Xtopher Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I think the best weapon so far is : Incant / Phree / Zipper Bear / Zipper Bear. Turtle Generals, hydras, goldenrings, etc., don't help with CT damage. I believe there was a suggestion that has been accepting notifying that the attack of Atroce Card (ATK+ 25) will be increased. Another possibility is doppelganger / hunter fly. With the aspd boost you wouldn't need to put as much agility, and hunter fly has a chance at restoring 15% of dmg as HP... Which I suppose doesn't really matter with the berry usage on this server. But I don't think Smiths need TG. Mine does 20k CT's on players and I don't have forger cards so.... One question I do have is: If fallen bishop is +50% damage to demi human and forger card is +40% damage with CT, and both equip into shoes, wouldn't FBH be better anyway? If someone could clarify the details of the damage calculation I would appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plotus2 Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Another possibility is doppelganger / hunter fly. With the aspd boost you wouldn't need to put as much agility, and hunter fly has a chance at restoring 15% of dmg as HP... Which I suppose doesn't really matter with the berry usage on this server. But I don't think Smiths need TG. Mine does 20k CT's on players and I don't have forger cards so.... One question I do have is: If fallen bishop is +50% damage to demi human and forger card is +40% damage with CT, and both equip into shoes, wouldn't FBH be better anyway? If someone could clarify the details of the damage calculation I would appreciate it. I tried putting fbh + MF in shoes. They don't go along well. But I havent tried FBH + FBH or MF + MF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethereal Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 FBH does not affect the damage of CT, so the F. Forger was created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanjapan Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 This discussion looks so fun.... I think it is actually better to make CT have affect of TG though... Even if they can do 51k per one hit and can spam it, I think it will still be hard to fight when the are against dd sinx since sinx only need to hit and eat ygg while WS needs to spam CT like crazy. And actually they might hit almost same damage. Also SB sinx will make WS cry since they can hit much more higher damage when they can spam almost as many time as WS's CT (Depends on player though) So it is unfair to WS (personal opinion =p) Well it is only considered when WS fighting Sinx but I think I made my point XD. Maybe Master Forger is pretty good but still other class gets better option (FBH) So I think it can be either let them have TG effect or make Master forger 50% so it will be more fair ( Personal Opinion again) A little bit of Hp upgrade would be great too...... Well why should I care XD I never played WS anyways ....... (Mammomeit requires money QQ!! lol ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMush Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I have not ever played whitesmith, but im pretty sure they don't need a boost. If i remember right, they can coma, really well, they can do a average of 20k per hit, and if used well, they could run a char out of ygg's easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin545 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 This discussion looks so fun.... I think it is actually better to make CT have affect of TG though... Even if they can do 51k per one hit and can spam it, I think it will still be hard to fight when the are against dd sinx since sinx only need to hit and eat ygg while WS needs to spam CT like crazy. And actually they might hit almost same damage. Also SB sinx will make WS cry since they can hit much more higher damage when they can spam almost as many time as WS's CT (Depends on player though) So it is unfair to WS (personal opinion =p) Well it is only considered when WS fighting Sinx but I think I made my point XD. Maybe Master Forger is pretty good but still other class gets better option (FBH) So I think it can be either let them have TG effect or make Master forger 50% so it will be more fair ( Personal Opinion again) A little bit of Hp upgrade would be great too...... Well why should I care XD I never played WS anyways ....... (Mammomeit requires money QQ!! lol ) If the Whitesmith hits 51k Per hit and wears a F shield with usakoring the assassin is screwed cause they will probaly deal 12-15k per hit (if the whitesmith wears a shield) while the white smith hits 51k spammable damage. Thus making the assassin ygg more than the whitesmith, also dont forget whitesmiths can carry ygg in cart and have alot of ygg to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtopher Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Maybe Master Forger is pretty good but still other class gets better option (FBH) So I think it can be either let them have TG effect or make Master forger 50% so it will be more fair ( Personal Opinion again) A little bit of Hp upgrade would be great too...... Well, 51k spamable is a little too strong, even though I see assassins spam SB that does about 15k each x8 = 120k, and if they have 4 kiels they can spam it about 3 times within fractions of a second, so 3 x 120k = 360k. BUT this thread isn't about assassins. I like the idea of increasing forger to 50%, I actually wonder why it isn't 50% already. FBH doesn't help cart ram so it seems only fair... I also like the idea of an hp boost. When considering WS damage we should take into account they don't have ranged skills, so they wont be terribly over powered no matter what we do. A champ can tss, a sinx can soul destroy.. etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okanagan Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 The WS class is fine the way it is right now. This is coming from a veteran WS player. I have played WS on this server for over a year. It is fine. I do radical dmg with cart term the way it is right now.. Its all about your Attk% not dmg to demi humans. Hint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnnitsuj Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah, I also am a veteran WS player, as I stated before.. All they really need is a HP boost. I mean man, look at the WS' with thana.. insane man insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensation Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Forsaken Forger Cards are available already. DENIED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
