New Sinx Weapon

[Halion]

katar = sinx, only sinxs can use them.

makes sinx's main weapon is katar, dagger is just for hybrids

[nines]

Only sinx can use them means its there main?...................................................

Im astounded by your logic.

[Miku]

Alright. The next person to stray off of topic is getting warn increased.

This is about the stats of a new katar. Stop straying off of topic.

[Primo]

then explain to me why u deserve this upgrade?

Cause all i see is "Sniper Bow This Stalker Bow That"

If you think the sinx class need this increase then explain why.

Explain Why doing 15k Sb + However manytimes it hits Is underpowered

Cause the way i see it is

When you can spam 4-5 And you take out 260k Hp Its not close to being under used.

Stone curse + No reducts is the flaw

Just Like its a flaw with other classes.

Enlighten me on why this is so needed to fix the sinx class.

Cause how i see it The new Daggers give Some spice to the class. Some of the updates where used to play classes different ways

Not to just Op the shit outta a Class.

So ill agree to this Post when i see full reasons on why this class needs this weapon so badly.

I play sinx and hell i hate this post. So explain why you need this,

[bankai`]

I don't think it's a good idea to make these weapons 1 handed that will make sinx annoying to fight and yes my main is SinX don't want people to start complaining like what they did with the stalker soaring. Sonic blow is a stealth skill so it's meant to play stealth mode with alittle Demi-human reductions won't hurt.

[Primo]

exactly

if you cant do the move properly then chances are ur gonna die.

I do admit you can die fast

so a little reduction wont hurt

maybe 10% since people never complained about it before only after the weps came out did people say

hey i want this 1handed

[maxlittle007]

Katar getting one handed is definately not a good idea.If a sinx wants redux let them switch to a dagger+shield ,simple as that.We cannot make every single aspect too convenient just because we want it that way.The server will lack more challenge and its a direct ticket to unstableness.Katar should never have redux either.

A katar stats should be like this or atleast something similar to this.

Two Handed Katar [4]

str+ 20

dex+ 15

vit+ 20

20% more hp and sp

Reduce casting delay by 10%

15% more damage on demi human monsters

5% chance to strip enemies armor and shield while doing melee damage.

[Miracle]

Erm, no. ^

SinX already has one of the highest HPs of all classes, and giving them more SP to spam cloaking/backslide is a no. They already have the capabilities to run enough. Reducing their cast delay is a no too in my book. Sonic blow should have a draw back, and it requiring a 2 hand weapon isn't enough. 4 kiels or 3 and 2 expert rings SHOULD be necessary, since a sinX can spam Sonic Blow like crazy and automatically cloak or hide, and win a berry war with it's enemy, I've seen it done. Also, they can already full strip an enemy with a Drill Katar, so I see that aspect of the suggestion being unnecessary. A donation, 2 hand Katar SHOULD have reductions and include an increase in damage, of possibly 10-15%? Not too much, but not too little that it isn't worth it.

[bankai`]

I agree with miracle they already have enough hp to tank elemental damage so why would you give them more hp and sp. Seeing this being a 2 hand weapon having a shield isn't option meaning any most neutral property attack will kill. Also if you're in range of any semi full asura cast you will die guranteed, even if you're the best at using cloak or back slide so this is why I suggested reduction over hp increase.

[maxlittle007]

Erm, no. ^

SinX already has one of the highest HPs of all classes, and giving them more SP to spam cloaking/backslide is a no. They already have the capabilities to run enough. Reducing their cast delay is a no too in my book. Sonic blow should have a draw back, and it requiring a 2 hand weapon isn't enough. 4 kiels or 3 and 2 expert rings SHOULD be necessary, since a sinX can spam Sonic Blow like crazy and automatically cloak or hide, and win a berry war with it's enemy, I've seen it done. Also, they can already full strip an enemy with a Drill Katar, so I see that aspect of the suggestion being unnecessary. A donation, 2 hand Katar SHOULD have reductions and include an increase in damage, of possibly 10-15%? Not too much, but not too little that it isn't worth it.

So you say

Casting delay with kiel +expert rings

Full strip with drill katar.

The same way, IN MY BOOK use Fdagger+usakoring shield for reductions.And since they are two handed katars,they cant use usakoring shield so a little hp boost seems fine.

And reductions on a katar is a sure NO.

[Rvnender]

No, no HP increase on Katar. As somebody already said, SinX's already a lot of health to begin with. SinX's are not a tanking class. They shouldn't have the 2nd highest HP on the server. Giving them even more health? No. Can't agree with that.

nines, the reason why daggers are so popular on this server is because there aren't any other options really. Now I'm suggesting an option, this is why I posted this.

The Katar also doesn't need full strip. I will agree with demihuman damage. I do feel that it does need a little of it.

From what I have read, it seems as though most people want the SinX to be a one man machine who can one shot LKs and take the emp in 2 seconds. Come on guys, we're looking for balance. Not SinX's raping everything during WoE.

