Taekwon Ranker

[Forum~]

A simple suggestion. Reset Taekwon rankings every half year. Why? No one plays it and the ranks are too high for people to attempt it. A half year is a long time to have fun after reaching the taekwon ranks. Resetting it also allows a recycling of players who can enjoy this unique class. I know for obvious reasons, people who are already in the rankings will disapprove of this suggestion. However, I see nothing wrong with it since this is pretty much a dead class. It has a lot of potential if it was given the right balancing equipment and I think this will spice up our server.

Will add more if I think of any other reasons that benefit this suggestion.

(Might I even suggest that the administration develop and input a decent Valkyrie Taekwon weapon as well?)

Those who want to know the rankings right now, type "/taekwon". Every point is 100 kills of a random monster.

Edited August 15, 2011 by Forum~

[Xtopher]

Agreed.

The only people on that ladder that still actually play are Kittie and Drax. Both are semi-inactive and I never see them on TK.

That ladders like what... 3-4 years old?

Edited August 16, 2011 by Xtopher

[Veracity]

Assuming it hasn't been reset before, it'd be over 4 years old. /swt I think this would be a good idea though and I'm all in favor of it.

[nines]

Wrong. Easy to get on it. It took Mike only 3 days to get onto the list when he did it for my ranker. And no one uses ranker for the reason it sucks still atm. Once it gets a good weapon or a buff then people will go to rank.

If we reset the ranks then they just rank like 30 times and their on the list. Well nice time commitment. >> while others actually put time into theirs.

[Kittie]

I love playing my ranker - but I do have to say that beefing up the equipment available to them would increase the attractiveness in doing the ranking.

It took me about a week (an hour each day) to get into the ranks about 6 months ago so anyone can do it.

However, at this point there's no incentive to do it since its not a sserious class atm. I do disagree to this suggestion - if you think you want to play ranker then just do the ranking. 8/10 rankers no longer play so you can push em out. It should be something you commit to of course. Reseting it will just increase the unnattractiveness of playing one.

[Xtopher]

In my opinion the above posts are biased. People with characters currently on the ranking don't want it to be reset, obviously.

4 year running ranking? Get with the times. It needs to be reset. We're trying to create more opportunities for new people right? Here you go.

[Seraphine]

I love playing my ranker - but I do have to say that beefing up the equipment available to them would increase the attractiveness in doing the ranking.

It took me about a week (an hour each day) to get into the ranks about 6 months ago so anyone can do it.

However, at this point there's no incentive to do it since its not a sserious class atm. I do disagree to this suggestion - if you think you want to play ranker then just do the ranking. 8/10 rankers no longer play so you can push em out. It should be something you commit to of course. Reseting it will just increase the unnattractiveness of playing one.

How would resetting the ranks increase the unnattractiveness? It would probably do the exact opposite and increase the attractiveness. I really think it would be cool if there was prizes sorta dedicated to that where if you were top 1-3 in a month or every two weeks you would get a prize and every month it would reset. Something similar to the PvP Ladder.

[Veracity]

I think maybe every month or two would be good, 2 weeks seems like too short of a time. I like the idea a lot, we'd need suggestions on what exactly the prizes should be, though.

[Dudu]

Uhhh im with mi pr0 Kath, why would you want to reset that ladder if you could just rank for yourself. I saw the ladder and i think theres just 1 player that uses that TK still, so if you are in a hurry to Rank, then do it, you got no competition, plus, new players can do the same cuz like, rankin is like farming, takes hours, and you can even kill those mobs with the Wanderer set.

So imo, i disagree. It needs dedication, not a reset. RAmen.

Dudu.

Edit: @Veracity and Seraphine: You guys wanna get attraction to the TK classes? Buff them up and give them a Valk weapon, they dont need to get rewarded for "farming".

Edited August 22, 2011 by Dudu

[Kittie]

How would resetting the ranks increase the unnattractiveness? It would probably do the exact opposite and increase the attractiveness. I really think it would be cool if there was prizes sorta dedicated to that where if you were top 1-3 in a month or every two weeks you would get a prize and every month it would reset. Something similar to the PvP Ladder.

It would decrease the unattractiveness because you would have to rerank to make your taewkon a ranker when it resets.

when I play my ranker I like to just log on, get my equipment from storage and start PVPing again. I'd rather make the ranker class a class that takes commitment rather then something that people just make for two weeks and then never play again.

It's like if your main class is a Champion. Would you like it if every two weeks, or evey month, the server just decides to delete your character? Would you like to remake your Champion every month? Yes I'm sure it would be easy, but it's just not worth the hassle.

