Hades' Desperation Gun

[Weezing]

Hades' Desperation Gun [4].

+ 50% More Damage with Tracking.

+ 20% More Damage with Rapid Shower.

+ 20% HP

+ 35 Dexterity.

Indestructible.

1 Handed.

Leave ur comments/suggestions below.

Edited May 28, 2011 by Weezing

[Guest lolensue]

elite guns are fine as it is right now.

i suggest u suggest something else rather than guns, like shotguns, grenade launcher for a new type of gunslinger

[Ryuk]

I assume these would be 2 handed still ?

[Halion]

increase hp and desperado damage.

[Weezing]

elite guns are fine as it is right now.

i suggest u suggest something else rather than guns, like shotguns, grenade launcher for a new type of gunslinger

You have no clear idea of what the output damage of gs's is, if you believe Elite Guns are fine the way they are right now.

I assume these would be 2 handed still ?

My bad It's supposed to be 1h, just like Renter Gun. Edited May 28, 2011 by Weezing

[Guest lolensue]

i know the damage with incan/thana with those guns tho. but when its one handed, +redux on necro hood?

[Weezing]

Necro Hood isn't supposed to work with this, so no redux, the only thing that will work is the +10 stats and other random gs only effects.

[TensaZangetsu]

gun is fine, only think ill agree with is post number 2 from lolensue other then that DISAGREE!

[Weezing]

Elite Gun and Renter Gun are by no mean good, they do at most 12k desp with his pretty low, and is just a short range AoE Skill, hence why I'm buffing Rapid Shower and Tracking, from what the latter helps to do massive damage in 1 hit, Gs needs more hp aswell, as they need to add str in order to carry yggs, so yah this gun is much needed, and for the Grenade Launcher and Shotgun, I will need a [4] of that weapons to exist, to do a check of all their respectively skills, and do a proper weapon suggestion for that.

[Guest lolensue]

oh well, if nines reads this post hell be mad again because for him GS are OP with their damage and spam rate :3 oh well, +35 dexterity is much right? how about weight limit?

[Anarii]

On a related note, that's not really that bad. Desp damage isn't buffed and it's pretty much just a slightly better version of the rental wep. Don't see much wrong with it, the hp bonus won't stack well unless the gs has some hardcore vit.

Edited May 29, 2011 by Anarii

[Weezing]

And yah the 20% More HP Bonus, won't help that much as it is based from the original HP, thought it will help with something, so that's the reason why I posted it there.

Edited May 29, 2011 by Weezing

[Ryuk]

Elite Gun and Renter Gun are by no mean good, they do at most 12k desp with his pretty low

You might want to at least double that damage vs decent reductions (frigs+usa+sgw). Without thanatos that is you'd still do about 24-28k hits with insane spam. The reason why gunslingers have low HP is because their damage output is MASSIVE. I'm really not sure about this weapon X.x Edited May 30, 2011 by Ryuk

[Weezing]

^ It's not like this weapon is buffing desperado anyway, it's buffing the survability and their ranged skill damage, the only thing that would affect Desperado is the +15 dex difference from the Renter Gun.

Edited May 30, 2011 by Weezing

[Mint]

I like the idea and the stats seem fine to me. I was thinking that there could be pistols to increase desperado (Short-Range damage) by a small amount as the damage that Gunslingers do now is already decent. But also a Shotgun could be added? so that Gunslingers would have to switch weapons to change into 'Long-Range mode' so to speak... where Full-Buster could be used as an alternatetive to rapid shower.

[Ryuk]

Honestly, I'm not sure about the weapon. But I'd like to give it a try it seems very decent but I don't think it would be too OP. I guess I could agree to this :3. Edited May 30, 2011 by Ryuk

[Decode]

First of all I will try not to let my Love for Gunslingers get in the way of my opinion for this suggestion.

I consider that the way Desperado is now is ok, but, GS just don't have Desperado as only skill, there are many other and the way Weezing bring that up, really makes me want this.

Second is the HP, Gunslingers got this LOW HP that even with the add of 20% it will still be kind of low compared to other classes "Will not mention any class", as it has been explained before and will use what an old friend told me on an old suggestion once "20% of nothing is still nothing" which means that adding a 20%+ HP to gunslinger will bring the class HP from 200k to 220k at most.

So in general I will +1 this suggestion, because the GS class has been left behind and they need something to redeem them as the great class they are!

[Weezing]

I like the idea and the stats seem fine to me. I was thinking that there could be pistols to increase desperado (Short-Range damage) by a small amount as the damage that Gunslingers do now is already decent. But also a Shotgun could be added? so that Gunslingers would have to switch weapons to change into 'Long-Range mode' so to speak... where Full-Buster could be used as an alternatetive to rapid shower.

I was thinking about a shotgun aswell, but first I will need a [4] Shotgun to exist, to do proper damage testing.

[supream]

a big damage increase inst really needed for a gs. 3 keils spam can be faster damage then a prof bolting. a tiny one should be given.

[Weezing]

a big damage increase inst really needed for a gs. 3 keils spam can be faster damage then a prof bolting. a tiny one should be given.

The only boost Desperado gets from this weapon is +15 Dex when comparing it with the Renter Gun, so this is just a tiny one. Edited May 31, 2011 by Weezing

[Meka Meka]

Mmmm new gun sprite? :cool:

[SlingerzDeluxez]

I like the idea, but GS's are fine as it is, with the exception of HP. Honestly. And also, if you think 12k is the highest a GS can output with desp, you are by far wrong, unless they somehow got nerfed. I mean, when a shield is used against them, you are right. If there is no shield, you can do 24k, which is what I average, 21 ~ 24k. Though, I dont know how 1H would work. I +1 this. It may actually get me to start playing GS again.

[Weezing]

I like the idea, but GS's are fine as it is, with the exception of HP. Honestly. And also, if you think 12k is the highest a GS can output with desp, you are by far wrong, unless they somehow got nerfed. I mean, when a shield is used against them, you are right. If there is no shield, you can do 24k, which is what I average, 21 ~ 24k. Though, I dont know how 1H would work. I +1 this. It may actually get me to start playing GS again.

Ermm thanks I guess, lol.

[D.Vampire]

I agree with this, but the GM may not agree with this. -_-;

Players are always right. imo

[TensaZangetsu]

most gms are the players