Halion Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Now that ladder have changed, i suggest that the prize should change also, not a BIG change just double stuff like this. 1st Place: "Ladder Wings", 300 Yggdrasil Berry Tickets, 150 Yggdrasil Seed Tickets, 200 of each elemental converter. 2nd Place: 100 Yggdrasil Berry Tickets, 40 Bloody Branches 3rd Place: 50 Yggdrasil Berry Tickets and 20 Yggdrasil Seed Tickets. Any other suggestion? just critique dis!
HerLove Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 would not mind increased items but not bloody branches.
Halion Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Posted February 27, 2011 have in mind that the pvp ladder reset is now each 2 weeks so increasing the prize x2 or a high amount would be great.
nines Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Just because the time is increased doesn't really mean the amount of items your going to use is going to increase. And even if the amount of items would use would go up why would it even matter. Your laddering for a wing and its already been said the price of the wings is going to go up just because of the time increase. So why increase the prize given when your getting atleast 1k more tokens off winning. If anything the time increase will lower the amount of people going to ladder. The main days will be first day of ladder, after woe, after gvg, and maybe people trying to lour into pvp for kills. But its mostly going to be calm for a long ass time because of the time increase. Patience is a virtue. Not a reason to become a jew.
Nadtorious Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 I think they're fine but I hab doubt about 40 Bloody Branches :/ aint they too much .. (?)
kuoch Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 TAKE A DIRTY PICTURE FOR ME, TAKE A DIRTY PICTURE. Eh, I vote on the yggs actually. Everything else, idc.
Centurion Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Eh, I vote on the yggs actually. Everything else, idc.
Seraphine Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Irrelevant post. Please stay on topic.
sessions Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Patience is a virtue. Not a reason to become a jew.Yeah let's start being racist because you disagree with someone, that's a great way to do things. Anyway I agree with an increase in the yggs, since I'm guessing laddering for two weeks would take up more yggs than 1 week. Just a guess.
nines Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Because I disagree? im using racism as a simple point. not because I disagree.
HerLove Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 The increase in yggs only makes sense! Agreed! On a side note Because I disagree? im using racism as a simple point. not because I disagree. Can you do anything else than troll? We are in the 21st century boss racism is for those of lesser intelligence.
Veggie&Mac Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Increasing the yggs and seeds sounds really reasonable compared to "the week" for laddering. OT: Can you do anything else than troll? We are in the 21st century boss racism is for those of lesser intelligence. 21st Century is like hey... dont touch niggas and jews but Hate Latin people xD
Cirrus Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 I don't think the prize should be covering what you "spent" to actually win some 3k Token wings. It's more of the same bs everyone is expecting, if you win you get compensated for. The prize didn't say "go win me and I'll give you all your Yggs back, plus a shiny item!" That's my take on it. As nines said, without the racism people get so aggravated against (it wasn't even the BODY of his post jesus) it doesn't necessarily mean you'd spend double what you would in two weeks. But hey, what everyone agrees on. All people want is moar itam anyway, and Idrc.
kuoch Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 21st Century is like hey... dont touch niggas and jews but Hate Latin people xDAHA! Ohhh Dani, Dani, Dani..
Kayleigh Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Well this change to 2 weeks definitely screwed my laddering plans D: I work fulltime and I don't have much time on my hands to ladder for 2 weeks. So, I don't like this anyway. And aside from that I think there should be a better reward for it now. I don't care about how much berries/seeds were wasted for it or something. But 2 weeks of this stress (okay sometimes no one really bothers, but we've seen different -> drax/biel) and then no better prize than from when it was 1 week of ladder? In my opinion that's very demotivating. Yup, we get shiny wings and stuff, but we already got those before and not too many people tried laddering seriously. So I agree to this suggestion.
Rune Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 I'm inclined to agree, better prizes on Second and Third place might attract more people into trying the PvP ladder. Not to mention that with two weeks, double the expenses on comsumables. No alteration on the First Prize though, its already big enough profit as is.
nines Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Further reason for me to disagree. From what Im seeing in pvp is not so much of people devoing lexing and all that now like it was in the one week. But its more free pvp. like it used to be. Theres some people who suck ass and need a devo to even get on the top 5 but with pvp like how it used to be before when its going this is nicer. The week long expansion I didn't like it that much but now seeing how its already effecting the people who ladder. I like it. Theres no reason to change it again. By adding further bonuses to the ladder prize that will just encourage the rich to get richer " Oh no nines doing another jew quote " Already im seeing people try to ladder who usually dont. But ofc the other rich people hogging it etc etc. - Off Topic Section - Im actually kind of on board with that old topic on limiting on how many times you can ladder. Spoils the fun for a bunch of other people. I remember when I just started gearing up when I first came here and attempted to ladder. Every time I tryed to ladder it would always be the richer people with there gangs going and ruining it while I just went in there solo. This seriously pissed me off and was on the verge of quitting because of how it displays the people of the server " Jews " I know its not related to this topic but just putting it out there. I'd be down with a no party allowed pvp room for only ladder. Make it so the best actually win legit instead of relying on a devo. People could still voke and lex yah but the main person would still be killable. And 90% of the time the person laddering fucking sucks without there gang. And Chris. Racism is for those of lesser intelligence? Oh well im sorry. Im just out here putting logical views on this and using other methods to support those views. Instead of you guys just spouting out your crap that only supports your selves. You make suggestions and agree on them without thinking of anyone else. And yes I troll a lot want to know why? Because it's the only way to jam a point into thick headed people. As I have said many times before but obviously I'm not trolling hard enough if you guys still don't get it. So thank you I will try harder to be be more of a dick.
