crisza1220 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 Yeung's Suggestion regarding in the changes of effect of weapon of MATK Stalker (Sword) It would be great for all the MATK stalkers there like me... So I agree in the suggestion of Yeung that add another magic skill to the sword. o=One OR MORE of the following skills, being reasonable about them of course, would certainly help. --> Soul Breaker - Lightning Spear Of Ice - Acid Demonstation - Storm Gust - Meteor Storm - Jupital Thunder - Stone Curse - Mind Breaker (Yeah, mind breaker. ) - Crimson Fire Formation - Dragon Fire Formation - Falling Ice Pillar - Lightning Crash - Magic Crasher. Just like the weapon of Soul linker, Prof, Bio etc..... They have additional skill in their weapons... FCP + GTB = Dead Stalker.. I experiment a lot of build of MATK stalker... I know being a MATK stalker has a inevitable disadvantage in PVP.. All I want is a fair fight against people with FCP + GTB + GOOD EQUIPS (LOL) ... I know I can just dual log my Soul link.. and link my MATK stalker.. but it isnt just enough. linked stalker but it can only Strip ONE equip and easily countered.... I know im being greedy in regards to this topic.. BUT ALL WE WANT IS A WONDERFUL BALANCE PVP :)
sartorius19 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 So far Matk Stalk Is fine on Group Fights. But not on a 1v1 Situation. Matk is Indeed Expensive to build to be effective. You need to get Hod or Aog for 1v1 Situations. And Kafra Band for group fight(not that necessary but helps alot). Stalkers can already copy almost all other job's skills. considering it has its own innate skills. Though so far as my experiment to counter Gtb and fcp are as follows: Considering having Aog for lvl 10 cold bolts+urds with siroma+buttaura and the set itself average bolts deals 8-10k. If enemy is on FCP and GTB. I tried to use martyr's which deals 15k max x5. Considering im on hi captain/fbh/tgtgtg+inca/2xtgk/ and having a total of 320k hp. including the stat modification. But Gr and Devs +gtb+fcp makes it low. I tried to use Double Strafe as well. AS it is already innate i copied tatami for extra defense. I deal 7-9k averagely with ship captain and Stalk SB. using VoteCape+aloevera can help as well for an additional damage which made my DS 10k+. considering enemy is on gtb and fcp. I Tried Using Acid Bomb as well but thing is 2 devs+gtb+gr/fcp makes it so low. But u can have a converter on ur inventory and tg+tg+inca+skel on ur dagger and try to melee the enemy which will yield around 4-7k per hit. like in the martyr's situation. I also used Stave Crasher, deals 13-18k considering in this build im at 12k matk. with ship captain it can deal more. Though i liked this one as less modification on equips. Conclusion is that stalker can be almost like all jobs. Thing is its half or even less effective than the original class. Being Matk Stalk is like being a wizard or prof or bio or matk ninja having more escape skills + divest. Thing is when ur on int type. u wont have high enough dex to strip people. 1
crisza1220 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Posted October 12, 2014 Bolts are alright :) I hope GMs will have some suprises for stalkers.. I really hope so... So far Matk Stalk Is fine on Group Fights. But not on a 1v1 Situation. Matk is Indeed Expensive to build to be effective. You need to get Hod or Aog for 1v1 Situations. And Kafra Band for group fight(not that necessary but helps alot). Stalkers can already copy almost all other job's skills. considering it has its own innate skills. Though so far as my experiment to counter Gtb and fcp are as follows: Considering having Aog for lvl 10 cold bolts+urds with siroma+buttaura and the set itself average bolts deals 8-10k. If enemy is on FCP and GTB. I tried to use martyr's which deals 15k max x5. Considering im on hi captain/fbh/tgtgtg+inca/2xtgk/ and having a total of 320k hp. including the stat modification. But Gr and Devs +gtb+fcp makes it low. I tried to use Double Strafe as well. AS it is already innate i copied tatami for extra defense. I deal 7-9k averagely with ship captain and Stalk SB. using VoteCape+aloevera can help as well for an additional damage which made my DS 10k+. considering enemy is on gtb and fcp. I Tried Using Acid Bomb as well but thing is 2 devs+gtb+gr/fcp makes it so low. But u can have a converter on ur inventory and tg+tg+inca+skel on ur dagger and try to melee the enemy which will yield around 4-7k per hit. like in the martyr's situation. I also used Stave Crasher, deals 13-18k considering in this build im at 12k matk. with ship captain it can deal more. Though i liked this one as less modification on equips. Conclusion is that stalker can be almost like all jobs. Thing is its half or even less effective than the original class. Being Matk Stalk is like being a wizard or prof or bio or matk ninja having more escape skills + divest. Thing is when ur on int type. u wont have high enough dex to strip people. What can you suggest on Stave Crasher type? I use Black Orient Sword... what cards should I put to have more effective SC?
