Masahiro Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) this is not a very important suggestion in long-sight of the recent requests by Gms for ideas to help with new Woe/Gvg customs and suggestions but i would like to suggest officially in forums and not in-game an @hatred/opposition reset command be either created or implemented. i think this alone will allow for a more diverse choice in playable characters in game as Star Glad is a really good class when it wants to be, but is limited in the way that its best buff skill (commented on to be a mini edp) is only usable once, and targets one class for the entire duration of that characters existence. just like ninjas should have infinite stones, as GS and Archer class have infinite ammunition, Star Glads should also get some attention once in a while. there is already an @feelreset command, so all im suggesting is for the complimentary @hatred reset command to exist as well your thoughts on this fro community and Gms. Thanks in advance Edited May 18, 2010 by Masahiro
Supreme Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 I agree, and I would even suggest to remove the hatred limit. Star glad is the (probably) one class that you will not see PvPing or even being used. Sounds good, micro suggestions like these help to slowly increase the class balance in our server.
Ryuk Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 Btw with the hatred skill on a player you select the class, not the character. As for the suggestion, I think removing the hatred cap ( I know it's possible not sure how exactly though) is worth a try, would be fun to see more of the underused classes around.
Superman^* Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 You mean hatred on players? No thanks. Will be super duper OP with it, better than gospel atk buffs.
Supreme Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) You mean hatred on players? No thanks. Will be super duper OP with it, better than gospel atk buffs. EDP on a sinx yields a lot more damage than hatred on a Star Glad would, very far from op. It also seems that you are confused, SGs have always been able to use hatred on players. Edited May 18, 2010 by Supreme
Masahiro Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Posted May 18, 2010 yah exactly, i used my SG as a demonstration in for fild already and it is powerful with hatred but NOT OP u cant just demolish a field or even a character FSK is ranged and pnuema can block it, and final strike deals more damage and to get the real damage from FSK u need to use sprint, so u cant even spam it in an awsm way, it'd b slower than asura, and asura is already 100x more powerful. lol i know my Sg intimately. i already have an account with only SGs and have hatred on every class, so i dnt really care im suggesting this for every1 else who isnt as idle as me and want to use a class thats currently under-used
bankai` Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 shit load hp, decent geard and no limit on hatred? i think that's OP because some dude did 25k each using flying kick and i was geard so yea
Masahiro Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) LOLOl TKs hae a shitload of hp with their tk ranking quest, 3x hp for them SG...has no bonus lol and more over fsk is 3x hit so 25k a hit is 75 k....wow SOOOO OP...amazing lol did u drop? lol my asura hits for 220k lol nd u cant pnuema it ^ ^ Edit: ok closer to 200 on normal resists, but the 20 is emphasis =D Edited May 18, 2010 by Masahiro
Supreme Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) shit load hp, decent geard and no limit on hatred? i think that's OP because some dude did 25k each using flying kick and i was geard so yea You are referring to Taekwons, whom do have a "shit load hp". Star gladiators do not. It's the contrary actually, the SG hp mod is pretty bad. Edited May 18, 2010 by Supreme
bankai` Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 You are referring to Taekwons, whom do have a "shit load hp". Star gladiators do not. It's the contrary actually, the SG hp mod is pretty bad. whoaa dang i keep getting those two classes mix up, yea they do need a little hp boost but hatred dont need a boost
Terroryst Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 SGs have a terrible HP mod lol. I agree to this. Technically, you kind of CAN reset your hatred I think with the @feelreset but that requires a lot of unnecessary work just to fight another class. I'm not sure if you still can though. SG definitely isn't OP though lol.
bankai` Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 SGs have a terrible HP mod lol. I agree to this. Technically, you kind of CAN reset your hatred I think with the @feelreset but that requires a lot of unnecessary work just to fight another class. I'm not sure if you still can though. SG definitely isn't OP though lol. agree
supream Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 i just wish i knew how to make their kicks do more dmg.
Masahiro Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) yeah the HP mod is atrocious and Lol i know how to make them hurt, ive already demonstrated, just its NOT op i swear, sinxs will do more damage overall from melee to Sb and sbk even grimtooth spam. also, with @feelreset you can only reset the feeling maps, even with Miracle and the dori dori trick they are still limited to the feeling maps..hatred according to the skill as it is, cannot be reset period its a one cast ever type skill that targets a specific monster/player class for..ever.... lol and also this has already been done on other servers, ive heard about it and read about it on other random server forums, with similar rates to ours so. the question isnt about it becoming OP, just will it become. furthermore this is gang proof, if the SG in question wants to pvp an LK he needs to use all his oppositions on the LK, and if a sinx comes along and fights with the LK, theres not much that the SG can do short of trying to finish off the LK, then reset hatred, re-target the sinx and then go like that. it'll still be a lot of work, but im just saying give them the chance, as it is its a SGs worst nightmare to step foot into an LMS. because lets face it without hatred, Sg's damage is rock bottom. Edited May 19, 2010 by Masahiro
zac Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 just allow hatred reset. would involve some script duh, but anyway. i dont see how op. dont remove the cap but allow reset. you can only have hatred on 1 char at a time or was it 3. not sure but theres still a limit. maybe in the script of the command add a cool down aswell... >@hatredreset "hatred characters removed" *2 seconds later* >@hatredreset "must wait 10 minutes before using this command again" why not ??? seems fine with me
Masahiro Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Ll thers 3 types of hatred for ea, sun moon and stars. so technically u can oppose 3 different classes for each, but n.b each hatred day is different e.g day of the sun, day of the moon and day of the stars..they each give different effects, otherwise i agree with the above post.. well i dnt rly find waiting 10 mins to use it again is a good idea, u may not even live 10 mins in most situations. Edited May 19, 2010 by Masahiro
supream Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 why not take away the special days so u can use any heat or hatred skill whenever u want.
Masahiro Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) naw well u cant do that, cuz then THAT wud b op if the e.g the sun and stars overlap its rly strong on that day and worse if its everyday, theres an unknown skill called miracle that does that already, but its an off skill and works randomly but that is op. miracle has an epically low chance to cast, by simple things like walking, hitting another player etc, the screen turns blue like SL effect, and it comes off if u warp or die etc. More-so that would like mess with the class 2 much, but hatred is already in existance we're not asking for a nurf or a buff, just implementation so there can be more versatility in using the ONE character, and not 20 xD Edited May 19, 2010 by Masahiro
Veracity Posted August 29, 2010 Report Posted August 29, 2010 This is not possible at this time. - Rejected -