Rayray Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 so what happened to the rule summoned mvps are not free for all?
Veggie&Mac Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 thana_boss map should be like The Endless Tower the party who summoned thana only can get inside to the map.
Justice Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 Summoned MvP's belong COMPLETELY to the summoner. I couldn't agree more with this suggestion. I mean, it takes a lot to summon a Thana with the Fragments and the waiting. And it's just not very fair for someone to work hard to get it, work hard to try to beat it, just to get killed and lose all their work. Challenge..?? Uh, not everyone wants that kind of a "challenge".. I know I wouldn't. It's not fair to lose something you're working for. Sure Thana drops a card VERY rarely. But what if you were KSed and that just so happened to be the time it dropped. I don't think you'd be a happy camper. And whoever's solution to being KSed is to KS back, we'll ban you along with all your fellow KSers when we see it. Wait your turns. They say good things come to those who wait. I agree with the suggestion and I'd very much like to see this approved.
Apo Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Challenge? People sell the fragments in stores and you place them then kill it, I'd understand if the summoning materials were harder to find, untradable and mvp not soloable. But it's not the case here, people can still take over a mvp w/o pk by doing superior damage, which is being done to any camped MvPs out there summoned or not, and we're also talking about the most expensive item on the market, so try to take turns when a whole server is willing to put their hands on it, you can't be selfish and keep everything for yourself just because it was summoned by you, it may not be an appropriate way to KS but its still your responsability to keep MvP on it at all cost, if you hate this KS mess then enable @noks and mod it to work the way you want... Edited June 18, 2010 by Apo
Xtopher Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 It's the law of the fittest, the fittest survive while the weak dies. You gave all the argument to make it a pvp map, rare? Hell yes let's go get this shit right now! Else just about anyone could solo it anytime just like there was nothing to it. So the people that are fully equipped/more experienced in pvp are the only ones that deserve a chance at thanatos card? Yea... thats REALLY going to help the server grow... No offense but it's thought processes like this that make our newer players leave quickly... How about helping someone who need it for once?
Apo Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 Someone who has 1 or 2 thana card doesn't bother hunting it much but that's only those who use them, you also got those who constantly sell them to obtain a unknown amout of coupons for X reason
Veggie&Mac Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 Someone who has 1 or 2 thana card doesn't bother hunting it much but that's only those who use them, you also got those who constantly sell them to obtain a unknown amout of coupons for X reason thats true aposan!!!
Xtopher Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Challenge? People sell the fragments in stores and you place them then kill it, I'd understand if the summoning materials were harder to find, untradable and mvp not soloable. But it's not the case here, people can still take over a mvp w/o pk by doing superior damage, which is being done to any camped MvPs out there summoned or not, and we're also talking about the most expensive item on the market, so try to take turns when a whole server is willing to put their hands on it, you can't be selfish and keep everything for yourself just because it was summoned by you, it may not be an appropriate way to KS but its still your responsability to keep MvP on it at all cost, if you hate this KS mess then enable @noks and mod it to work the way you want... Are you serious? Selfish to keep the MVP YOU spawned? Sounds like a load of crap to me to be honest. Sure, some people buy the requirements to spawn and they're not that hard to collect... But people still have to work and spend time getting them or spend money buying them. How is it right for someone who hasn't spent this time to just walk up and steal 1. YOUR MVP 2. YOUR time/money you spent. 3. YOUR chance at getting a card (which is extremely low to begin with). It just isn't right for some lazy KSer/PKer to take that from you just because they can do a bit more damage or can kill you while you're wearing MVP gear. I don't see how you can defend this kind of behavior. If you want more of a challenge then suggest Thanatos be made harder to kill, but don't defend lazy scum that steals so much from honest players. I don't mean to offend you personally... I just really don't understand your mindset here. Edited June 18, 2010 by Xtopher
Apo Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 It's simple, investing on something doesn't guarentee you success, I haven't been hunting thana for years but back in the days, thana_boss map used to be as worst as a pvp arena at times everyone killing eachother in hope to get the thana, today is a mere joke compared to before but yet today it seems to be the craziest offense ever, the more this server advance the more it becomes a carebear community who whines about just anything that disadvantage them, even for_fild02 was a pvp map back then and you had to warp every 0.5 second not to get killed while hunting your berries, if this keeps up this server will become PvP.
