ArmyRemiX Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 Hi... Im from Qro- Quality Ragnarok online.... The Game Was Great.... About 2000+ people server rates 3k3k 5% card drop... Max atk speed 190 Everything was good and fair so many people came and stayed... i like this server but just like everyone else who like there own characters will leave... in my opinion this server wont get that many people because the creator is just to overpowered... sure the champ can pnuema but thats it... if the creator has gr and some good def he wont be able to kill him... its sad that 3-4 creators gang up and spam their acid demo... sad and just stupid... there is no point in making a LK SIN Sniper etc... i want to make all characters and try them all but whats the point if ACID DEMO BOOM 100k damage in 2-3 seconds... there is no point... qro had even on check... every class was fair to the max... shit you had priest with LoD or Bloody Knight fighting and owning.. here tho sadly there is no point with creator spamming his 1skill... just saying what i feel... maybe if i get lucky the Gm might nerf the creator so people can actually use other characters and have fun like its intended... instead they'll go to pvp ... a creator comes in and kills everyone? stupid...
Damascus Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 I kinda told Genesis about that crator shit already, Hope he thinks of the way to resolve it already n_n
lmpulse Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 Make creators work for their bombs, as in, remove the bombs from npc dealers and have creators farm the items needed to make them. That'll put a damper on trigger happy bomb spammers.
Damascus Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 Thats what I suggested to Genesis, long ago. That or add an EDP NPC then.
ArmyRemiX Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Posted September 20, 2007 Thats what I suggested to Genesis, long ago. That or add an EDP NPC then. doesnt matter... about the npc... they need to make what they did in qro creator was a char u used for PvM not PVp or Woe... Banish creators from PvP this server with its 195 Atk Speed And Hardly Any Delay is to much.. Creators can abuse to much
Damascus Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 Nah, banishing a class from something is retarded. If they remove the NPC then they would have to work for (or bot) for the AD craps, even if they spend it in seconds still, It's pretty fucking strong. Edit: HEY GENESIS If ya read this, better act quick before people start leaving, remember I told you? ;o;
Terminus Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 Hi... Im from Qro- Quality Ragnarok online.... The Game Was Great.... About 2000+ people server rates 3k3k 5% card drop... Max atk speed 190 Everything was good and fair so many people came and stayed... i like this server but just like everyone else who like there own characters will leave... in my opinion this server wont get that many people because the creator is just to overpowered... sure the champ can pnuema but thats it... if the creator has gr and some good def he wont be able to kill him... its sad that 3-4 creators gang up and spam their acid demo... sad and just stupid... there is no point in making a LK SIN Sniper etc... i want to make all characters and try them all but whats the point if ACID DEMO BOOM 100k damage in 2-3 seconds... there is no point... qro had even on check... every class was fair to the max... shit you had priest with LoD or Bloody Knight fighting and owning.. here tho sadly there is no point with creator spamming his 1skill... just saying what i feel... maybe if i get lucky the Gm might nerf the creator so people can actually use other characters and have fun like its intended... instead they'll go to pvp ... a creator comes in and kills everyone? stupid... Ever heard of FP or a Valkyrie Armor?
Damascus Posted September 20, 2007 Report Posted September 20, 2007 Ever heard of FP or a Valkyrie Armor? Who gives a fuck about that shit ArmyRemiX put down, My only worry is if people begin leaving the server because of it.
ArmyRemiX Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Posted September 20, 2007 Terminus.... not everyone wants to get that stupid armor... people SHOULDNT have to get it because if this server would Banish the creator all would be fine... Terminus i bet my life ur 1 of those creators who have a big ego meanwhile all u do is go and? umm.. and ACID DEMO LIKE A NOOB YOU ACID DEMO EVERYTHING *1sec my finger hurts from spamming acid demo* ok im back... man please... im saying this people this server is cool its new so it has flaws... people will not join a server where 1 class rules over everything... some people dont like making creators. if we fix these things people will come...
