gamersrule26 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Posted July 23, 2009 Wow, if you have money to donate for a RoP. Don't you have money to donate for some forsaken set and cards? After you get your cards and equips, I'm pretty sure you can WoE. Im fully geared and stuff , but I can't woe. Its not about items , its more on if you can make the time or not :P Now ontopic : Now people still prefer emp over RoP anyway , so theres no point in nerfing it. And as Devo's and infact your tests show , Emperium aura is still better than RoP
Millenia Posted July 23, 2009 Report Posted July 23, 2009 Im fully geared and stuff , but I can't woe. Its not about items , its more on if you can make the time or not :P Now ontopic : Now people still prefer emp over RoP anyway , so theres no point in nerfing it. And as Devo's and infact your tests show , Emperium aura is still better than RoP If you have good gear, emp aura is better. If you have bad gear or extremely low stats, the rune aura is better. Due to the way all of RO's stats work (they are exponential in nature), when dealing with numbers above 100, a change of even 5 to every stat can completely out-nerf the 10% bonus. This all depends on context of course, if you have a lot of +demi modifiers (sinx with double fbh, goldenrings, elite weps etc.) then the damage boost won't be as significant as on a low +demi modifier char, such as asura champ (Due to usually using only one FBH and a Lady Tanee card, the 10% modifier has a lot more impact on the actual damage). The bottom line here is, of course, that whether emp aura or rune aura is the better choice depends entirely on the character and *build* in question. If you're intelligent enough to do the calculations (you're not), you could figure out which actually is better without even testing it. This entire topic is complete bullshit in that prospect, as they're about equal. You can argue all you want,but in the end nobody's right, as there is no definitive answer. tl;dr emp is better for pros, rune is better for noobs. no nerf is needed.
Rayray Posted July 27, 2009 Report Posted July 27, 2009 I have seen it in game anyway... I don't notice that much difference, or is it just that the people who uses them are just the ones who donate to get strong? well a few good players makes the ROP look good but yeah, I still prefer the emp.
Ophelia Posted July 27, 2009 Report Posted July 27, 2009 There is no way to say which is more powerful. If you're fully equipped, Emp Aurora will do more damage. If you're not, Rune of Power will do more damage. An item that will help newer players isn't a bad thing; you guys need to embrace it and stop being selfish because you're worried the Emperum Aurora prices will drop further. I don't see any valid reason why Rune of Power should be nerfed as their is no definitive answer which is better and which isn't because the amount of dmg / HP received depends on your equipment.
Devotion Posted July 27, 2009 Report Posted July 27, 2009 But according to my tests, emp is better, if only slightly, no matter what gear you have on. What makes it so hard to determine is the fluctuating results from both auras. So we used an average to calculate damage.
Ophelia Posted July 27, 2009 Report Posted July 27, 2009 Read this post: http://forum.forsaken-ro.net/index.php?s=&...st&p=157161 It does count on equips, and it isn't OP, so why change it?
Ophelia Posted July 27, 2009 Report Posted July 27, 2009 Then why isn't this thread in the rejected suggestions section? Lol...
aelithe Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 well it's been 2 days since the supposed ending of the ROP donation but i still see it in the donation site o.o
Ryoji Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 Perhaps he meant the discount deal had an expiration. Hehe. To keep it from flooding too bad.
Millenia Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 Then why isn't this thread in the rejected suggestions section? Lol...
Ryoji Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 Please don't quote yourself. We saw it the first time. ;)
Devotion Posted July 30, 2009 Report Posted July 30, 2009 Because I'm leaving it open for discussion a while longer. I know what said previously, but opinions will still be taken into consideration, and perhaps down the line the item will be changed or updated; we don't know yet.
Ophelia Posted July 30, 2009 Report Posted July 30, 2009 Then please refrain from saying ''We're not changing it'', as that gives the impression there's no need for any further discussion. :)
Shadi Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 Ookay. Took me a while to read through all these posts but I'm here now. So the way I see it is, People compare the ROP with the EMP aura (turned out to be quite even)and because ROP is easier to obtain it should be nerfed. All I can say to that is, it's only a matter of time before the ROP will be harder to obtain than the EMP since it is only temporarily available meaning there is no real reason to nerf to ROP (that's how I see it) Next to that I think it would be completely unfair to change it considering that people already donated for it expecting to get this effect, with the made-up nerf they might not have donated for it. Also the emp is not that hard to obtain anymore 90+% of the entire server has an emp some even have multiple. It's pure logic that the emp prices were going down cause the supply of emp auras got larger and larger. In the end (After reading both sides of the story in this topic) I see no reason why the ROP should be nerfed.
Kittie Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 ROP is already off donation. So there's no way to get one as of right now...besides buying/trading from players.
Shadi Posted August 2, 2009 Report Posted August 2, 2009 Well there we have it, it's no longer easier to obtain. In other words no need to nerf.