HerLove Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 The yggs should be increased I will agree with that simply because I laddered alot already and I know for a fact you use a lot of tickets doing so. Agree to more yggs being given for it! And to nines you are one of the thickheaded people you talk about so I will just try harder to ignore you.
Meka Meka Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) ...I'd be down with a no party allowed pvp room for only ladder... I tend to agree with this. I'm not a regular PVPer for some of the reasons nines stated (also I suck lol), but my main question is what is the true philosophy behind a pvp ladder in which individuals stand on each step, when they used a party to get there? Edited February 28, 2011 by Meka Meka
Halion Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Posted March 1, 2011 I don't think the prize should be covering what you "spent" to actually win some 3k Token wings. It's more of the same bs everyone is expecting, if you win you get compensated for. The prize didn't say "go win me and I'll give you all your Yggs back, plus a shiny item!" That's my take on it. As nines said, without the racism people get so aggravated against (it wasn't even the BODY of his post jesus) it doesn't necessarily mean you'd spend double what you would in two weeks. But hey, what everyone agrees on. All people want is moar itam anyway, and Idrc. We always set the prices of the items not the admin the idea about prices is just economy we have created.
Kayleigh Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) Further reason for me to disagree. From what Im seeing in pvp is not so much of people devoing lexing and all that now like it was in the one week. But its more free pvp. like it used to be. Theres some people who suck ass and need a devo to even get on the top 5 but with pvp like how it used to be before when its going this is nicer. The week long expansion I didn't like it that much but now seeing how its already effecting the people who ladder. I like it. Theres no reason to change it again. By adding further bonuses to the ladder prize that will just encourage the rich to get richer " Oh no nines doing another jew quote " Already im seeing people try to ladder who usually dont. But ofc the other rich people hogging it etc etc. - Off Topic Section - Im actually kind of on board with that old topic on limiting on how many times you can ladder. Spoils the fun for a bunch of other people. I remember when I just started gearing up when I first came here and attempted to ladder. Every time I tryed to ladder it would always be the richer people with there gangs going and ruining it while I just went in there solo. This seriously pissed me off and was on the verge of quitting because of how it displays the people of the server " Jews " I know its not related to this topic but just putting it out there. I'd be down with a no party allowed pvp room for only ladder. Make it so the best actually win legit instead of relying on a devo. People could still voke and lex yah but the main person would still be killable. And 90% of the time the person laddering fucking sucks without there gang. And Chris. Racism is for those of lesser intelligence? Oh well im sorry. Im just out here putting logical views on this and using other methods to support those views. Instead of you guys just spouting out your crap that only supports your selves. You make suggestions and agree on them without thinking of anyone else. And yes I troll a lot want to know why? Because it's the only way to jam a point into thick headed people. As I have said many times before but obviously I'm not trolling hard enough if you guys still don't get it. So thank you I will try harder to be be more of a dick. I agree that laddering should be for individuals showing their potential. But as pvp goes on this server you know exactly that it doesnt work out. If its one person laddering without a party and he/she kills everyone coming in, then there will probably be another party ganging him/her. Its a vicious circle because then the laddering person will have a party and come to get revenge etc etc. Thats pretty much how the whole "ladder ganging" started I think. And that was ages ago and not just recently. For now there isnt a rule for not allowing parties in there. And I doubt it would change anything. I wish we could turn the ladder situation around tho. I also thought a suggestion thread is made to state your own experiences and opinions. So yea its based on ourselves and our actions in order to have different views from different people. And then the GMs decide whats best for the majority. No? And we should all stay on topic. Insulting and stuff is not very professional nor is it mature. On topic: I think seed tix should be given too. Make it a balance (120 berry tix/120 seed tix) or maybe as an option to choose between berry tix and seed tix (either 150 berry tix or 150 seed tix). Right now the winner of the first prize is given 140 berry tix. Edited March 1, 2011 by Kayleigh
Chae Rin Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 There's a lot of problems in the ladder system right now and I hope the GMs can pull something together to create an actual legit pvp ladder without the uberly rich monopolizing it. This new 2 week rule; I'm not sure how it will turn out. I hope it will fix some of the many problems ladder currently has. As for the revising of the prizes, not to be a jerk or anything, but I think is unnecessary to add more because the way ladder is designed now is there will be longer periods of low action in the room so the amount of yggs you use will relatively be the same as it was before or possibly actually may even be less.