Terminus Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Terminus.... not everyone wants to get that stupid armor... people SHOULDNT have to get it because if this server would Banish the creator all would be fine... Terminus i bet my life ur 1 of those creators who have a big ego meanwhile all u do is go and? umm.. and ACID DEMO LIKE A NOOB YOU ACID DEMO EVERYTHING *1sec my finger hurts from spamming acid demo* ok im back... man please... im saying this people this server is cool its new so it has flaws... people will not join a server where 1 class rules over everything... some people dont like making creators. if we fix these things people will come... FYI. Valkyrie armor is basically the best Non-Donation armor in the game. I'm sure everyone wants it. If we Banish Creators, what about their support skills? There are a lot of ways to bypass the breaking process. You shouldn't banish a class or nerf a class just because of one stupid little problem. Heck, I got past it. umm... and I play Assassin Cross. Thanks. I don't use a Creator. Ask anyone. and I'm sure you're one of those people who falsely acuses people he doesn't know and classifies them as a creator. Then, apparently, you sir, don't know anything about me. This isn't q-RO. This will NEVER be q-RO. Please, I practically make this server unbalanced alone. I'm sure many agree that. Assassin Cross > All jobs. It's like that for most servers.
Damascus Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Uhm, from what I've been told, Terminus could probably be another class, maybe Champion or Paladin that plays only on weekends and have a creator only for vending shit. False degrading assumptions is worst than being one of those creators. Anyways, Banishing the Creators from the server would be gay, g - a - y. Bet your life, and give it to me instead, I'd gladly sell it on e-Bay. This server is cool and all like you said and yes it has some flaws. Ding, Winner you get what a cookie? Give the server some time and if you have a suggestion proof read it and make sure it's not drastic like "Banishing a whole class" or something. Since Terminus posted first than me since I was still typing before he posted I guess I'd go with the flow, Yes, Valkerye Armor IS the best non-Donation armor but along with it comes Elemental armors (don't forget 'em since they play a bigass role in survival), Assassin Cross rock my fucking socks but I'm still trying to resolve the issue of the NPCing of the Acid Demonstration shit. I told Genesis he should might as well add an Assassin Cross NPC that provides EDPs 'n shit cause from what I see, we'd lose a shit load of people because of the Alchemist NPC.
Terminus Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Uhm, from what I've been told, Terminus could probably be another class, maybe Champion or Paladin that plays only on weekdays and have a creator only for vending shit. False degrading assumptions is worst than being one of those creators. Anyways, Banishing the Creators from the server would be gay, g - a - y. Bet your life, and give it to me instead, I'd gladly sell it on e-Bay. This server is cool and all like you said and yes it has some flaws. Ding, Winner you get what a cookie? Give the server some time and if you have a suggestion proof read it and make sure it's not drastic like "Banishing a whole class" or something. I play on weekends.
Damascus Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 I'm trying to reply first than you so I'm typing so fast my ideas/typing don't seem to match up correctly. I editted the shit on the post I made that you corrected.
darkestdestiny Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Banishment fails. <------notice the period? Making this server more like qRO won't do anything to resolve this problem, it'll just piss off creator lovers. Besides, what'll you do when some sinX with ws card comes along? Ask for WS card to be dropped from the game? FP and Valkyrie Armor are the 2 best ways to deal with breakage. And I'm willing to bet that if you ask around, you'll get a ton of different ways to deal with the damage creators can dish out. And uh, lose the ellipses. :]
Genesis Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 AD ingredients prices will be quite a bit higher, which will make then less common do to the fact that they cost more.
Damascus Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 AD ingredients prices will be quite a bit higher, which will make then less common do to the fact that they cost more. Who gives a fuck people want the NPC out and about :) People could just hunt 'em like we hunt EDP shizz. Or make a monster as strong as Assassin Cross Eremes that drops ADs. If ya like the population so far, take better order into it Genesis, dude I want your server to prosper, trust me, people bitch about the smallest shit but changing some stuff could make a huge positive outcome.
Genesis Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 EDP = 1 Item, Lasts 2 minutes. AD = 2 items, lasts 1 second. Thats why we added the alchemist npc.
Damascus Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 EDP = 1 Item, Lasts 2 minutes. AD = 2 items, lasts 1 second. Thats why we added the alchemist npc. Alright dude, your choice. Just giving you my 2 cents- Either add the EDP one witht he price of 2 ADs, or Take any of those shizzs out and make monsters that drop AD shizz that are almost as strong as Eremes Guile.
