ahweng Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 GM.. Can GM allow us to @WARP BEFORE 2 SECOND!? This is IRRITATING for us to hunt for item... please.
geldaz Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 No ,no and no.People keeped abusing warp for kill other players.As simple as that.
Arcane Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 When there was no delay, we had some advantages and Disadvantages. Now that there is a 2-second delay, same.
Gilgamesh Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 I said I don't get the point of this thread. It doesn't make sense so its pointless.
Arcane Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 ^the point? uh...She's voicing out her opinion.Thats the point.
Lonely September Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 i like the cancel of the delay of the @warp. It let us can kill those annoying warper. But the warpers are still annoying if we cant kill them in 1 hit or they jus keep warp there to spam skill after they respawn after dead. Another thing is the canceled delay make us hard to hunt items or mvp~~~ So my suggestion is tat we jus specific some place to canceled the delay or even make it must wait for few seconds to have another warp... [hope any gm can give a comment for my suggestion]
Devil Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 I suggest to cancel the 2 seconds delay. It is now too hard to hunt those MVP in LHZ and Valkyrie Rangris. when you respawn they will automatically attack you. And the worst is, when you warp and lagged, you will surely find your character dead. =D @geldaz Kill other players? Like how? If they are using them to kill you, then use it too to protect your self.
» Pat Posted January 5, 2008 Report Posted January 5, 2008 This is IRRITATING for us to hunt for item... Back to basics! Use Flywings.
Arcane Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 Back to basics! Use Flywings. LOL. I so agree with you there.
Grim Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 LOL. I so agree with you there. Motion seconded. I'm going to start a Fly Wing market; and, if the GMs ever stop @warp altogether, a Butterfly Wing market! x]
Sapphirel Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 with or without warp sounds fine to me. Does it even matter? The delay of course automatically drove those warp abusers to hell /gg And when I said warp abusers, I meant: 1. MVP warp out abusers 2. PVP warp kill abusers 3. Farm warp abusers So I guess I'd vote for not removing the delay. /no1
Arcane Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 lol. It's fine just the way it is now. we can cope up right?
Genesis Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 All MvPs are killable, without any donation gear and with or without the delay. The Only thing that has changed is that now @warp spammers can be killed. If you want to hunt for MvP use fly wings they are faster than @warping, if you hotkey them. We have not ruined any class ( Since when was @warp a necessity?), if anything we have improved the balance between them.
Genesis Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 So having Elite items is a wrong thing now? I'll make a video of it later today. =]
kril Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 i agree with devil the 2 second thing is annoying becuase like devil said i was in bio3 killing the mvp and as soon as i come im dead its like hard as hell to kill like that.
Denzel Crocker Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 This new warp thing is stupid, I warp to lhz_dun03 and by the time i load, i am dead.. but of course "this was put in to stop warp abusers".. well good going, because now there is a new way to abuse @warp. during WoE i warped to pay_gld 138 158, and when the screen cleard up, i wad dead.. Influence memebrs were camping there.. makes it almost impossible to get in the castle.. I understand the @warp was changed so that it works ever 2 seconds, but WHY did you take away the immunity after warping!? its stupid!!. make @warp work ever 4 seconds, and BRING BACK THE "immunity" so that we still have time to actually see our surroundings before we get killed. anyone that argues against me, GO TRY IT YOURSELF first.
Denzel Crocker Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 are you honestly going against me dama? you honestly think my idea is dumb? Gravity put in the "Immunity" after warping, because of slow computers/lag, and to give players time to react! high rate servers gave normal players @warp, which allowed people to abuse it, the best way to fix that is NOT TO TAKE AWAY immunity, that just down right stupid. keep immunity, and change the @warp to 4 seconds. the way i mention above, gets rid of all known abuses, AND prevents the new ones.
Damascus Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 Why not then, Keep the 2 second, keep the immunity, LOCK the players in place until the immunity is done and leave them immobile basically but give them a view of whats going on, and then unlock them and take the immunity away etc.. at the same time.
Denzel Crocker Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 thats fine with me, all i really want is the immunity! it is important! it was put there for a reason.
Zeitgeist Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 no i mean i dont have it LOL so show me u can kill it without the elite items for champ. well without ur super gm powers. all fairly please Name a MvP and a class and I'll do it. are you honestly going against me dama? you honestly think my idea is dumb? Gravity put in the "Immunity" after warping, because of slow computers/lag, and to give players time to react! high rate servers gave normal players @warp, which allowed people to abuse it, the best way to fix that is NOT TO TAKE AWAY immunity, that just down right stupid. keep immunity, and change the @warp to 4 seconds. the way i mention above, gets rid of all known abuses, AND prevents the new ones. You could, at least, try to warp where they were not camping.
Genesis Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 If you look at the required specs ( and meet them) to be able to play RO you will not need the 5 second delay once you have warped into a map, to stop the "Abuse" and "Lack of consideration" on our part we are making the immunity 1.5 seconds thats a full second more, note we will not increase it by more, if your computer specs do not meet the ones required by Gravity use your common sense, and warp a few steps away from your destination. This will be implemented tomorrow along with other updates. PS: Devil, they did not do it to protect themselves solely, they also did it to attack you while warping.
phantomspirit Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 Personally I dislike about the 2 sec. delay not because the PVP reason but farming. I know this is a PK server so players who are into that have their ways of finding loopholes in the systems. MVP is the same but it's less likely to have people spamming warp command on MVP since most people I saw MVPing were pretty much focusing their power on MVP/other players and not much on warping. I tested out the flywings and they're definitely a lot faster and we can spam warping without delay. As I saw someone mention, why not putting the delay thing in certain areas or just take it out altogether, maybe in maps where you see MVPs or PvP or something. I use the warping for easy travel purposes and protecting myself from instant attackers on maps, not so much on using it for MVPs or PKers.
