HalfDemon Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) Sofar i know Valkyrie weapons supos to give the boost that some underpowred chars need. Some gives even to powerfull buffs Like Kitty Claws [4] gives you lowerdelay boost to use extra headgear card etc, howevery i think Champion Dorcus dont have enouph boost, it would be cool to give it ASPD& HP% boost , since champ is almost the only class that need to use 5 difrent stats for a good build, its annyoing to skill agi up and same time STR&INT for dealing DMG , and since its standard to use ladytanee card which takes 40% HP its cool if it will give a HP boost olso. Whats you think about it... Edited June 16, 2011 by HalfDemon
Seraphine Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 Champions can kill in 1-2 asuras along with that they can nerf ranged classes with pneuma and can run away using snap i really don't think they need an hp buff also their hp is not that bad at all.
kax Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 Champions can kill in 1-2 asuras along with that they can nerf ranged classes with pneuma and can run away using snap i really don't think they need an hp buff also their hp is not that bad at all.
Kittie Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 The boosts to the other weapons were to bring the other classes back into a balance that the higher rates of this server changes. It's not supposed to be even boosts across the board, just adequate adjustments to even up gameplay, whether that means no changes to one class or huge changes to another. 1
HalfDemon Posted June 16, 2011 Author Report Posted June 16, 2011 i still think its need a aspd boost, in the end its a godly weapon
Sorrow Posted June 16, 2011 Report Posted June 16, 2011 Champions always were and still are the server's most powerful/cheap class, i hate their guts, so yeah i don't think they deserve any kind of boost whatsoever in any aspect, form, shape or size. Sorry if my opinion seems biased but that comes out of my 2 years experience dealing with these around here. They can freely equip GTB to nullify magical damage, they can use Pneuma to avoid any sort of ranged damage, they can use Ruwatch to reveal clocking people, they can easily enough avoid contact for meelee damage with Sissy Step(i mean...Snap! xD), they can use Blessing, Increase and Decrease AGI, which are great buffs/debuff, they have an awesome damaging skill for range(TSS) and they got the game's strongest/most-broken-thanks-to-high-rate damaging skill to boot. The Dorcus is still the best weapon, even if wins the Elite Knuckle slightly, for the cheapest class in the game. Everyone likes to play as champs therefore the demand for the weapon still is high even if it isn't as ground breakingly awesome as some other valkyrie weapons are. Boosts via the items are given to classes that need them to get anywhere near descent(before the valkyrie weapons, stalkers were one of the most underated classes), and champs still have to face many nerfs to be considered balanced in my opinion. But i digress...unfortunately i'll have to disagree to the suggestion ^^" its nothing against anyone in particular...i just hate how broken this class is, that's all XD
supream Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 i always thought they needed a little more hp thats all
Ryuk Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with this suggestion. As others have explained the valk weapons were created to even out classes. Champions already were stronger than most classes. Due to these weapons they are now even. Though I agree some classes have risen above the champion class with their valk weapons I still don't think a boost to the champion class is necessary.
HalfDemon Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Posted June 20, 2011 I think Dorcus need a HP boost , to balace the hp lose with Tanee card
Ryuk Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 That's pretty much like saying everyone should get bonus SP because of fallen bishop hibram card. You choose to use lady tanee , the hp reduction is it's downside.
HalfDemon Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) Yea its true, but the thing is, as a champ you do less damage with a solo Fallenbishop card, its not like the card give you extra damage Adding the Tanne to the shoes let you have the effect of 1 fallenbishop in your shoes, disatvantage form that: it takes 2 slot shoes and drains 40% HP, i think its to much downside on that one. Reducing tanee hp nerf to like -20% or like how its done with other classes by boosted valk weapon to give Dorcus a HP boost will balance it mor Edited June 20, 2011 by HalfDemon
Seraphine Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 Giving champions more hp will make things unbalanced if you want more Hp then add more Vitality.
Veracity Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 People have already provided legitimate reasons why we won't do this. - Rejected -