[Guest xonchu]

Two-handed katar[4]

+20str

+20agi

-10% reduction to demi-humans

+100% damage with Grimtooth/SandAttack

thats what i have in mind :o

[Miku]

Grimtooth does up to 30k with just a incan combo.

30% More damage with grimtooth and 50% More with Sand Attack would seem ok.

[Guest xonchu]

wow didnt notice grimtooth dmg could go up to 30k o.o like the dmg of my grimtooth was 10k down... was even happy it reached 10k ._. oh well..

tweaked and here it goes

Two-handed katar[4]

attack: 220

+20str

+20agi

-10% reduction to demi-humans

+30% damage with Grimtooth and 50% with SandAttack

[Adamxd]

-10% reduction from demi human? Lolol

Grimtooth does around 14-16k on people with f shield and usakoring, 33-36k without shield, thats usual damage without being linked so 50% for Grimtooth and Sandra atack seems fine

[Guest xonchu]

yes. reduction since its 2 handed. 10% isnt bad since he doesnt equip shield. i saw people making katar 1 handed as a suggestion because they needed shield with 60%+ reducts. so 10% isnt a bad choice. if people dont agree we cant just remove it or make it -5% reducts

[Miracle]

I suggest 15% reductions. 10% is nearly nothing, and only half of what a Forsaken Shield on it's own can do. Katar-wielding Assassin's are easily beaten by magic classes who have the ability to dispell/uncloak/attack from afar, and are very susceptible to attacks due to their low amount of reductions. I agree that Assassin's are a big threat while wielding a Katar, but you have to also consider how vulnerable they can be as well seeing as they need to wear a minimum of 3 kiels to spam, usually 4, and take 55% more damage then someone else wearing a Forsaken Shield with an Usakoring Card. 15% is as good as wearing a Refined Deviling Hat/Santa Poring Hat, and would not be overpowered by any means.

[Guest xonchu]

^i agree with miracle. u need shield inorder to last longer with magic classes placing them GTB or usakoring. making a katar one handed isnt really good to hear or look at in any way. So would this be good?

Two-handed katar[4]

attack: 220

+20str

+20agi

-15%/-10%/-5% reduction to demi-humans

+50% damage with Grimtooth and 50% with SandAttack

[Halion]

man who the heck needs sand attack? <.<

my suggestion was perfect

Name: super pro katar

Attack:300

Effect:

inmunity to stone curse

str/dex +20

Element: fire (for ppl to wear fire resist and don't cry)

nothing else needs to be added, pros can get by with this thing

without stone curse u can do amazing things @_@

[Guest xonchu]

i disagree with that katar^

giving stone curse immunity makes those Fsoldier card=freaking out of the economy. That will hurt a lot especially sinx class needs immunity to stone curse. And seriously, making a katar having a default element which is fire is terrible. when people use fire resists= katar goes useless. man i know how to see things, it isnt even pro as it is.

"who needs sand attack"

its to make sinx make out with another style.

[Halion]

u may disagree but once u get the item u will be god trust me :p

[Guest xonchu]

by just reading by it i will know the effects on it ingame. it would really ruin a lot on the economy with which u have just stated. And giving the weapon with an element is a big nono if i were to say. you would be stuck with fire element with which u have stated.

Two-handed katar[4]

attack: 220

+20str

+20agi

-15%/-10%/-5% reduction to demi-humans

+50% damage with Grimtooth and 50% with SandAttack

this is better as of yours which is stated. regarding all odds and all the reasons. maybe adding Sonic Blow damage % or Soul Destroyer damage would be also nice. or maybe just changing Sand Attack.

[Primo]

You have to remember the Valk weps where put to give a little bit of Difference in the game

players play classes differently.

Like crit sinx no one has used that legit for a long time.

so a grimtooth sinx with out thana would be a different class to play.

And stonecurse is something that a sinx has to give up if you want to spam

or go fsold + 3kiels

And element is a no.

Just use converters.

[bankai`]

man who the heck needs sand attack? <.<

my suggestion was perfect

Name: super pro katar

Attack:300

Effect:

inmunity to stone curse

str/dex +20

Element: fire (for ppl to wear fire resist and don't cry)

nothing else needs to be added, pros can get by with this thing

without stone curse u can do amazing things @_@

Not to be fucked up or anyhing but this katar sucks...lol. First of all stone curse is a no no this will make sinx way to easy to get kills without any disadvatages trust me I know a hand full of pro katar users and it's annoying and fire property for the weapon wouldn't a good idea because I can just counter with a jakk card and dmg will be reduce to dust so I disagree on this suggestion..

[Rayray]

the katar suggested is really good, but way too good. giving the katar an element makes sinx NOT use converters when needed which is a huge advantage. second, immunity to stone curse would make them invulnerable to most status that still affects 100+vit(freeze and stone curse). str and dex added is enough, add 15% reducts like miracle said. and probably one more effect that isn't OP for sinx.