0okiee]

Just now, onetwothree said:

and cookie please don't accuse my pally friend for using hax. let us all see how fast you spam your skills and use pots at the same time LIVE then you can start talking shit

ok tell him to get on his bio  or sinx and ill get on my ws? lets do it live right now accept my challenge lets go

im not fighting a pally lol thats just insane

and rule is No Gtb im a caster so need him to take dmg full

[c0okiee]

1 minute ago, onetwothree said:

Im sorry but did I ever ask for a ninja balance in any of my posts? read again please..

u or ur friend mentioned it in a post here considering all ur friends posts are edited hes the culprit lol my bad for mistaking u for him

 

[onetwothree]

15 hours ago, c0okiee said:

ok tell him to get on his bio  or sinx and ill get on my ws? lets do it live right now accept my challenge lets go

im not fighting a pally lol thats just insane

and rule is No Gtb im a caster so need him to take dmg full

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Cookie youre even mixing people up. LOL who the hell is the sinx and the bio? 

[c0okiee]

u guys really wanna choke me dont u lol can we chat in game this is a pointless waste of a topic page i feel

[c0okiee]

that counts guy ur friend o nvm lol

[Yatogami]

2 hours ago, Yatogami said:

*coughs* r1p GS guardian *coughs* *coughs*

Imma quote myself here, I mean to say Gunslinger :D

[onetwothree]

nah it's cool. this is a healthy argument. I'm just trying to help you realize that nerfing is destructive. And you're greatly involved because you're pretty vocal about it.

there are rings being sold for 800 , donated weapons for 400. instead of nerfing and destroying the market, why cant it be buffed and help the market thrive again.

[c0okiee]

u dont seem to get it when stuff gets cheaper its nothing to do with the class being weak or anything its peoples demand for that item simple as that i play ws all the time and my set is worth like less then 2k right now but i still play the class lol i made/bought that set way back for like 4k lol

dude how do i make u understand developing class rings or weps(sg,pally or any g rings infact) etc are atm really extraordinary they are still in need of some correction/ballance/adjustment/change etc so im just trying to suggest what can be changed if anything. U make a ring which has never been fully seen and tested  and i agree class is fun and stuff but look at it from our point of view too or atleast try because i look at it from ur point of view too all im asking is the decency to do the same. Ur dmg is too damn high plain and simple

and yea its fine i dun mind the argument lol but u guys are acusing me of hax . If it makes u feel better record me during any time anywer when im playing fild/woe wotever u wish and report me i dun mind at all 
i havent accused u guys of the same  till u accused me...neither do i care caz for me its on principle lol i dun have fun in the game if i cant die lol and i wldnt care if u do it honestly

Edited October 26, 2016 by c0okiee

[onetwothree]

16 hours ago, c0okiee said:

u dont seem to get it when stuff gets cheaper its nothing to do with the class being weak or anything its peoples demand for that item simple as that i play ws all the time and my set is worth like less then 2k right now but i still play the class lol i made/bought that set way back for like 4k lol

dude how do i make u understand developing class rings or weps(sg,pally or any g rings infact) etc are atm really extraordinary they are still in need of some correction/ballance/adjustment/change etc so im just trying to suggest what can be changed if anything. U make a ring which has never been fully seen and tested  and i agree class is fun and stuff but look at it from our point of view too or atleast try because i look at it from ur point of view too all im asking is the decency to do the same. Ur dmg is too damn high plain and simple

and yea its fine i dun mind the argument lol but u guys are acusing me of hax . If it makes u feel better record me during any time anywer when im playing fild/woe wotever u wish and report me i dun mind at all 
i havent accused u guys of the same  till u accused me...neither do i care caz for me its on principle lol i dun have fun in the game if i cant die lol and i wldnt care if u do it honestly

 

 

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u dont seem to get it when stuff gets cheaper its nothing to do with the class being weak or anything its peoples demand for that item <--you're kidding right? nothing to do with the class being weak but people's demands? where do demands start in the first place? please. simple-->> Higher demand for strong builds and Lower demand for weak builds. sheesh. must you really point that out?

your WS set was 4k way back and now it's 2k why? because cart term damage is awful even with the mforger. the reason why youre owning with your WS is because of your Gring. let's not kid ourselves here.

