Woe Drops Info

[maxlittle007]

There are many guild members who are desperate to get their treasure chest drops[emperium aura,golden valkyrie helm,leafring rucksack etc etc].But sadly their reward from the guild masters are delaying even after they get the castle.The guild masters have an easy answer for that,"treasure chest didnt drop it".Ofcourse its true and i agree with that.BUT its not true in all the cases.

I often hear people say "My Guild master seems to have 3 or 4 emp auras or gvh but they dont seem to give me even 1 emp aura for my loyalty".But at the same we cant blame the guild masters aswell because they might have got more than 1 emp aura/gvh from some other source,and they might also be truthful when they say emp aura hasnt been dropped since its a low chance.It is a really a confusing thing.

Case 1:

The guild treasure chest drops info cant be viewed by guild members.Certain guild masters take advantage of that and keep the emp auras/gvh/etc etc for themself.I am not blaming all the guild masters,its just certain people.Here guild memebers are discouraged to woe,and besides why do even woe?ofcourse for a good reward[aka treasure chest drops].Every loyal guild member deserve a reward for their loyalty.Abusing a guild members loyalty isnt a good thing.

Case 2:

There are good guild masters who are truthful to their members.But unfortunately their guild members wont believe even if the guild master tell them the truth about the treasure chest drops.So guild members leave the guild.And that is a frustrating situation.

This is a problem for both guild members and guild masters.Usually the treasure chest drop details can only be viewed by the guild master when he opens the treasure chest.What is suggest is.....

The treasure chest drop details should be viewed by the guild members aswell.When you log into ro you get a message about server details right?So how about you get treasure chest drop details along with the server info like

Treasure Chest Has Been Opened :

1 ea Emperium aura

1 ea Golden Valkyrie helm

1 ea Leafring rucksack

If a guild gets castle and if the guild master opens the treasure chest,all the guild members will get the treasure chest drops info till the next woe.

This is will help the guild members realizeif their guild master is lying or not AND Guild members wont mistake their guild masters.This will also encourage lot of players to woe.

And people please dont give comments like [Emp aura isnt the strongest aura,Zodiac aura is better than emp,I kill ppl with emp aura,I dont need drops i only woe for killing etc etc].These comments are NOT RELATED with my topic.If you arent interested in guild treasure chest drops ,Kindly stay away from this thread.I made this topic specially for loyal guild members who regularly woe and are desperate to get their reward.

If your rejecting ,make sure comment is related with the topic.

Poeple please comment on my topic.

Edited August 22, 2010 by maxlittle007

[supream]

dont think this is possible. the only thing close to this that i have seen is when a god item has been brought into the game, but everyone sees that message, not just guild members.

[maxlittle007]

dont think this is possible. the only thing close to this that i have seen is when a god item has been brought into the game, but everyone sees that message, not just guild members.

Why do you think it isnt possible?Or you got your emp aura/gvh somehow.so you dont care about other players?Saying this isnt possible should be from a GM.I wonder if a person who hasnt got woe drops yet would answer like you?

Besides you only said it isnt possible,but theres no valid reason to support your comment.

Edited August 22, 2010 by maxlittle007

[Deceptive]

I agree with this, but I think it would take a lot of effort from the GM's. This would be awesome, because yes not all guild leaders are truthful, and some are truthful, and people leave guilds.

+1 :D.

[supream]

Why do you think it isnt possible?Or you got your emp aura/gvh somehow.so you dont care about other players?Saying this isnt possible should be from a GM.I wonder if a person who hasnt got woe drops yet would answer like you?

Besides you only said it isnt possible,but theres no valid reason to support your comment.

wow man you got defensive for no reason. im not saying that i disagree with this, and that some guild leaders do horde the drops, but how can u script it so you can see what people got from treasure boxes? do you know how to do it? like i said the only way that i know when someone really gets something was when the god items were on the official server and when they came into game it would be announced with the players name.

[maxlittle007]

wow man you got defensive for no reason. im not saying that i disagree with this, and that some guild leaders do horde the drops, but how can u script it so you can see what people got from treasure boxes? do you know how to do it? like i said the only way that i know when someone really gets something was when the god items were on the official server and when they came into game it would be announced with the players name.

