Guild Hideout Buffs Too Op!

[Cirrus]

I believe the point of the guild hideout was to give the guild members an edge in PVP and WOE, and just for all around PK-ing fun.

So yes, they should be able to go outside with buffs on, which is why toning down the buffs (Cirrus' idea) is the one I agree with.

You don't pay over 1300 coupons just to sit around on chairs with buffs on.

Exactly what Kittie said. It's enough advantage to spend some extra coupons on. If you're hardcore PvP-ers these buffs would make you... really really tough to kill.

Edited June 5, 2010 by Cirrus

[Poringly]

Guild hideout Disguise NPC's turnin you into a Monster NPC wtf?

For some reason, I cant target the disguise ppl when i was pvp-in. .__.

P.s : *I think o-o*, Not really sure thou. x.x

Edited June 5, 2010 by Poringly

[Xtopher]

I believe the point of the guild hideout was to give the guild members an edge in PVP and WOE, and just for all around PK-ing fun.

So yes, they should be able to go outside with buffs on, which is why toning down the buffs (Cirrus' idea) is the one I agree with.

You don't pay over 1300 coupons just to sit around on chairs with buffs on.

Sure, if they pay a price they should get an advantage. But this shouldn't be a hindrance on every other player's game experience. I will straight quit if the guild that owns the hide out gets too much of an advantage in pvp/woe and I don't think I'll be the only one... if these players are getting classes specific buffs that do not belong to their class its just plain unfair.

[~*God Of War*~]

nerf the buffs, make there ability to disguise be put to use only in guild hideout :<

or at least make it so if they are in disguise they cannot atk :3

[Perishable]

Ridiculous; the buff aren't overpowered. They just give you buff automatic so you don't have to alt client and do all those buffs on yourself. Which is why I bid 3333 for it. I'm lazy to use all those buffs. Like seriously, bid and get the hideout for yourself an you'll see. If stuff gets nerf, then what's the point of mking Guild Hideout and removing all those stuff. There is no EDP Buff. Guild Hideout is suppose to be fun and stuff like like. Just shut up and stop complaining. I wouldn't spend 3333 Donation Coupon for something that woudnt do the stuff that this Hideout is doing right now. I like it the way it is.

Plus, all those buffs doesn't even add up to a gopell with 2x attack. They're weaker but has more stuff than that like Link, Kaizel, etc.. Stop complaining, let something stay the way it is for once.

Well as you guys know there is Guild Hideout now in this server.

Any guild that claimed guild emblem by biding the most dqs will own it for certain of times.

Now theres a char will full buffs from God Speed guild. He just did 400k each dmg with TSS...

Imagine what would happen in WoE. I must say it will be no fun anymore...

They will own practically everyone in laddering,WoE.

This is to Over powered. Please reconsider it.

Impossible to do 400k damage with TSS. For your information, it was 40k. That's because someone was wearing 2x Deviling and Katar and went SB + tao + gr. To Survive champ and sb but then we TSS them. LRN2PLAY.

Edited June 5, 2010 by Perishable

[supream]

all you gota do is take out the increase all stat buffs and party buffs. that will make it better i think. also can u attack the people disguised?

[Ethereal]

all you gota do is take out the increase all stat buffs and party buffs. that will make it better i think. also can u attack the people disguised?

I heard that you can't attack players if they're disguised as NPCs; but if the player disguises as a monster, then the player is able to be hit.

[Memory]

Perishable does have a point in this matter. I believe if you owned the hideout you wouldn't be saying these things, even if you would there is one point no one has mentioned. Dispell. One skill that any class has the ability to use (Drooping Valk) takes them away. (Not sure if all, but I know most are) To stop that they would have to wear GTB which gives champions and SinX a perfect chance to hit them for massive damage. It's only been available for less than 24 hours and you're all shouting for nerfs. I say give it time.

Not to mention the ridiculous price they had to pay. It started out as 1350, then jumped to over 3k, since posts were deleted. That advantage is worth the price in my opinion.

Edited June 5, 2010 by Memory

[-R e i]

I heard that you can't attack players if they're disguised as NPCs; but if the player disguises as a monster, then the player is able to be hit.

When I first tried the Disguise NPC.. I was attack by some weird assassin in LHZ, and died.

You > Get hit by other people.

You > Get hit by other people in disguise.

You > ARE GOING TO DIE.

[Elimination]

Guys Genesis changed the Disguise npc because they were abusing it and crap. They can only change disguise in there Guilde Hideout ONLY

[supream]

they havent fixed that yet. i dont think it should give class buffs like improve con and falcon eyes. just buffs that can be cast on other players. also just cause u have more money then someone else dosent mean u should get perks that gives u a incredibly unfair advantage against everyone else.