U make a ring which has never been fully seen and tested  and i agree class is fun and stuff but look at it from our point of view too or atleast try because i look at it from ur point of view too all im asking is the decency to do the same. Ur dmg is too damn high plain and simple : are you really that self-absorbed as to think that you're the only rational person here?  you really think I havent dared look at it in your point of view?  you can spam your NV and I can die in what? 1 second? if you tell me I can simply use GTB, then I can tell you to simply full reflect. but you wont see me being arrogant telling everyone I DIE BECAUSE YOUR BUILD IS OP SCREW THIS ILL ASK FOR NERF.

 

and yea its fine i dun mind the argument lol but u guys are acusing me of hax . If it makes u feel better record me during any time anywer when im playing fild/woe wotever u wish and report me i dun mind at all  - please read everything you posted. you started the accusation. I was merely citing an example of more alarming things to report than nerfing.

l i dun have fun in the game if i cant die lol and i wldnt care if u do it honestly - ok live by this. and stop crying nerfs.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2016 by onetwothree

[c0okiee]

25 minutes ago, onetwothree said:

 

u dont seem to get it when stuff gets cheaper its nothing to do with the class being weak or anything its peoples demand for that item <--you're kidding right? nothing to do with the class being weak but demand? can you tell me a demand for a weak build? please. the demand is for the stronger builds that's and those builds remain the normal price. Higher demand for strong builds and Lower demand for weak builds. sheesh. must you really point that out?

your WS set was 4k way back and now it's 2k why? because cart term damage is awful even with the mforger. the reason why youre owning with your WS is because of your Gring. let's not kid ourselves here.

U make a ring which has never been fully seen and tested  and i agree class is fun and stuff but look at it from our point of view too or atleast try because i look at it from ur point of view too all im asking is the decency to do the same. Ur dmg is too damn high plain and simple : are you really that self-absorbed as to think that you're the only rational person here?  you really think I havent dared look at it in your point of view?  you can spam your NV and I can die in what? 1 second? if you tell me I can simply use GTB, then I can tell you to simply full reflect. 

 

and yea its fine i dun mind the argument lol but u guys are acusing me of hax . If it makes u feel better record me during any time anywer when im playing fild/woe wotever u wish and report me i dun mind at all  - please read everything you posted. you started the accusation. I was merely citing an example of more alarming things to report than nerfing.

l i dun have fun in the game if i cant die lol and i wldnt care if u do it honestly - ok live by this. and stop crying nerfs.

 

lol thats some deep stuff

1 dont question why i play WS lol i play both rings btw if ppl go gtb i use B ring to CT (who bloody cares its my items) and <3 ws ur out of point again

2.ive bought like 3 ws hammers like kitty claws few o.hels a lokis blade a like 2 freyrs lk blades like few other weps why? caz theyr cheap atm i still have demand for this stuff its still the same to me its just sucky to few players who think its not the same anymore its just least favoured stuff thats all but ok fine ill give in

3.uve accused me first dude lol check posts again uve accused me and my entire guild lol plz

4. go full reflect? ur shitting me lol id die faster then i used a CT or a napalm then but who cares lol the concern is dmg dude im not asking to make it completely unreliable im simply stating how i wld love not to die in 1 **** hit lol and dont say counter it lol i did counter u with angelring and made a video of it id still die if ur 2% counter kick procs

5.ur talking about my dmg and skills i was talking with respect to my sustainability and ur sustainability uve misunderstood me there ur hp is low but dmg is way higher compared to the risks u bear i wldnt survive u if i had max hp and assumptio , prolly i can keep changing armors but u dont seem to understand what im addressing ur 2% proc for counter kick wld kill me any armor i wear unless by the offchance it procs when ur on ghost element and im on neutral armor unless that situation im a 100% dead insta