I respect the fact that you support my suggestion.

But did the GM tell you its hard to script that,or atleast did the GM inform it here?How can you come up with something like that out of nowhere?

[Phenomenon]

I love you Shane, but I have to disagree. It's true that Guild Masters can tend to be corrupt and horde drops every once in awhile, but the downfalls of this suggestion far outweigh the benefits. If all the guild members knew what had dropped, they would immediately demand that they receive said item for their services and if the guild leader was planning to distribute multiple at a time to please multiple people, or wait and give the drop to the most loyal member, that would all go out the window. A guild is about camaraderie, and thus you must be able to trust the leader because of past experiences or actions of said leader, if you feel a leader is short changing everyone, you're free to leave the guild or start another guild and inform current members of your concerns. You must be able to trust the person you are under, and if you don't, simply leave. Exposing everything about the drops encourages begging and extreme actions (such as threatening to leave the guild if they are not compensated, etc), players are just not mature or level-headed enough to respect a leaders decision when obtaining drops, or else this suggestion would get my vote.

[maxlittle007]

I love you Shane, but I have to disagree. It's true that Guild Masters can tend to be corrupt and horde drops every once in awhile, but the downfalls of this suggestion far outweigh the benefits. If all the guild members knew what had dropped, they would immediately demand that they receive said item for their services and if the guild leader was planning to distribute multiple at a time to please multiple people, or wait and give the drop to the most loyal member, that would all go out the window. A guild is about camaraderie, and thus you must be able to trust the leader because of past experiences or actions of said leader, if you feel a leader is short changing everyone, you're free to leave the guild or start another guild and inform current members of your concerns. You must be able to trust the person you are under, and if you don't, simply leave. Exposing everything about the drops encourages begging and extreme actions (such as threatening to leave the guild if they are not compensated, etc), players are just not mature or level-headed enough to respect a leaders decision when obtaining drops, or else this suggestion would get my vote.

I never said all guild masters,just certain people.Guild members dont threaten ,they just claim reward for their loyalty.

Even if you say thats threatening,ok i partly agree with it,that wont be an ethical behaviour from the guild members side.But what about the guild master taking the drop for himself?

If threatening is unfair like you said from the guild members side?then what about cheating from the guild masters side?

Edited August 22, 2010 by maxlittle007

[Shimmy]

Well. Ask your Guild leader to take screens and shit.

And remember some Leaders do horde but other have emps and stuff saved up.

I can think of a few Past leaders and Present leaders

that have had emps before they started the guild.

And keeping an Emp that dropped just to hold it is a good way to see who is really loyal.

Loyal players do it for fun not for an emp or castle drop in general

[maxlittle007]

Well. Ask your Guild leader to take screens and shit.

And remember some Leaders do horde but other have emps and stuff saved up.

I can think of a few Past leaders and Present leaders

that have had emps before they started the guild.

And keeping an Emp that dropped just to hold it is a good way to see who is really loyal.

Loyal players do it for fun not for an emp or castle drop in general

I specifically mentioned that if your arent interested in guild treasure drops,you can stay away from this thread.I made this topic specially for loyal guild members who are desperate for thier emp auras/gvh etc etc.

For people who already got their guild treasure chest drops dont care about people who are yet to get it[ no offence].

And i never said all guild masters cheat.There are good guild masters too.And besides if you woe just for fun thats your own thing.But there are people who prefers to have fun in their own way[aka by getting rewards for their loyalty].

I wonder if all guild members would say ,we are loyal so we dont need drops?

This suggestion would benefit guild members and guild masters aswell.