crisza1220 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Posted October 12, 2014 Bolts are alright :) I hope GMs will have some suprises for stalkers.. I really hope so... What can you suggest on Stave Crasher type? I use Black Orient Sword... what cards should I put to have more effective SC? Well, my stalker strips well... I balance int and dex... it is really good :)
sartorius19 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 if u have enough dex already and have a hit of at least 450- 500 without using phreeoni. u can use inca+skel+tg+tg on weap. even if u balance dex with int. ull have to divest more than 2-3x before it can actually divest someone having 150 dex. and if u balance dex with int i doubt ur having enough hp to tank heavy attacks specially from a sinx or sniper. And in the case of bolts. It is alright because having hod or aog just to get bolts are not that worth it considering u can be frozen or stoned. But i couldnt agree on the skills uve mentioned as they are innate and unique skills of other classes. Considering u can already copy them. +mind breaker cant be used on urself as well. it only works for others as a support or to lower their magic def. though if its a magic type ur facing and u use mind breaker on him/her it will be risky. And no sense at all as they are all matk type. so gtb negates them anyways. so it will still go to the tests ive done to counter it. as to how we are going to make it more balanced in 1v1 fights, im still not sure on what to do or add atm. as Stalkers are already versatile as it is. Making it more buffed will not yield good results. But i do hope to give it a little more addition for the int side.
Rayray Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 I would rather just remove the ninja stone requirements to be honest.
crisza1220 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Posted October 12, 2014 if u have enough dex already and have a hit of at least 450- 500 without using phreeoni. u can use inca+skel+tg+tg on weap. even if u balance dex with int. ull have to divest more than 2-3x before it can actually divest someone having 150 dex. and if u balance dex with int i doubt ur having enough hp to tank heavy attacks specially from a sinx or sniper. And in the case of bolts. It is alright because having hod or aog just to get bolts are not that worth it considering u can be frozen or stoned. But i couldnt agree on the skills uve mentioned as they are innate and unique skills of other classes. Considering u can already copy them. +mind breaker cant be used on urself as well. it only works for others as a support or to lower their magic def. though if its a magic type ur facing and u use mind breaker on him/her it will be risky. And no sense at all as they are all matk type. so gtb negates them anyways. so it will still go to the tests ive done to counter it. as to how we are going to make it more balanced in 1v1 fights, im still not sure on what to do or add atm. as Stalkers are already versatile as it is. Making it more buffed will not yield good results. But i do hope to give it a little more addition for the int side. Yep, you're right.... I it will take 2-3 tries before you strip someone... I'll try it on my inca+skel+tg+tg on my sword... :D Can't afford HOG/AOG lol.... ahahaha :)
sartorius19 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 well, kamaitachi is good for int stalk if you dont have hod or aog. works like Fas but a magic attack. having piamette or kafra band will help too.
Rayray Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 well, kamaitachi is good for int stalk if you dont have hod or aog. works like Fas but a magic attack. having piamette or kafra band will help too. This is true, but also expect people to go attack you since you cannot aim kamaitachi to not hit other people. :D You can use the fire dragon formation as an alternative. Although I still prefer the stunlock capabilities of lightning spear of ice.
sartorius19 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 well its always a group fight where this kamaitachi works very well. But i do agree on the lightning spear though it wont hit as much damage as other skills would do. but yeah stun lock is awesome ! xD
Rayray Posted October 17, 2014 Report Posted October 17, 2014 well its always a group fight where this kamaitachi works very well. But i do agree on the lightning spear though it wont hit as much damage as other skills would do. but yeah stun lock is awesome ! xD All classes i play, i play kinda like my biochem, so most of them has either stunlock or forces people to remove their raydrics/skolls