6.dont deny u have a personal grudge against me for god knows what reason ever since sinx bash got reduced to lvl 5 bash like it always was mentioned

7.im not crying for nerfs im just suggesting change if it doesnt happen it doesnt happen im not gonna bother bout it later once decision is final im just making myself heard. Ive been telling u all along u can do the same make ur point dude so ppl can hear u too, i might be wrong/right who knows its for everyone to suggest lol

im Yolo anyway now lets stop wasting this topic space for some personal shit lol its really pointless

Edited October 26, 2016 by c0okiee
wrong section filled lol

[onetwothree]

Oh well. Go make a sg and ill counter it. Plain and simple.

 

[c0okiee]

no plz im happy with my ws ty <3

[Specter]

SG is FUCKING BROKEN 

Yes, it can get reflected, but classes are not meant to 1 hit players in the first place (*cough* ninja *cough*)

Stop QQing about nerfs, all the nerfs (A.K.A BALANCING) have been legit so far, you can't say bash sinx wasnt op when the damage was higher than a SONIC BLOW sinx, thats just stupid.

SG practically 1 hits anything that it gets hatred on, that's totally legit rite? But instead of making a fuss about it, i'll just go abuse this OP-ness next woe with some friends, until it gets nerfed.

Ninja's prob the next target.

Edit: Why didn't ninja get nerf with bash sinx? That's also a good question to take into account, if you check Suggestion forums there is a post about ninja from like a MONTH ago and most of the people agreed that FS ninja needs some balancing.

Edit n'2 : I'm not from warsong, IM FAR FROM IT, but stop t0k1n shet to cookie, he's not in the GM team, he's just very active in forums and if you guys didn't know, the most reasonable discussions are held IN FORUMS, not in game, so if you want to be read by fellow players and GMs, start being more active here, and stop bringing personal shit to a place were you are supposed to look for answers and discuss about things related to the server, if u wanna fight go to fild.

Edited October 26, 2016 by Specter

[onetwothree]

15 hours ago, Specter said:

SG is FUCKING BROKEN 

Yes, it can get reflected, but classes are not meant to 1 hit players in the first place (*cough* ninja *cough*)

Stop QQing about nerfs, all the nerfs (A.K.A BALANCING) have been legit so far, you can't say bash sinx wasnt op when the damage was higher than a SONIC BLOW sinx, thats just stupid.

SG practically 1 hits anything that it gets hatred on, that's totally legit rite? But instead of making a fuss about it, i'll just go abuse this OP-ness next woe with some friends, until it gets nerfed.

Ninja's prob the next target.

Edit: Why didn't ninja get nerf with bash sinx? That's also a good question to take into account, if you check Suggestion forums there is a post about ninja from like a MONTH ago and most of the people agreed that FS ninja needs some balancing.

Edit n'2 : I'm not from warsong, IM FAR FROM IT, but stop t0k1n shet to cookie, he's not in the GM team, he's just very active in forums and if you guys didn't know, the most reasonable discussions are held IN FORUMS, not in game, so if you want to be read by fellow players and GMs, start being more active here, and stop bringing personal shit to a place were you are supposed to look for answers and discuss about things related to the server, if u wanna fight go to fild.

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wtf are you talking about?  the only time it got personal was when cookie said my friend uses cheats. clearly this forum is one sided.

Yes, it can get reflected, but classes are not meant to 1 hit players in the first place (*cough* ninja *cough*) <--- 1 hit? REALLY?

DO YOU EVEN OWN A SG G SET? YOUR ARGUMENT CAN ONLY BE VALID IF YOU OWN ONE.

