Imperial Valkyrie Helmet

[Tom & Jerry]

Dunno if anyone agrees with this, but since Imperial Valks have the same effects as golden Valkyrie helmet, their stats should definitely be higher, say +5-7 all stats? Because I am aware that gvh is not coloured selectable. But the difference of 2-4 grand coupons compared to 200 is just too big, I believe there should be more advantages to the Imperial Valkyrie Helmet, but we should not give too large a boost, as to make the economy imbalanced.

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- Jer

[Just sayin']

I agree. (:

[nines]

This server is way to based on colors and the price of those colors, I've made this suggestion before already but been shot down I believe.

Would like to see this happen maybe +5 to all stats but doubt it will happen.

[Ryuk]

I disagree, this would only enlarge the value gap between the two items. + 5-7 to all stats is too high as well in my opinion.

[Tom & Jerry]

I disagree, this would only enlarge the value gap between the two items. + 5-7 to all stats is too high as well in my opinion.

I still support my suggestion, I don't think this should be left unheard, it is quite funny how everyone cares about color so much, how about we get real. This server is all about colour. That's why blue emps can sell for 3.4 k or something, and the other three under 1.5 k. Why do Blue imps sell for 3 k plus when gvh only sells for 200 , honestly that's a little weird. Let's see, why don't we allow all players to players with imperials to refund them back to the server, and then let them be rereleased from WoE drops and GVG, I know this process is tiring, but it will definitely change how colour based this server is.

I say Its time for change, I say items price should be far more based on stat than ability. WHy should things be worth more if they have the exact same effects, that kinda like saying in real that a blue yoyo will cost more than a black one, since it is a better colour? Things only work that way with ugly colors and/or unusual ones. Supposedly an orange iPod that looks popish will sell less than a black one, except, none of our colors look ugly, in my opinion, green is just as a good color as blue, and tan is just a good color as ANYTHING else.

Thanks

[Ryuk]

I don't think we're really able to change the fact that colors decide the price of the item, instead of the effect. Forcing everyone to hand in their imp. valk is not an option.

[Tom & Jerry]

I don't think we're really able to change the fact that colors decide the price of the item, instead of the effect. Forcing everyone to hand in their imp. valk is not an option.

Differentapproaches are possible. Of course some people will take advantage and sell them, but think, how many people can afford Imperial Valks on this server, and How many of those people don't ALREADY have an impvalk? Just saying, the economy won't really be ruined.

[-Mtw-]

Yeh man, I agree

[nines]

Tom, your not a motivational speaker so stop saying I say it is time for change etc etc.

This is a game....and in the game world people value things differently people are willing to pay 3k for a blue imp just because of its rarity, when new color rucks come out and they and like how it looks and there aren't a lot of them being sold people will pay 700 for it even though they already have a deviling rucksack which does the same as that other one.

I don't like the fact that colors cost more than others which is why I just buy the cheaper stuff and use it, even though I can afford the better colored ones that would make my character look better I really don't care that much.

IF ANYTHING, The GvG Imperial Valkyrie Helms should do the +5 stats it would be an unfair boost to those who do have it yes, and the price would go up. But because of how much harder it is to get an Imperial Valkyrie helm the price/worth of them should be higher.

If you want the economy to be fixed why don't you go sell 20 blue imps and 20 blue emps for 1500 qpons each and ruin there price. I helped fix the price of the new Valkyrie weapons by saying I sold most of mine for like 400-500 and the price went down on a bunch of these. So why not give it a try, I know your rich in game if you really want to help solve the color issue do something about it, instead of talking like your trying to start a movement to get ride of recolors.

:)

[Veggie&Mac]

This server is way to based on colors and the price of those colors.

What he said.

only color make the price worth itself.

[supream]

purple emp is 1.1k(or something around that) and blue emp is 3k+ and they both do the same thing. color is why it coast so much.

[nines]

Supply and Demand. Shoulda just said that before lol

[maxlittle007]

purple emp is 1.1k(or something around that) and blue emp is 3k+ and they both do the same thing. color is why it coast so much.

Present generation is fashion oriented?XD.I think imp helm should have two horns rather than stats,Just kidding LOL.

Well if imp helm is given stats,then obviously emp auras,rop,F-Helms,sgw/raw should be changed aswell because they are all classified on the basis of colours and not stats.And what about rucksacks,there are so many rucksacks ,is it possible to give different stats to all rucksacks?