In the system we have now, I'm forced to do a mission every so often to get another point to make sure im in the top 10. It just becomes one of those joke classes that people try out because of boredom and then no longer play.

I'm still waiting for a new donation weapon for the ranker class since I see a lot of potential in the class. A new weapon would create a lot of incentive for players to do the ranking missions to become a ranker. That's what we really need.

BTW I'm typing on my iPad so excuse all the grammar errors...

Edited August 22, 2011 by Kittie

[nines]

Seriously. Like PooPoo said just give them weapons and stuff. I've been putting in suggestions for taekwons for a long long long ass time and none of them have gone through. Even if you didn't accept the full suggestion (since most of them were on big quest ideas) could still take the essence of the suggestion and make something out of it.

Taekwon Ranker - Neglected.

This Suggestion - Further Neglection for those who actually went to rank. and theirs about 3-4 of us who still play who have our people on the rank list.

[Kittie]

I think it's such a joke that the GMs that responded want to make the ranker class a competition to win some stupid "prizes". There's a ton of benefits to the class - enough to make it a great competitive PVP class. Especially in WOE and GVG where they can use the massive party count on one map to greatly increase their damage output.

Why are we in such a hurry to throw away any possibility of new weapons to beef up the class, and turn it into something similar to the PVP ladder. It's a class people choose to make and play - not something we should be turning into a contest for new wings or whatever. My god.

Edited August 22, 2011 by Kittie

[Dudu]

Amen. ^

Nines, ur a jew.

Like Kittie said, TK's are a veeery strong class if they get a nice party, problem is, in high rates like this, a simple TK with a 4slot book wont do shit. They need to get Buff'd up since like, i remember when i could see like 1 or 2 ninjas running around fcity ( Mello and Mike ) but now, with the new weps, theres over 9000 ninjas in all places. What if we give the TK a chance like we did to ninja? Nga plz.

Edited August 23, 2011 by Dudu

[Xtopher]

You guys are griping about the class. You want more people to play it? Sure, give them a valk weapon and reset the ladder.

More opportunities for new people... Why the hell should one ladder last 4 years?

btw: Can the top person even be kicked off the ladder? Don't they have too many points? And they probably don't even have the game installed anymore wtf.

In this thread: People either too lazy to reladder or people who never even laddered for themselves to begin with that just don't wanna lose it.

[nines]

If they want to play the class let em earn their rank. Hence why it's called ranking. If u want to be ranked u better dedicate. It isn't a ladder it's a rank list by who put most time in ffs. Idfc if some don't play some still do and they worked for it. As Kitty said doesn't take long. And chances are if ur on ro u got nothin better to do. So enjoy ur farming time lazy asses

[Kittie]

I don't believe I ever stated I wanted more people to play it. I said to those who want to play it - they should really express some dedication to the class. It's not just make one and play for one week, but it should be something they main along with another class or classes.

I'm not arguing to create new opportunities for new people. I'm arguing the current system is fine the way it is. I don't like how you turn my posts into a misinterpretation of me finding new ways for people to become rankers. I do believe that's your prerogative, not mine, so don't say "I don't understand how your idea helps more people play rankers" because in the end, that's not what I want.

Let me reiterate in a simpler way: If you want to play ranker, you better have a strong desire and commitment to make one, and then play one. Because I don't think it should become some class that people play for one week, and then delete to make room for another "joke" class - because with new weapons and buffs, it won't be a joke anymore.

That's how you increase the desire to make a Taekwon ranker - thus making the ranking process seem actually worth it. I don't understand how my point can become any clearer.

I think we all know this suggestion stems from simple curiosity combined with boredom: people are just yearning to try (KEY WORD TRY) ranker with no actual will to continue playing it. Let's face it - we've all done it. I've created and deleted and donated for multiple classes in the end to discard it and continue playing something more substantial - we've all done it. But I don't think the ranker ladder should change in any way since it'll just make the class into more of a joke.

What the class needs is custom equipment to bring it up to par, to thus increase the incentive to carry through several hours of ranking and farming, to be called a Ranker. That is the way this suggestion should go.

BTW: I am not relazy to ladder - if you want to reset it now just once and only once (and maybe again in another four years) but reladdering EVERY month? That's absurd. Like I said, let's just delete your Lord Knight class every month and have you remake it every month. Not worth the hassle.

[Xtopher]

Wrong. Easy to get on it. It took Mike only 3 days to get onto the list when he did it for my ranker.

