SithKnight Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 Just wondering if it's possible to improve some of the old items. Like the following: Dragon/Sun/Moon Aura *remember when people used to own with this before all the emps* At least improve the stats it adds? Old Pvp Ladder Wings - Green Mythological Wings and Ice Wings * Looking and used to go for like 1k qpons* Some specific +stats? Just a suggestion free to comment. ^_^
Centurion Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 Just wondering if it's possible to improve some of the old items. Like the following: Dragon/Sun/Moon Aura *remember when people used to own with this before all the emps* At least improve the stats it adds? Old Pvp Ladder Wings - Green Mythological Wings and Ice Wings * Looking and used to go for like 1k qpons* Some specific +stats? Just a suggestion free to comment. ^_^ I think this is gonna be interesting. I agree.
Ethereal Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 Agreed as well, now you need to suggest some stats to improve the items.
bankai` Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 lmao this will make people with Moon aura etc.. richer depend on the boost ^^
supream Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 these items were here so that people who start out can have items that dont do much but they can offord. increasing stuff on it will increase price not making it offordable to people just starting.
zac Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 moon aura and sun aura 18 to all atats and 5 % more hp and 4 % more sp lol
Apo Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 B> Sun Aura/Moon Aura[500] ea, oh wait wong post. Emp is 20 stats permanently, while Auras are 15 during a specific time of the day, but an inncrease in stats will easily make it an emp replacement which will increase its value further
zac Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 emp is 25 buddy. so nothing is wrong with it being a little higher in stat. these are olddd items, and like you said only a specific time of the day can they be used therefore you need both moon and sun. theys why i say 18 to all stats and a little hp and sp boost why not ? fbh is permenant 20, and emp is permenant 25.. while moon and sun is 15 day and 15 night. also the topic is on the old pvp ladder wings, they need an effect because its not fair that the new pvp ladder wings are pwnage and people who pvped in the past have lame pretty wings.
Apo Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 I don't see why moon/sun aura should get a buff but not myth aura and lhz aura, concidering they are all items of the same class. The only thing I agree with is the useless pvp ladder items such as myth and ice wings, they should have conciderable pvp boosts like all the others
Poringly Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 I agree , I think the point of doing this boost is to help the newbs(Sry) Or at least ppl that cant afford buyin Emp aura. So this might help em a bit while they're working hard on their Emp aura.
zac Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 the topic is not soley about the sun and moon asura , but about old items... alot of items have since become obsolete , due to newer releases. these items have been useful when first released and now are not as useful. just agreeing to revising old items and maybe adjusting their stats to be comparable to the newer items.
Groxy Drank Posted May 17, 2010 Report Posted May 17, 2010 (edited) I agree... Some of the old stuff really need a buff not just Sun and Moon aura but like the Old quest hats like Baby leopard for example... make some old things to come back to be used, and not just for good looking but for PvP or something else. Edited May 17, 2010 by Rangdyrok
Forum~ Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 D aura +10 all stats Dragon Aura is pretty difficult to get for only +5 all stats. Make it decent. Keep the Sun/Moon Aura stats, Add like 5% hp boost or something. The only thing I agree with is the useless pvp ladder items such as myth and ice wings, they should have conciderable pvp boosts like all the others Completely agree with this.
Masahiro Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) Just wondering if it's possible to improve some of the old items. Like the following: Dragon/Sun/Moon Aura *remember when people used to own with this before all the emps* At least improve the stats it adds? Old Pvp Ladder Wings - Green Mythological Wings and Ice Wings * Looking and used to go for like 1k qpons* Some specific +stats? Just a suggestion free to comment. ^_^ Man wow i 100% completely agree with this suggestion, idc what any1 else says, Emperium will still be on top with +25 to all stats even if in a wild way u made everything else +20 which is not what im saying to do, but i seriously do thing these novelty items can use a boost, the disparity among players is far too great, the f.set items and emp items make the higher end players too dominant over new players, im not saying that they should make some of the lower end gear too great because that may get players in a rut where they dont want to work for anything and other stuff, but i find they can use a boost e.g to the D.aura like others suggest above me and sun and moon and other items like Amistr and other Nd hats so, when someone sees someone with a quest hat, they dont assume hes KOS material, and be a little more cautious who they pvp and how callously they do it Edit: i think this will boost server popularity where people will get word of mouth that not only are dona-table items accessible but u can start NEW on this server and still b able to hold your own in a pvp environment without having to wait a year full of hard work to become mediocre. (n.b people with emp and other higher end items will still hav an edge, but NOT an advantage. pvp should be any man's game, the person with the greater skill, not greater gear..) i 100% agree to this suggestion. Edited May 18, 2010 by Masahiro
Kittie Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 I 100% disagree. The older aura's such as the Dragon/Sun/Moon aura as well as the Mythological Flame auras all have their class of "mediocrity" or even "newbie-ness" if you prefer that term. They are less powerful than emperium auras, thus holding lesser value, which means they are more affordable. There needs to be a progression of equipment from when you start out to when you become a veteran of a server and these items serve that purpose. You can't "upgrade" these items, or else they should increase in price, otherwise you'll have something that has the same effect as an emperium aura for 35 event coupons which is easily obtainable. With that in mind, the donation coupon prices for these items will significantly increase, causing new players to complain about not being able to afford custom equipment. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that is far easier for a new player to begin with a dragon aura or sun/moon aura and then work his/her way up to an emperium aura. As far as the PVP Ladder Wings prizes go, I'm against upgrading those as well. They've had their time as aesthetic items and they don't need a value increase any time soon. If you bought it at 1000 coupons, then you need to move on - you spent it for aesthetic value back then (since they had no effect anyways at 1000 coupons) so you don't deserve to magically have a new effect for your old wings. If that were the case, flapping wings would have effects too! Since they sold for thousands of coupons back in the day as well. You paid for an item for how it looked and its rarity. It still looks the same, and still is fairly rare. Why expect an effect change a year from when you bought it?