Edited August 22, 2010 by maxlittle007

[Perishable]

I kinda agree with this thread but I don't think it's possible. I'm the type of Guild Leader that woes and let members open treasure now. I don't need anything from treasure except the New Valkyrie Weapons (which is not woe related). Got everything I wanted. There is more ways to get rich than just Woeing. There are Ladder, Sotw, Selling for a crazy price, Buy for cheap, sell for high, etc. WoE, you won't always win woe and you barely get drops because woe rewards are low chance to get them. If you use (@mi) and the Treasure ID for certain castle, you'll see the % chance to get the reward for certain items. All of the castle have the same % rate for each Woe Drops. Plus, guilds nowadays cannot hold castle to get high commercial growths because of how many guilds and breakers rushing castle to destroy the emperium. So any guild that have castle only have 4 Treasure monster to kill. Every 5-7 commercial growth(Castle Economy) you get another extra treasure. Guild Leader gets to invest twice a day. You get 1-2 commercial growth everytime you invest. So only 4-5 chances of getting ... Errr Here's the ID.

Fadhgridh Castle (prtg_cas03)

ID is (@mi 1358)

Deviling Rucksack : 2.50%

Blue Imperial Valkyrie Helm : 0.50%

Yggdrasil Red Box 100.00%

Blue Emperium Aurora 2.00%

Flapping Deviling Wings 2.00%

Omen of Tempest 0.80%

Badge of Honor 0.40%

Forsaken Soldier Card 2.00%

2nd ID (@mi 1359) This ID doesn't have Blue Emperium so it makes blue emp rare and cost more than any other emperium. Because all the other castle have 2 ID and both ID drops their Emperium. So blue is still hard to get.

Deviling Rucksack : 2.50%

Forsaken Soldier Card 2.00%

Flapping Deviling Wings 2.00%

Omen of Tempest 0.80%

Badge of Honor 0.40%

Yggdrasil Red Box 100%

If nothing drops, you get only Yggdrasil Red Box. You can get more than 1 drops from 1 treasure. Just low chance.

Here's the ID for

Alde @mi 1326 & @mi 1327.

Payon @mi 1350 & @mi 1351.

Geffen @mi 1334 & @mi 1335.

Check them out for more information.

Edited August 22, 2010 by Perishable

[maxlittle007]

I kinda agree with this thread but I don't think it's possible. I'm the type of Guild Leader that woes and let members open treasure now. I don't need anything from treasure except the New Valkyrie Weapons (which is not woe related). Got everything I wanted. There is more ways to get rich than just Woeing. There are Ladder, Sotw, Selling for a crazy price, Buy for cheap, sell for high, etc. WoE, you won't always win woe and you barely get drops because woe rewards are low chance to get them. If you use (@mi) and the Treasure ID for certain castle, you'll see the % chance to get the reward for certain items. All of the castle have the same % rate for each Woe Drops. Plus, guilds nowadays cannot hold castle to get high commercial growths because of how many guilds and breakers rushing castle to destroy the emperium. So any guild that have castle only have 4 Treasure monster to kill. Every 5-7 commercial growth(Castle Economy) you get another extra treasure. Guild Leader gets to invest twice a day. You get 1-2 commercial growth everytime you invest. So only 4-5 chances of getting ... Errr Here's the ID.

Fadhgridh Castle (prtg_cas03)

ID is (@mi 1358)

Deviling Rucksack : 2.50%

Blue Imperial Valkyrie Helm : 0.50%

Yggdrasil Red Box 100.00%

Blue Emperium Aurora 2.00%

Flapping Deviling Wings 2.00%

Omen of Tempest 0.80%

Badge of Honor 0.40%

Forsaken Soldier Card 2.00%

2nd ID (@mi 1359) This ID doesn't have Blue Emperium so it makes blue emp rare and cost more than any other emperium. Because all the other castle have 2 ID and both ID drops their Emperium. So blue is still hard to get.

Deviling Rucksack : 2.50%

Forsaken Soldier Card 2.00%

Flapping Deviling Wings 2.00%

Omen of Tempest 0.80%

Badge of Honor 0.40%

Yggdrasil Red Box 100%

If nothing drops, you get only Yggdrasil Red Box. You can get more than 1 drops from 1 treasure. Just low chance.

Here's the ID for

Alde @mi 1326 & @mi 1327.

Payon @mi 1350 & @mi 1351.

Geffen @mi 1334 & @mi 1335.

