Pvp Ladder (kills / Deaths Ratio)

[Perishable]

If the kill/death ratio is being re-instated. How will the newbies do PvP Laddering if all the good players keep hogging the PvP ladder and keep the Kills / Deaths Ratio at 60%? Not everyone can do that. Most of the Solo Laddering players get gang'd and it isn't fair for them. Can we think about the newbies trying to ladder and sell wings to get gears?. Support them

I just think putting a 7 days effort trying to stay first place is fair enough. Adding the Kills / Deaths ratio won't be fair for some players. Did you notice only the people laddering and that can do that suggest? Not the community?

Effort

1. exertion of physical or mental power: It will take great effort to achieve victory.

2. an earnest or strenuous attempt: an effort to keep to the schedule.

3. something done by exertion or hard work: I thought it would be easy, but it was an effort.

4. an achievement, as in literature or art: The painting is one of his finest efforts.

5. the amount of exertion expended for a specified purpose: the war effort.

6. Chiefly British .

a. an organized community drive or achievement.

b. a fund-raising drive.

7. Mechanics . the force or energy that is applied to a machine for the accomplishment of useful work.

Edited August 29, 2010 by Perishable

[nines]

Did you notice only the people that ladder agree? Because the community doesn't ladder. Most of them got no gear.

+ I just won ladder on a sniper soloing vs a gang of cheaters about 70% of the time I was alone 100% of the time he had a gang.

The no K/d Made it way to easy to cheat -.- could just ol and win. If these people that usually do ladder want to ladder well I just hope they learn how to kill without orc lords.

Because before the k/d was gone sinxs solo laddered so did champs and you know what they won.

[Perishable]

OLs kill in Ladder has been removed. And my point is, its not fear for people with no gears. Like you said Most of them got no gears and its already bad enough.

[n i k k o]

Agree with some

and nines werent you one to wanna help the new players?

enabling the k/d so they can ladder would make it a way for them to get gears

And you didnt win without anyhelp you where asking loli for buffs and shit :] i would know i was sitting next to chris everytime you needed the buffs

Anyways

I think there should be a Point to the K/d

But make it very flexible so anyone can ladder gang or no gang

[ramonjordan]

It really makes no difference either way those new players are going to die either way.

What made laddering gay was when people started bringing guilds and gangs of like 20 in pvp making it less skill and more popularity contest.

Ladder is a mess what i suggest is make ladder so the warper dispells all buffs and no parties allowed, take out the pallies and all that 100vs 1 mess.

Until then no new player is going to get even close to winning pvp ladder.

[Veracity]

Even if parties weren't allowed, people would still work together (read: LMS). Unfortunately, there is nothing we can really do to eliminate this problem short of removing pvp ladder all together, which I don't think people would be in favor of.

[ramonjordan]

Yeah but thats why new players can't really ladder but it would take out devo at least making it a bit better.

The K/d ratio just makes it so you have to earn it not just having more kills then the next guy.

If you don't win try again or wait until your more geared for pvp.

[Leaz]

nah keep the k/d ratio

Edited August 29, 2010 by Leaz

[Ryuk]

I never agreed to the re-implementation of the K/D ratio. The new weapons already screwed up the chances of the less geared players by A LOT, while they already had little chances. Now with the re-implementation of the K/D ratio new players lost another way to try and gear up, and that while I thought we wanted to make changes to help the new people instead of reducing their chances even more..

Also

+ I just won ladder on a sniper soloing vs a gang of cheaters about 70% of the time I was alone 100% of the time he had a gang.

You have never given us any proper proof of people cheating in ladder, so I don't get why you keep accusing people.

[Barbie]

I am against this too :\ I agree it will make it harder for newer less geared people.

[Renegade]

Moved to the correct section. I do not believe this belongs in 'Support.'