Groxy Drank Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 I dont find whats the point of paying 60 eqpons or 60-80 dqpons buying a sun and moon aura that gives just 15+ all stats if you can just take 30 days voting and get an FBH aura that gives +20 all stats. And i think that includes the dragon aura thats not such an easy quest and that just gives +5 all stats. But lets face it this topic is not just for the day/moon/dragon auras its of all the old items that are just "useless and pitiful" this days.
Hannah Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 I agree with this. I think Sun & Moon Auras should give more than just +15 all stats. I dont find whats the point of paying 60 eqpons or 60-80 dqpons buying a sun and moon aura that gives just 15+ all stats if you can just take 30 days voting and get an FBH aura that gives +20 all stats. Aren't Sun & Moon Auras about 15 D.Coupons/35 E.Coupons each? And I see some people even selling both for about 10 D.Coupons.
Masahiro Posted May 18, 2010 Report Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) i really want a suggestion like this to get passed, it would balance out players rich and poor on this server more, and give lower end geared players a chance to pvp. Players with f.set and emp etc will still have the EDGE but not the ADVANTAGE like they do now, their odds of survival will increase with buffing these type of items, and it would encourage them to work harder to limit the edge other players have on them or eliminate it entirely. this way pvp would become more interesting instead of the boring pvp every1 accuses it to be lately. word will spread and more ppl will flood into our servers, because we would be a server where everything is accessible, from donation items though hard work, to the ability to jump into the game and with SKILL find a niche to improve on, through either donating, or working hard. im not saying make it TOO close, so that players wont bother to work hard to get items, or cease to donate anymore, but a slight boost like the topic starter is suggesting can lead to improved server morale, and more fun times. I 100% disagree. The older aura's such as the Dragon/Sun/Moon aura as well as the Mythological Flame auras all have their class of "mediocrity" or even "newbie-ness" if you prefer that term. They are less powerful than emperium auras, thus holding lesser value, which means they are more affordable. With that in mind, the donation coupon prices for these items will significantly increase, causing new players to complain about not being able to afford custom equipment. on this note i disagree because those items such as dragon aura are questable and even if in-game prices go up to people who are lazy to quest, OTHERS will have something to do, and work towards a more meaningful endeavor than spending 2 dqpns for a d.aura that would be the equivalent of a huge KICK ME SIGN on your back on the flip side, say the cost of dqpns does rise, it would not be anything significant to crash the servers economy and it would more over have a benefit effect whereby more people donate more for donatable items, and for pure dqpns just to buy said items instead of disregarding it completely or not donating at all.... i will never in my lifetime see a d.aura rise to 50 dqpns even if u make it +15 to +18 to all stats. Edited May 18, 2010 by Masahiro
Terroryst Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 I disagree that auras should be boosted. However, I do agree on the fact that other older items should be boosted, such as the older PvP wings, the flapping deviling wings, suke hats, ghostring hats, etc.
Perishable Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Think about the newbies. Boosting all those can help the newbies, ya'know? Newbies are the best part of this Game. We're all humans. <3 Forsaken-RO.
Groxy Drank Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Think about the newbies. Boosting all those can help the newbies, ya'know? Newbies are the best part of this Game. We're all humans. <3 Forsaken-RO. Help the newbies <3... Somdie for president :D!
Masahiro Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Think about the newbies. Boosting all those can help the newbies, ya'know? Newbies are the best part of this Game. We're all humans. <3 Forsaken-RO. Help the newbies <3... Somdie for president :D! ZOMG <3 Somdara for President. Randy for Minster of Defense/finance/awsmness =O Myself for N00b Rights Activist of the year =] /head N00b Edited May 19, 2010 by Masahiro
zac Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 boost them old items. it will improve the quality of the game... heck id even make a noob char and use these items only for fun. :D
Ethereal Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Now that I read over the topic, I kind of agree and disagree with the suggestion. I disagree with boosting up items like the sun/moon aura (although they could definitely use a sprite change). In a game, they don't just start off giving you the best equipment right away or have it easily obtained. In most cases, you have to work for the best gears. So I think that the moon/sun aura fall into a category where they are simply mediocre gear- and you have to work from there in order to get better ones. Although, I do agree with upgrading the old PvP wings that nobody wants now.