Check them out for more information.

I am glad that your an honest guild master Perishable.But all guild masters might not necessarily be like you.I still dont see whats wrong with guild members knowing what the treasure chest actually dropped.

A guild master will have a list of loyal members for giving the drops,So even if the guild members get the info about the treasure chest drop they cant ask for it randomly.The guild master can only give the drops depending on the loyalty and members dedication towards the guild.

[Ryuk]

I do not see any reason why this shouldn't be accepted, next to the fact that it's hard to script, if not impossible. In fact I think it would be easier to include a npc in the script so people can talk to the npc and find out what dropped. (however I'm not sure if it's possible to log the treasure drops the way it's suggested in here)

[maxlittle007]

Like GM Ryuk said , a npc is also fine.Its just that the guild members should know what the treasure has dropped by any means possible.

[n i k k o]

Alright

if it can be done then have it done

but it isnt super high but if people are desperate to know then so be it.

all im saying is dont be suprised if something drops and no one is giving it lol

[bankai`]

I agree 100% on the NPC thingy cause I know how it feels like lol and its good to know then not knowing because you don't know what the Guild master will do I wont say any names.

Edited August 26, 2010 by bankai`

[n i k k o]

who are desperate for thier emp auras/gvh etc etc.

being desperate?

i thought this was about loyalty not desperateness.

[maxlittle007]

being desperate?

i thought this was about loyalty not desperateness.

Why shoudnt loyal members be desperate for their reward?Whats wrong with that?They are loyal so they deserve it.

Whats the use of just beign loyal?Their loyalty deserves something better[treasure chest drops].Even if they are loyal,no one would woe for free.

For example if you work in an office very hard,and your loyal to them,But what if they dont give your salary?Ofcourse your loyal,you work very hard and your dedicated,BUT will you be happy if they dont pay your salary?Its the same thing

If people woe for free,they already have the treasure chest drops and they are high equipped with good stuffs already.And besides i specifically mentioned earlier,if people dont want treasure chest drops,they can stay away from this thread.

[n i k k o]

i do want drops hell i help run a guild and i havent horded anything for myself

but being desperate shows that your main goal is only for the drop and not to be loyal.

[maxlittle007]

i do want drops hell i help run a guild and i havent horded anything for myself

but being desperate shows that your main goal is only for the drop and not to be loyal.

I can also say,Guild master[Only certain] hording drops doesnt show they are beign truthful to their members.They just abuse the guild members loyalty for their own benifit.

Why do they even put drops in the treasure chest.Its for rewarding their loyal members.If the woe is just for loyalty,the purpose of adding drops itself becomes pointless.

If players woe for free,thats their own wish,their personal decision shoudnt affect people who want the treasure chest drops.

Edited August 27, 2010 by maxlittle007

[n i k k o]

You dont need to make a suggestion just be straight up

go to your guidl master and be like

Is anything of importance dropping?

hell if someone was loyal and deserved it id tell them like yeah it dropped

but i can see where your coming from

all im gonna say is fit this si created i can expect alot of sad people

[maxlittle007]

You dont need to make a suggestion just be straight up

go to your guidl master and be like

Is anything of importance dropping?

hell if someone was loyal and deserved it id tell them like yeah it dropped

but i can see where your coming from

all im gonna say is fit this si created i can expect alot of sad people

If thats how you prefer things,then so be it,thats your own wish.You have your ways and i have mine.

Besides i think majority of the guild members[who havent got their drops yet] will only support this suggestion.

Edited August 28, 2010 by maxlittle007

[supream]

sometimes the its better to keep the people from knowing everything. what you dont, in this case, cant hurt you.

[maxlittle007]

Yes, letting guild members know what the treasure chest has dropped isnt gonna hurt anyone.

If the guild master is honest with the guild members, he/she have no reason to worry with this suggestion.Only the ones who decides to horde drops have to worry about a suggestion like this[No Offence].

Edited August 29, 2010 by maxlittle007

[Primo]

agreed but in the sense.

You dont need to make a big deal about an npc.

just ask you gm im use they would gladly tell you.