Edited June 6, 2010 by supream

[Rayray]

I agree on what Cirrus said though. BUT the buffer is not that OP since only the Guild Master can summon his members there. In WoE, you wouldn't summon them there everytime they need a buff. It is faster to just have a buff slave character and buff them everytime they die, and if you summon them to the hideout, it will take precious time and others might be able to break already(like in geffen castle where the emp breaks almost every minute) If you are not the guild master, you cannot abuse it everytime you die or get dispelled in pvp. Dispell makes it useless, let us agree on that, but if it gives buffs that cannot be dispelled(EDP and FCP) then that just gives them an edge. Specific class buffs might make a difference on pvp, yes but EDP doesn't last that long anyway, and it is easy to get FCP without the buffer.

People might be thinking that "EDP AV is OP" or "EDP Asura" or "EDP Matyr" but as I a said, EDP doesn't last that long and it is too much of a hassle to buff everytime. EDP Asura can be countered by using ONE OL to be honest.. Matyr can be dispelled.. i don't know AV though :( If you hate them so much, gang them.. might not be your style but killing them ONCE will make the buffs go away anyway.

[Memory]

You are sadly mistaken. The NPC doesn't give EDP or FCP.

Edited June 6, 2010 by Memory

[Elimination]

Hmmm well after attending woe today I now disagree with the buffs being op. Yes they do get like 30 buffs but it's not too op. You can still kill them..

[Perishable]

Wow. You guys are ridiculous; The BUFF NPC IS NOTHING. Even if we have full buff, you can kill us still. Stop complaining like you can't kill us. You guys already know how to counter it. Use valkyrie randgris. Gosh, lrn2fuckin' play a game for once. If I don't lag and I can speed asura like before, I'd always pvp in forfild with it. I aways run because i'm scared to die, cz I lag and I don't even get mad like you people. I see alot of haters already. Having alot of coupons doesn't mean your rich. Do I have alot of coupons? No; You can even ask Genesis. They can log on my account and check. We bid that high because of guildies pitched in coupons to get it. And Elimination is correct; even he sees it. YOU CAN KILL US and why are you complaining? Damn. We aren't even that good. Lol people these day. Ask your friends, guildies, whoever. And save up coupon. just bid for the Hideout next time. Just do you, and let us be us.

[-R e i]

*speechless* /heh

[Perishable]

And thank you to all those that understand. It's not even OP. It's just a new thing you have to counter. For example, Asura strike, you need ghostring to go against it. Buffs; dispell. This is Forsaken RO. Unlike every other server. Forsaken FTW. Deal with it.

[xBiscuit]

Hey, instead of doing me. Can I do you? :3

auhehehe.

I don't even think half the server knew the bidding was going on.

[Elimination]

Wow. You guys are ridiculous; The BUFF NPC IS NOTHING. Even if we have full buff, you can kill us still. Stop complaining like you can't kill us. You guys already know how to counter it. Use valkyrie randgris. Gosh, lrn2fuckin' play a game for once. If I don't lag and I can speed asura like before, I'd always pvp in forfild with it. I aways run because i'm scared to die, cz I lag and I don't even get mad like you people. I see alot of haters already. Having alot of coupons doesn't mean your rich. Do I have alot of coupons? No; You can even ask Genesis. They can log on my account and check. We bid that high because of guildies pitched in coupons to get it. And Elimination is correct; even he sees it. YOU CAN KILL US and why are you complaining? Damn. We aren't even that good. Lol people these day. Ask your friends, guildies, whoever. And save up coupon. just bid for the Hideout next time. Just do you, and let us be us.

there there no need to rage...xD jks, but yes he is true stop complaining noob u pay for what u get deal with it

[Perishable]

Hey, instead of doing me. Can I do you? :3

auhehehe.

I don't even think half the server knew the bidding was going on.

But then... everyone in the server will know i'm a little girl.. so uhhh okie, 101 school street?

[xBiscuit]

But then... everyone in the server will know i'm a little girl.. so uhhh okie, 101 school street?

I heard there was a private bedroom in the guild hideout.

Let's go there instead.

And who cares if they know you're a little girl.

(;

[-R e i]

D: You guys are going off-topic.

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If only... I was in your guild.. lol just kidding XP

[ginkgo]

First for all of you spewing dispel like its a magical cure for everything Gtb blocks it! you can gtb all the way to the emp.

When you use GTb with it its pretty unfair.

[Elimination]

First for all of you spewing dispel like its a magical cure for everything Gtb blocks it! you can gtb all the way to the emp.

When you use GTb with it its pretty unfair.

then just kill them normally its not that hard...

[Sorrow]

So they've gotten a Priest/WS NPC...big deal. Anyone can still double account...

The guild hideout HAS to have palpable advantages your know, they paid a massive ammount of coupons for that.

And no, i'm not part of that guild xP