If we reset the ranks then they just rank like 30 times and their on the list. Well nice time commitment. >> while others actually put time into theirs.

If they want to play the class let em earn their rank. Hence why it's called ranking. If u want to be ranked u better dedicate. It isn't a ladder it's a rank list by who put most time in ffs. Idfc if some don't play some still do and they worked for it. As Kitty said doesn't take long. And chances are if ur on ro u got nothin better to do. So enjoy ur farming time lazy asses

Uh, nines nothing you post here about laziness is relevant. You didn't even rank for yourself, you let someone else do it for you. This guy talks about dedication and putting time into something when he didn't even do it himself. I would take your posts seriously if Mike was posting them but not you.

I don't believe I ever stated I wanted more people to play it. I said to those who want to play it - they should really express some dedication to the class. It's not just make one and play for one week, but it should be something they main along with another class or classes.

I'm not arguing to create new opportunities for new people. I'm arguing the current system is fine the way it is. I don't like how you turn my posts into a misinterpretation of me finding new ways for people to become rankers. I do believe that's your prerogative, not mine, so don't say "I don't understand how your idea helps more people play rankers" because in the end, that's not what I want.

Let me reiterate in a simpler way: If you want to play ranker, you better have a strong desire and commitment to make one, and then play one. Because I don't think it should become some class that people play for one week, and then delete to make room for another "joke" class - because with new weapons and buffs, it won't be a joke anymore.

That's how you increase the desire to make a Taekwon ranker - thus making the ranking process seem actually worth it. I don't understand how my point can become any clearer.

I think we all know this suggestion stems from simple curiosity combined with boredom: people are just yearning to try (KEY WORD TRY) ranker with no actual will to continue playing it. Let's face it - we've all done it. I've created and deleted and donated for multiple classes in the end to discard it and continue playing something more substantial - we've all done it. But I don't think the ranker ladder should change in any way since it'll just make the class into more of a joke.

What the class needs is custom equipment to bring it up to par, to thus increase the incentive to carry through several hours of ranking and farming, to be called a Ranker. That is the way this suggestion should go.

BTW: I am not relazy to ladder - if you want to reset it now just once and only once (and maybe again in another four years) but reladdering EVERY month? That's absurd. Like I said, let's just delete your Lord Knight class every month and have you remake it every month. Not worth the hassle.

Kittie here is simply an elitist. The type of poison that will bring the server to its knees. People who want everything catered to experienced and richer players. I will join you in disagreeing about a one month reset. But a semi-annual or annual ranker reset would be fine in my opinion.

Also, no ones asking you to delete your character. Just asking you to re-rank again. If I had to kill a bunch of monsters every month on my LK to gain the slightest advantage in pvp you better BELIEVE I would do it.

You all talk of dedication. Wouldn't you agree that it in fact takes more dedication to rank once or twice a year if you want to hold the position than once for four years?

[nines]

So? who cares if some one else did it for me the fact is they still did it. your ignoring the whole arguement and just going on about me not doing it. no segways allowed ginga boi.

[supream]

reseting it every 6 months or yea isnt bad. i mean no one plays the same class for a year straight so thats ok to reset it after that time period.

[Kittie]

I don't see how elitism is related to this suggestion - new players can do the ranking to become a ranker. The points required to enter the top 10 still really haven't changed since I made mine almost a year ago.

When I made mine, I had to get like 95ish points to get number 10. That was almost a year ago. Now, I'm number 10 at 103. So I don't think you have to be an older member to become a ranker. The time spent on this server has no relation to the ease to become one.

Also, reranking is not as fast as you think. It does take time to do it - so I think when you think hypothetically about "killing a bunch of monsters" its really just talking the talk. You've never done the ranking and its repetitive. I don't think people want to be forced to get all those ranks over again once they've done it.

Ranking requires you to kill a specific monster 100 times for one point. This requires you to basically spam TK mission to get a desireable monster which can often take a while. And then warp to the best map for that monster and high jump around to find and kill em. It takes a lot of time and yggs. Is it easy? Sure! Is it worth the hassle the first time? Yes! But do I need to keep doing it every month or every sixth months? No.

I log onto my ranker on occasion - I still love playing it and its very versatile. So I don't think I want to redo it every so often. That's not elitism - its just plain and simple common sense. I really haven't seen the threshold for becoming a ranker to have increased in the last year so there is nothing different than ranking now, then in the past.

[Veracity]

We'll look into resetting the taekwon ranks this once, but it likely would not be reset regularly, if at all.

- Accepted -