 

Stop QQing about nerfs, all the nerfs (A.K.A BALANCING) have been legit so far, you can't say bash sinx wasnt op when the damage was higher than a SONIC BLOW sinx, thats just stupid. <--- do you even listen? People spend REAL MONEY to get what they want. and just because a CLASS can outperform another class that doesnt mean it's BROKEN or it needs to get NERFED and if it is REALLY broken then have the decency to compensate for it. IF YOU DONT WANT PEOPLE GETTING ANNOYED BY THIS THEN HAVE BETA TESTERS USE THOSE THINGS FOR FREE. NOT TEST THEM OUT ON PEOPLE WHO PAYS REAL MONEY. 

 

TK Rankers are OP but you will just hear "OH THEY WORKED HARD TO BE RANKERS THEY DESERVE THE BONUSES"

sooo... SG's dont deserve the bonuses from hatred after working extra hard to get their equipments?
 

Alot of arguments can be made.- I'll stick with STOP NERFING and START BUFFING. 

thanks.

[c0okiee]

well dude Bass has literally said it all lol

look dude i completely agree with u buffing other classes may be good for this server. Ive waited 2 years for a SN ring TY FRO team for making that happen and after SN rings were made though my love for SN even i said it had to be nerfed from their 1000% dmg mamonite buff now its at 150 % i love playing that class regardless, after that nerf came u cld literally see everyone quit SN lol. But its still an amazing fun class to play they have their own perks and its now balanced even though id wish for higher pew pew mamo its still good lol

There isnt any challenge or fun doing excesive dmg and killing ur opponents in 1 burst lol wheres the challenge.

i can ask atleast 2-3 players with that ring to help us test that ring its not an issue why dont u just help us make a justifiable balance to it so it still stays strong that way .Last thing i or bass or anyone wants to do is make a class wev all been waiting for years to get a ring and buffs ruined lol. All wer asking for is to not get one shotted and u did that to my lk with 2-3 players in party w/o max kihop buff immagine it with a full party such pain.... amg 

Tk's dude ther tough but i can atleast throw a challenge vs them .sg with g ring its like im a sheep for slaughter u cld prolly even kill my SN with 600k hp 1 shot lol Bape did it allready XD

Edited October 26, 2016 by c0okiee
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[Specter]

1 hour ago, onetwothree said:

wtf are you talking about?  the only time it got personal was when cookie said my friend uses cheats. clearly this forum is one sided.

Yes, it can get reflected, but classes are not meant to 1 hit players in the first place (*cough* ninja *cough*) <--- 1 hit? REALLY?

DO YOU EVEN OWN A SG G SET? YOUR ARGUMENT CAN ONLY BE VALID IF YOU OWN ONE.

 

Stop QQing about nerfs, all the nerfs (A.K.A BALANCING) have been legit so far, you can't say bash sinx wasnt op when the damage was higher than a SONIC BLOW sinx, thats just stupid. <--- do you even listen? People spend REAL MONEY to get what they want. and just because a CLASS can outperform another class that doesnt mean it's BROKEN or it needs to get NERFED and if it is REALLY broken then have the decency to compensate for it. IF YOU DONT WANT PEOPLE GETTING ANNOYED BY THIS THEN HAVE BETA TESTERS USE THOSE THINGS FOR FREE. NOT TEST THEM OUT ON PEOPLE WHO PAYS REAL MONEY. 

 

TK Rankers are OP but you will just hear "OH THEY WORKED HARD TO BE RANKERS THEY DESERVE THE BONUSES"

sooo... SG's dont deserve the bonuses from hatred after working extra hard to get their equipments?
 

Alot of arguments can be made.- I'll stick with STOP NERFING and START BUFFING. 

thanks.

1- Yes i own a SG guardian ring.

2- The one who started the beef with cookie was you in this thread, and that was before he accussed your friend or w.e, the problem between you two doesn't really matter to me anyways, I'm just saying that the original idea of the post gets blurred by the shit talking.

