merongb Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 Clown cant spamm Valcon . . . I think its not fair, cus every job can spam skill with Kiel card. . . GM, need to make Clowb/gypsy able to spam skill... for Balancing the job. . no one want to have clown/Gypsy job because of this.... GM plz answer me 1
Shadi Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 With the way that the game mechanics work (and are supposed to work), there is a way for clowns/gypsies to spam at a decent rate. However it's quite hard to use and the last word I heard about it was that it's not allowed to be used. So, if you'd suggest a change to kiel cards/reduce hard delay for clowns I'd definitely support it. Cause I share the opinion that clowns and gypsies can't do much more than spamming tarot with the current spamrate of arrow vulcan. Even GTB users survive the maximum burst of AV's which is 3 and very very very rarely 4 while being stunlocked and with low ping.
Rayray Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) I can spam fine without using "that mechanic of clowns" Brian mentioned here. Although I have to do this: Spam AV 3x >> use attention concentrate >> walk >> spam again. All that does is kinda cancel some frames to make you spam a little bit faster. However, I will disagree if you want to spam Arrow Vulcan continuously and endlessly. And as clowns are like champs that are kinda ping related class(if you got a really, REALLY good ping, you can spam AV with little problems) I don't really know what we can do to it. Edited August 2, 2013 by Rayray
Shadi Posted August 2, 2013 Report Posted August 2, 2013 It's not a mechanic of clowns. A lot of classes use the same mechanic but are unaware of it. To give you a few examples : 1 : Zen. Zen cancels the fury sprite, Zen cancels the FO sprite. Cancelling the sprite is exactly what you do with the clown trick 2 : Falcon eyes. Falcon eyes cancels the arrow shower sprite and thus removes the delay. 3: Flying side kick/Mild wind. Both cancel the tumble sprite. Again, 3x av is not going to kill much. Av is slow. If you do 3 in a row you can easily see the hp drop down hit by hit instead of one burst which makes it insanely easy to ygg through. Compared to other skills (even on full damage gear) av does low damage, and at this current moment has a crap spamrate as well. It turns clowns into complete tarot modes as the damage will be too slow and too little to do much either way.
Rayray Posted August 3, 2013 Report Posted August 3, 2013 ^ i kinda know that frame stuff, the mechanic I mean there was the one that was supposed to be illegal now. My concern was, we should not lower the delay for it so much that multiple bursts of 3x AV or more can be chained.