Xtopher Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 It's simple, investing on something doesn't guarentee you success, I haven't been hunting thana for years but back in the days, thana_boss map used to be as worst as a pvp arena at times everyone killing eachother in hope to get the thana, today is a mere joke compared to before but yet today it seems to be the craziest offense ever, the more this server advance the more it becomes a carebear community who whines about just anything that disadvantage them, even for_fild02 was a pvp map back then and you had to warp every 0.5 second not to get killed while hunting your berries, if this keeps up this server will become PvP. Seeing how you say "years" I'm guessing that when you hunted it Thanatos Card had a higher drop rate. These people are hunting the card for a fraction of the rate that you got. There is no "guarantee". In fact it is like 99.9% likely you will not get a card. Add in a couple lazy people who just hang out and KS/PK and you're likelihood of obtaining a card that you've put in decent effort to get will drop to 0. You speak of years ago... I think it's time to move on. In my opinion the server needs to grow, but it will not as long as older players treat newer ones like trash. I prefer a care-bear community over one that promotes people stealing from honest players.
Ultimate Weapon Posted June 18, 2010 Author Report Posted June 18, 2010 u know i would agree with this but due to the campers at thana i need to kill them in order to get a chance to summon thana. I see your point, It would be hard if someone camp to summon or players come at the same time to try to put all fragments to summon thana, what do you suggest?
Wish Posted June 19, 2010 Report Posted June 19, 2010 This suggestion has come up before and was rejected because people didn't like that they wouldn't be able to defend their mob. Say a party of people come on the map when you're trying to solo it. Then you're one against many. Or even say...you're playing sniper and a more powerful sniper/better built sniper for Thana MvPing comes along. You can't kill them, either. It goes two ways. This way, you can always call on friends to help you kill a killstealer. Plus, if the element changes at around 40% HP (according to RMS), all you have to do if a champ comes along is respawn and warp to the map and let them finish it for you. Since you got it down over 50%, you're fine. Are you sure that it would be better overall to disable PvP on the map?
Cirrus Posted June 19, 2010 Report Posted June 19, 2010 Eh, Thanatos is covered by the rules on Kill-Stealing. But my thoughts are exactly with Wish on the matter.
Perishable Posted June 19, 2010 Report Posted June 19, 2010 Eh, Thanatos is covered by the rules on Kill-Stealing. But my thoughts are exactly with Wish on the matter.
bankai` Posted June 22, 2010 Report Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) Lol everyone fighting for no reason when there is already a rule set on for no ks on Thanatos just report if that happens.There should also be a big writing above your screen when you warp saying " you will be banned for one week for ksing thanatos" since this is such a huge problem and trust me who ever does warp there won't ks again muahaha! Edited June 22, 2010 by bankai`
Ultimate Weapon Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Posted June 22, 2010 Lol everyone fighting for no reason when there is already a rule set on for no ks on Thanatos just report if that happens.There should also be a big writing above your screen when you warp saying " you will be banned for one week for ksing thanatos" since this is such a huge problem and trust me who ever does warp there won't ks again muahaha! What happen when several players come and kill me over and over but no gm is online, I would get sick and tire of coming back to kill thana, and while i warp to return, thanatos would not be in 1 place, even If i ss those player, it doesn't proove them killing me. This suggestion has come up before and was rejected because people didn't like that they wouldn't be able to defend their mob. Say a party of people come on the map when you're trying to solo it. Then you're one against many. Or even say...you're playing sniper and a more powerful sniper/better built sniper for Thana MvPing comes along. You can't kill them, either. It goes two ways. This way, you can always call on friends to help you kill a killstealer. Plus, if the element changes at around 40% HP (according to RMS), all you have to do if a champ comes along is respawn and warp to the map and let them finish it for you. Since you got it down over 50%, you're fine. Are you sure that it would be better overall to disable PvP on the map? If a better players with beter equip that does more damage come and hit thana too, it should be easy for the summoner to ss them since the summoner can't die by players if it is a non pvp map. I die by ganger while trying to kill thana, I was tired of coming back and forth and that time no gm was online and ss those players wouldn't proove they kill me and by the time i come back how can i ss the one killing thana that was using a champ that time when it's hp is under 90 mil? It happen to my friend too but i don't know if he a ticket, since he didn't ss putting the fragment in
Veracity Posted September 2, 2010 Report Posted September 2, 2010 I'm not going to accept/reject this suggestion yet, I'd like it if more people could discuss this in light of Wish's comment. While a majority of people have agreed to have pvp disabled on this map, would you still want this even if it means you can't defend your summon?
nines Posted September 2, 2010 Report Posted September 2, 2010 OR OR. SIMPLE IDEA. TAKE A SCREEN SHOT OF THE KSER? pvp off would make it only easir to kill steal....they can put dmg in the whole time without you stoping them or having a friend stop them. Deny this please veracity lol
bankai` Posted September 2, 2010 Report Posted September 2, 2010 You're not the only one who wants thana, its an MvP just like any others, why would thana be safe while TG/Kiel isn't? Because you gotta summon it? I don't think so. Disagree Lmao so defensive.
Veracity Posted January 6, 2011 Report Posted January 6, 2011 For the time being, this is going to be rejected. However, this may be changed in the future. I think the best course of action is to screenshot and report if someone is KSing your thanatos. - Rejected -