3- Do you think I do not understand what it means to buy something and then have its price dropped? I own a sniper bless ring (price dropped 1k) prof cursed (price dropped 1k) LK bless set (freyrs blade is worth 500 tokens now), I've got exclusive and EXPENSIVE AS F0K donation hats that later on were obtainable for FREE in their legendary versions and the list continues, my point is, noone ever tells you that after you buy an item there's no room for buffs/nerfs, get over it dude. And I think you're the one not "listening", nerfing doesn't mean making a class completely useless, it means B A L A N C I N G. TK already got nerf'd and it's still playable, SG and ninja need the same treatment, I'm not mr. bad guy that wants people to waste their money, I prefer diversity when it comes to classes. But i still think SG and ninja are over the top at the moment, just like Tracking GS or the super novice mammonite before. If you want buffs instead of nerfs, and those buffs are made considering the current ninja/SG damage, then all classes will end up 1-2 hitting each other.

Edit: typo

2nd Edit: Also, I main LK, and its bowling bash spam got nerfed, spiral pierce spam got nerfed, and parry skill was removed... oh and I didnt QQ even once, cause i agreed with the nerf.

Edited October 26, 2016 by Specter

[onetwothree]

On 10/26/2016 at 0:39 PM, Specter said:

1- Yes i own a SG guardian ring.

2- The one who started the beef with cookie was you in this thread, and that was before he accussed your friend or w.e, the problem between you two doesn't really matter to me anyways, I'm just saying that the original idea of the post gets blurred by the shit talking.

3- Do you think I do not understand what it means to buy something and then have its price dropped? I own a sniper bless ring (price dropped 1k) prof cursed (price dropped 1k) LK bless set (freyrs blade is worth 500 tokens now), I've got exclusive and EXPENSIVE AS F0K donation hats that later on were obtainable for FREE in their legendary versions and the list continues, my point is, noone ever tells you that after you buy an item there's no room for buffs/nerfs, get over it dude. And I think you're the one not "listening", nerfing doesn't mean making a class completely useless, it means B A L A N C I N G. TK already got nerf'd and it's still playable, SG and ninja need the same treatment, I'm not mr. bad guy that wants people to waste their money, I prefer diversity when it comes to classes. But i still think SG and ninja are over the top at the moment, just like Tracking GS or the super novice mammonite before. If you want buffs instead of nerfs, and those buffs are made considering the current ninja/SG damage, then all classes will end up 1-2 hitting each other.

Edit: typo

2nd Edit: Also, I main LK, and its bowling bash spam got nerfed, spiral pierce spam got nerfed, and parry skill was removed... oh and I didnt QQ even once, cause i agreed with the nerf.

 

oh please. where's your sg ring? if you really have one youd be fully aware of the disadvantages -nuff said-

buffing just doesnt just mean having stronger damage. more lifepool can be a buff. more elemental resist can be a buff. think please.

again youre being one sided. the only time it was about cookie was when he commented that the term nerf is being biasedly used. 

problem with you folks is youre being too self-righteous and not thinking out of the box .  

[symphony37]

18 hours ago, Yatogami said:

*coughs* r1p GS guardian *coughs* *coughs*

Ahem ahem. RIP GS Guardian. Ahem

[Nas]

Wew such fite. 

My oppinion, dont "bash" me please !

:yes you can counter every job ingame while 1 on 1 pvping, like napalm with gtb or holy armor(since napalm is ghost ele),same trough sg can be counter with some switching, but yeah we aint facing 1on1 in WoE, you go holy armor, ninjas *cough cough* FS ur ass,drop dead. I'm assume This arguement all about nerf shit can be avoid if development-team tested it on test server and use their brain to thinking that damage is OverPower or no in legit duel or WoE before release it. We dont want samsung Note7 upgrades. You know what i mean.

*rip gs.g 2016-2016 x

 

Edited October 27, 2016 by Nas

[Yatogami]

1 minute ago, Nas said:

*rip gs.g 2016-2016 xD

 

*sobs* *sobs* but hey its still usable, it just needs a slight damage boost to make it viable again :D

[Nas]

Yeah! what your recieve more high than what you hit. Rip glass cannon

Edited October 27, 2016 by Nas

[p3wp3w]

Nerf Tarot Spam too. *coughs**chokes while eating popcorn*