So i dont think this suggestion is possible.

[Veracity]

I don't think there is any way real way to change what you're getting at. People are always going to sell better looking items for more because there is more demand for them and they know that people will buy them. Because all of the stats are the same, people are going to place more value on the appearance of an item and not its effects... that's just the way it is and will be, there is really no getting around that. This is more something that can be influenced by the players than by the administration, IMO. If you don't want people to charge too much, then don't buy it from them or sell at high prices. I have a limited understanding of economics so I may be off base here, please correct me if I'm wrong. But regardless of that, I don't think anything can be done about more value being placed on different recolors of items.

About the Imperial Valk Helm itself: I'm with Ryuk that +5-7 stats is too much. IMO + all stats should really be avoided. We already have a lot of + all stats already, if you continue to add more to items, when new items are released they will have to be increased as well until one day you see +50 all stats on things like emp auroras and that is just a no. I don't think there is anyone who would be okay with that. People protested us doing this with Valkyrie weapons quite a bit and we were very careful about this, taking into account the strengths/weaknesses of each class, etc. and spent hours working on the effects. Not to mention these were only specific stats (eg. vit, dex, and so on) and not even all stats. All stats is just... scary.

Sorry for the lengthy reply, lol. In short: I don't believe that there's anything that can be done about the varying prices of items based on color and +5-7 stats is too much. I think it's fine the way it is.

Edited August 25, 2010 by Veracity

[xBiscuit]

Gold Valk is supposed to Gold Imperial, if I remember correctly.

Edited August 25, 2010 by xBiscuit

[Perishable]

Yes. It's supposed to gold Imperial but it drops higher than Imp. Helm so Imps are worth more. Gvh is 2.00% Imp Helm is 0.50%

[Ethereal]

Imperial helmets are perfectly fine the way they are, IMO. As Veracity mentioned, we have a lot of equipment that add +STATS, I don't see any reason to constantly add more. So no, I disagree with the suggestion.

Also you can't really do anything about the economical value of colored items in-game. (Well, there are methods, but that's difficult.) Blue has the most economical value because of it's rarity and because of it's appearance. If you're a fashion-lover like myself, you'd know that blue can basically go with any pallete. Other colours like orange, green, and purple are mainly directed towards a set variety of palletes.

[Veracity]

Yes. It's supposed to gold Imperial but it drops higher than Imp. Helm so Imps are worth more. Gvh is 2.00% Imp Helm is 0.50%

One of the only ways we could fix the price difference between the two is if we made gvh drop as low as the imp helms, but this is problematic because there are so many gvh out there already. Short of taking back everyone's gvh helms (which is obviously not an option), there isn't much we can do about it now. Twice, I think in some ways this is beneficial because it makes it more affordable for players who do not have an excessive amount of coupons. Imp helms are still more valuable though because of their rarity and their color selection. In my opinion, it strikes a nice balance.

As for the original suggestion, this is being rejected for these reasons mentioned in my prior post:

I don't think there is any way real way to change what you're getting at. People are always going to sell better looking items for more because there is more demand for them and they know that people will buy them. Because all of the stats are the same, people are going to place more value on the appearance of an item and not its effects... that's just the way it is and will be, there is really no getting around that. This is more something that can be influenced by the players than by the administration, IMO. If you don't want people to charge too much, then don't buy it from them or sell at high prices. I have a limited understanding of economics so I may be off base here, please correct me if I'm wrong. But regardless of that, I don't think anything can be done about more value being placed on different recolors of items.

About the Imperial Valk Helm itself: I'm with Ryuk that +5-7 stats is too much. IMO + all stats should really be avoided. We already have a lot of + all stats already, if you continue to add more to items, when new items are released they will have to be increased as well until one day you see +50 all stats on things like emp auroras and that is just a no. I don't think there is anyone who would be okay with that. People protested us doing this with Valkyrie weapons quite a bit and we were very careful about this, taking into account the strengths/weaknesses of each class, etc. and spent hours working on the effects. Not to mention these were only specific stats (eg. vit, dex, and so on) and not even all stats. All stats is just... scary.

I didn't reject it at the time I posted because I wanted to see if there would be any more discussion or if someone could correct what I said. Since there was little feedback, I think this has had its time for consideration.

- Rejected -