Sorrow Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 Seriously, it's been over an year of waiting for us(magic users) for the consolation prize after the GTB fiasco =/ We all got promissed that the magic classes would get a hand if GTB wasn't going to be changed. Its been quite some time, and not only it didn't happen, but also, no updates on the subject, and like...this is kind of important. At this rate RO Renewal will be here faster than the so called help ={ PS; didn't post this on rants because i do think this is a serious question about the environment of our so estimated FRO. Gen...answer plissss? >.<
Sensation Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 http://forum.forsaken-ro.net/index.php?showtopic=14861 People have chance to give their input, though barely any is given. Releasing items without asking the public leads to rants, asking the public leads to nothing or barely anything, so who's to blame on that part? And GTB will have a revision, but fixing current NPCs and creating new content is a bit higher on the ''todo list' than a card that works correctly, but disables an amount of classes to be as effective as they want to be.
Sorrow Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Posted October 15, 2009 i for instance didn't see that topic XD maybe some enforcement in game could be done, not much...maybe one daily broadcast in game could do the trick in catching player's attentions Sen ;3 "Would you like to play an underated class? Your favorite class is overwhelmed by some iten we cannot change? Visit the foruns and help us better equip the oppressed classes and come up with ideas to help them so we can maybe one distant day in the long unpredictable future reach the ever dreamt balance!" LOLolL Anyho, i agree that new content is something important, but this is something that was promissed too long ago and is needed, badly. Kill off GTB! >: how i'd love that...
tyrantlu Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) GTB is fine the way it is, i mean even without gtb wizys kinda suck at pvp... sorry its the truth. dont cry pvp with another class, bc a lot of people need the gtb when you kill mvps. dont nerf it and mess up everyone else bc of a few people. Edited October 16, 2009 by tyrantlu
Sorrow Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Posted October 16, 2009 GTB is fine the way it is i don't think so. And this isn't a "you think GTB is fine?" thread. It's a question about something that was promised long ago and wasn't resolved as of yet. i mean even without gtb wizys kinda suck at pvp... sorry its the truth. finaly someone who understands...some people are afraid to death of wizzies with no GTB around would become Gods. You have my respect for not being one of these. dont cry pvp with another class, bc a lot of people need the gtb when you kill mvps. This is a PK/PvP server, Pvp is an aspect that needs top attention here, a lot of customs have +or- Demi-human modificators based exactly on this. Besides MvPing is minor issue in regards of GTB, it is useful in such scenario only to protect against coma. dont nerf it and mess up everyone else bc of a few people. Sorry but you don't seem well informed of the situation, there was a pool last year to determine wether or not GTB should be nerfed, with over 150 voters, the pool was won by the "not nerf it" side by only 2 votes of difference, so it's not just a few people, it's almost half(49,9%) of the community =/ Of course...by now i think not many of those who wanted GTB out remain loyal to the server, but i still do. But, don't worry, they said GTB isn't going to be changed, i'm just asking for the promised "..or something"
tyrantlu Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) ok i dont care if they nerf it in pvp and woe or between players but for mvp and leveling its awsome. especially in lhz when your just starting to lvl it really helps. i understand its a pk server but you still level up and mvp too Edited October 16, 2009 by tyrantlu
Sorrow Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Posted October 16, 2009 For now it seems your point is the only one worthy of all the defense i've seem for GTB so far ^^ Katrine is indeed a pain in the neck when in LHZ! XD But it is very frustrating when you play in a server for over an year, get lots of coupons and full gear you char but can't play your favorite char to the fullest because whenever someone swaps this card all your skills go down the drain >.<
tyrantlu Posted October 16, 2009 Report Posted October 16, 2009 lol yea i can understand that. so if they do nerf it nerf it for pvp not vs mosters haha
Rayray Posted October 17, 2009 Report Posted October 17, 2009 I do hope they give consideration to the mage class for that matter. And i am not saying dragoon warlord was a consideration of them, since it's strip only works in melee. Because of GTB, I only use my wizard when hunting or in WoE. I do hope we get some compensation.
Nucleus Posted October 17, 2009 Report Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) Uh, Tyrantu or whatever. I don't understand how you think Wizards / Profs suck. Without GTB I'm pretty sure they'd be the most used classes on the server. With Storm Gust, Double Bolt, and a bunch of other skills. I think they'd be pretty damn powerful (Which I'd love). I personally say Nerf the damn GTB. It's about time we see some Non SinX - Champs. The fact that everyone has their own FCP'er, makes the melee/strip Wizard / Sage extremely useless. Their low HP also effects it. Edited October 17, 2009 by Nucleus
Sensation Posted October 17, 2009 Report Posted October 17, 2009 Removing the GTB effect wasn't the problem, it also affected PvE (MvPing, item hunting etcetera), we didn't want to loose that edge. Whenever we find a correct solution to nerf the GTB it will be done, but as of now, we can't separate PvP and PvE damage. GTB also is one of the very few sources to block/counter coma and we don't want everyone to all use the same strategy and depend on pure luck to win. I hope you all can see what the problem is, because even if we'd nerf GTB completely, those Assassin Crosses will still coma you in no-time.
Rayray Posted October 18, 2009 Report Posted October 18, 2009 does that mean that if gtb was only a 50% reducts on magic damage then coma will also work on gtb by 50% too? I thought that you can code gtb to only reduce magic damage but makes you immune to some status effects like coma...
Cirrus Posted October 18, 2009 Report Posted October 18, 2009 Whenever we find a correct solution to nerf the GTB it will be done Thank you.
Sensation Posted October 18, 2009 Report Posted October 18, 2009 does that mean that if gtb was only a 50% reducts on magic damage then coma will also work on gtb by 50% too? I thought that you can code gtb to only reduce magic damage but makes you immune to some status effects like coma... It works quite odd, I haven't been able to do tests yet, but then again, my test server isn't equal to this one. The settings for GTB both apply to magic & status effects (such as coma), that's why it's hard to just nerf it like that.
Astaroth Posted October 18, 2009 Report Posted October 18, 2009 GTB also is one of the very few sources to block/counter coma and we don't want everyone to all use the same strategy and depend on pure luck to win. everyone is already using only monks and sinx.... so its already ALL the same strategy to win...
Sorrow Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Posted October 18, 2009 Strange...i always thought GTB's magic null and status protection where two distinct things... Since some itens give immunity to different statuses separately, isn't it possible to add immunity to coma and lower the magic null effect?
Mojaysincross Posted October 18, 2009 Report Posted October 18, 2009 everyone is already using only monks and sinx.... so its already ALL the same strategy to win... While that is true NOT everyone uses it, everyone has there own plans for pvp and such, I dont think theres much problem now anyways.
