Adamxd Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 I suggest to reactivate reductions in: santa poring, refined deviling etc. However not for every class. IMO for: sinx, gunslinger, palladin, ninja.
TensaZangetsu Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 I agree on every class except paladin stalkers and snipers
Adamxd Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 Palladins should have high defence, because they suck in offense.
TensaZangetsu Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 why add more defense when they suck at offense? shouldn't it be the other way around?
Adamxd Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) No because currently it's impossible, unless you are great scripter. And like people always say, palladin is defensive/supporting class not atacking, Edited February 21, 2011 by Adamxd
nines Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 Impossible? Its just increasing the values on the class.....
HealHard Posted February 22, 2011 Report Posted February 22, 2011 And i love PVP w/o those hats. makes it more offensive. if u want reducts, use Feather beret. Its legal one. And plz nerf the Poring tower hat too. it seems to be forgotten =)
Adamxd Posted February 22, 2011 Author Report Posted February 22, 2011 Impossible? Its just increasing the values on the class.....Yea we talk about shield chain right? adding property
HerLove Posted February 22, 2011 Report Posted February 22, 2011 Keep on topic its about the hats.I dont agree they should be changed back to what it was.Right now everything is just fine.
Sorrow Posted February 22, 2011 Report Posted February 22, 2011 i always preffered the 2 slots+freeze immunity with wings so...that doesn't really cange anything for me x3 so i guess its okay as is? Made the reduction hats useless though... Well not useless! My creator reduces more damage with a Usa+Valkryie shield+Combat Knife+Santa Poring than Usa on a F shield, not sure if a friggs would be better since i still don't have it can't test xD
Ryuk Posted February 22, 2011 Report Posted February 22, 2011 Well recovering reduction rate for just a few classes seems pretty unfair to me. On the other hand. The hats now are almost completely useless, so I agree something should be done with them.
nines Posted February 23, 2011 Report Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Ok. Gunslingers: They don't need it. They got necromancer hood which is a 40% reduct if with guns so thats more than any hat will give them. Sinx: Since there physical damage basically sucks compared to everyone else now and they are only useful for breaking now Im gonna agree with giving them reductions back. There damage output wasn't that high on reducts but now they can hardly even pvp without dropping easy unless its sin vs sin. *Dont even mention sonic blow as a factor of them being useful easy 2 dispel easy 2 fas easy 2 kill all around* Ninjas: They have flip tatami and cicida skin shedding a long with soul and illusionary shadow. They don't really need more reason to be able to fkin not die lol. They can also shadow jump run super fast. Paladins:.....Just devo people who aren't idiots? Paladin is already really able to survive a lot they get 450k + hp easy get a peco and can carry a shit ton of supply also have a ton of skills/gear choices to fall back onto to take anyone out. The damage to paladins isn't that high....seriously lol they can gtb and take 8k hits still. And no 1handed bows aren't unfair. Change your tampon >> Edited February 23, 2011 by nines
Seraphine Posted February 23, 2011 Report Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) I agree with Nines about gunslingers and paladins, also giving reducts for just a few classes and not others like Ryuk said is unfair. Edited February 23, 2011 by Seraphine
HerLove Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 i agree gs doesnt need it. I totally disagree that sinx needs it they do alot of damage with the crit sword already. Ninjas are very hard to kill if played right so they dont need it. And I also agree that paladins dont need more reductions.
nines Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Unfair? Each class is different. Each class will have something the other doesn't. Each class can have different things about them. This is a high rate server. The only thing that could be classified as unfair would be if a class got reducts and did mass damage at the same time. And no the sinx crit isn't all that great. It does do a good amount of damage but even a sinx with reducts is still very killable. Also there damage is lowered and have to change stats around lowering there str and there dmg. Just because one person gets something doesn't mean everyone should. This isn't school where if you bring a snack for your self you gotta share with everyone else. It's a game. Certain classes aren't as great as others and holding them all to one standard is what is truly unfair.
HerLove Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 i think we all get that the reductions are fine as is!
Chae Rin Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Yes but please do something with the hats they are close to useless now. Edited February 24, 2011 by Chae Rin
Ryuk Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Just because one person gets something doesn't mean everyone should. This isn't school where if you bring a snack for your self you gotta share with everyone else. It's a game. Certain classes aren't as great as others and holding them all to one standard is what is truly unfair. True but the classes mentioned above are certainly not one of the "less great" classes. Ninja might need a boost but not by adding even more survivability. The rest of the mentioned classes are perfectly fine as they are. I'm sorry I just dont see any reason to return the reductions specially not for just a few classes and even excluding the support classes from that list. i think we all get that the reductions are fine as is! Yes but please do something with the hats they are close to useless now.Agreed to those.
Veracity Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 The reductions were edited for a reason and they're not going to be changed any time soon, even if it were only for certain classes. - Rejected -