Masahiro Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) yeah man! i was gona say i personally want the reducts to work well for the newer/lesser geared players to help with their survivability but the advantageous and absurd reduct capacity of some classes shouldnt be propogated on the same breath currently im watching a lesser geared sinx pvp in for fild with dev hat, and i cant help but feel if that is nurfed 2 much it'll make their life a hell, but balance must be found! cuz at the same token we cant have some stalker all defensed up like fort knox and running amok forever. this is a tricky issue. i still maintain 75% is enough, but yeah as Cirr is saying and others above once certain things don't stack its fine certain combinations etc etc, so no1 has to suffer with their individual reduct item but in combination it cannot exceed x% as you guys are deciding whether it be 70, 75 or 80% Edit: in my opinion if you have sacred why do you need to wear dev as well? it should be choice either to wear a sacred and get its bonus with friggs or w/e or wear a dev and get just a bit MORe defense and wear friggs etc but lack things like aspd 2 slots, nd f.set bonus etc wearing Sacred u lose the 10 stats from ruc or the extra 10 from a scarf to whatever stat. combat knife could add in here if that works out so, combo 1: friggs = 60% + sacred = 10% = 70 OR combo 2: or friggs + dev etc = 75% combo 3: and friggs dev + combat knife for those lucky enough to wear 1 = 80% (though i personally am against this, but give and take is part of life) as mentioned above etc. final words: i don't see why u have to have 80% glory defense, 75% seems enough to me, but w/e, remember most will never have friggs or sgws so count your blessings Edited January 16, 2011 by Masahiro
Cirrus Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 The first set of codes does what you exactly just said. If you wear Sacred, you get +10% reductions + F.Helm. But if you wear a Devi/Santa Poring, the if script makes it that whatever 15% bonus the hat has, it goes to 0. So you're still stuck with 10. If you wear Devi/Santa Poring only (without Sacred), you get 15% reductions for your headgear equips. But if you actually wear a Sacred along with it, as said above, you cancel out 15% reductions, making only your Sacred count, i.e. 10% total. As in the scripts I presented, whatever you do (Frigg's+Usako+Devi/SantaPoring+CombatKnife or Frigg's+Usako+Sacred+CombatKnife) you'll only get a total of 80%. If you try to wear 15% and 10% on your headgears you lose out on 5% reducts, making your total 75% (makes you look stupid and even more useless, you don't even have a weapon to help you fight.) This makes you have a maximum of 75% demihuman reductions while wielding an actual useful weapon, and 80% only for a "full reduction" build (which is far from the current 95% possible.) I hope people understand this. Lol.
Masahiro Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 The first set of codes does what you exactly just said. If you wear Sacred, you get +10% reductions + F.Helm. But if you wear a Devi/Santa Poring, the if script makes it that whatever 15% bonus the hat has, it goes to 0. So you're still stuck with 10. If you wear Devi/Santa Poring only (without Sacred), you get 15% reductions for your headgear equips. But if you actually wear a Sacred along with it, as said above, you cancel out 15% reductions, making only your Sacred count, i.e. 10% total. As in the scripts I presented, whatever you do (Frigg's+Usako+Devi/SantaPoring+CombatKnife or Frigg's+Usako+Sacred+CombatKnife) you'll only get a total of 80%. If you try to wear 15% and 10% on your headgears you lose out on 5% reducts, making your total 75% (makes you look stupid and even more useless, you don't even have a weapon to help you fight.) This makes you have a maximum of 75% demihuman reductions while wielding an actual useful weapon, and 80% only for a "full reduction" build (which is far from the current 95% possible.) I hope people understand this. Lol. yeah i know xD and i agree with you, sounds good. what do others have to say?
Cirrus Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 In the face of a real solution people stop and stare. Lol jk I changed the if script for sacreds/devilings to keep the higher reducts, (cancelling out the sacreds' 10% instead) so stacking everything would still have a max of 80% instead of 75% (with Combat Knife and a cancelled out Sacreds.) Makes more sense that way, still keeping every single calculation in there in check.
Masahiro Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) lol whatver the max reduct should be obtained, it should be obtained with sacreds on.. sacred and friggs on, those 2, don't stack the other items with more priority. sacred should have the max priority, then Devs then Friggs. in order of equipping etc, combat the lowest (or highest depending on the Gm's goals with these revamped reducts) the fact that you sacrifice a ruc or w/e and a helm is good to get this u need to sacrifice stats and the slot from the lower and a slot from the upper to get this type of defense Edited January 17, 2011 by Masahiro
Genesis Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 I'm going to move this to accepted as a lot of fixes were done. If there are any other points you guys want to make, please make another topic.