Guest Tejh Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Thats rediculous. Either make the drop rates for the items necessary to make the bombs and acids more accessable or reduce the prices again. This is just limiting the people that want to have fun and experiment with Creators and enables the super rich to still go about their business of AD spamming. So you block an entire sub section of people because 1 person complains about AD? learn to block it. Get rid of your VIT. Farm Tao Gunka. Use Valk Armor. There are so many ways to get around it and yet you complain instead of finding these items out. You complain about balance. People defeat creators all the time. Ask them how they do it. Learn from people. Dont be a bitch and totally fuck every new creator up
Guest Tejh Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 I never said your opinion was wrong. Nor did I call you a noob. I suggested ways to get around it. But like a typical flamer, you try to retaliate back and use swear words to try to intimidate. How about you put together a logical argument. qRO was a shit server. I GM'ed there back when It was actually good. Now its turned to shit and people here have found a new way to do things. Either get with it or do something about it yourself but dont ruin the game for others -Clokworks / Patchworks
Irrelevant Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Now creators are the most abusive class in fkRO? Shesh, here I was thinking it was the champions? Or were it the sinx's? Or possibly, could it be that everyone just thinks that just because they can't defeat a certain class, that certain class is overpowered? Give me a break here buddies, even if you're not able to kill a certain class, that doesn't mean the whole fkRO population can't. Every class has it's disadvantages and actually, you can counter ANY possible class. Can't beat a creator, you say? Well, prior to starting whining about how powerful they are, analyze how could you go around their strong points. Ever noticed that AD's damage is based on it's target VIT? Interesting isn't it? If I had, for example, a sinx with 1-50 vit, I'd laugh at any creator. See? It took me 5 seconds to type an effective way to counter AD. Gee, it isn't so hard when you use your brains, huh?
Damascus Posted September 21, 2007 Report Posted September 21, 2007 Well, technically they are only abusive now because their items are avaliable for sales instead of them needed a proper hunt. Correction about the vit loss to defend from AD, If you lose vit you lose HP which makes you incredibly vulnerable to basically every other class, You farm Tao Gunka and use it you still won't have the rightful amount of HP + you'd be more vulnerable to Champions because you won't be able to use Ghostring and if you do you won't have enough HP to survive the asura. Valk armor is O.k but there would be needs for elemental armors to combat Snipers or people with Converters. I've found these items out or whatever as a matter of fact you probably don't have a half a fuck of experience I do with RO (I have no life yea nig what now?) private servers and as a matter of fact even iRO. There will be no fucking up if the NPC is taken out or prices are increased cause it'd get your motherfucking ass out of the PvP Room and hunting the shit you need to create AD bottles. Now banishing them or lowering the AD damage or altering it to not aim for Vitality IS fucking it up, but I never requested that now did I?
Damascus Posted September 22, 2007 Report Posted September 22, 2007 Deviling? Ghostring? Cranial? Deviling: Pros- Defense against Neutral Damage e.g AD, Asura, Sacrifice Cons- Weak against every other element | You could defend from the AD, but if they have Earth Spike scrolls or elemental weapons you're fucked. Ghostring: Pros- Defense against Neutral Damage e.g AD, Asura Sacrifice Cons- AD breaks armors/ if you get frozen you're fucked. Cranial: Pros- Reduce damage by DemiHumans by 30% Cons- Open to Magical Attacks from any incoming or outbound(distanced) enemies. If you use that exact combo, expect the creator to spam any magical shit, even by using a Fireblend. If you use Cranial and Ghostring then anything else on mant. Expect him to freeze/ AD you... In other words, to make a long post shorter, You'd be open to anything if you try to defend from that 1 thing. Along with learning your game comes applying some tests on it. If ADs weren't so common then the threat of Armor Breaking/Powerful Ice picklike damage won't be a neusance anymore.
DUnada Posted September 22, 2007 Report Posted September 22, 2007 I don't know who implemented magic scrolls. But they need to go jump off a cliff. Deviling: Use raydric instead of deviling GR: Get FP to protect equips Thara: Too bad for you, there's always gonna be someone to ruin it. EDIT: And we should increase delay of AD and increase the price of the bottles to around 800k Sorry, none of this will work. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED CUSTOM EQUIPS WITH 2 SLOTS. So you can use tao gunka and GR.
