Allelujah Hallelujah Posted April 17, 2009 Report Posted April 17, 2009 well i am a double sword sinx crit type if every i have the elite dagger! or the elite jur(switcher). heres my build! str 250 = good str!. agi 180+ or something = for 195 attack speed. vit 100 = if you don't have tao gunka card (boost your hp to 100% then gives negative defense)(am i wrong?). int 1 = i dont use sp! i use berries for sonic blow( if i switch to jur type). dex 90 = so that i don't miss a lot ( boost some attack speed)(if i don't put dex my agi would be 210+). luk 90-150= for critical attacks good for switching jur to sonic blow....... equipments: drooping valk(if ever i have 1) = good for attacking while dis-spell(1 kiel card for spamming sonic blow)or amistr hat(vanderk card). 3d glasses(if ever i have 1) or glasses(1) sorry i am new and poor=maya purple card. aurura any1 items here in mouth with slotted of course =kiel card or vanderk card or Lord knight card(for berserk). ARMOR! elite of course(2) hahahahaha.... tao-tao/ tao/gr as of now (poor)glittering jacket+10=magic def+5 (ghostring card).... WEAPON! DAGGER elite of course(4) as of now i use tsurugi(2)not shotel(1)=i put goldenring card 3x with the paper card JUR elite of course(4) if your rich try Sonic blow type sin x...with 3 elite jur 1st jur= put 2goldenring card 2 turtle general card(sonic blow) however if your sonic is very low try the other jur 2nd jur=1 thana and 2 goldenring 1 turtle general... 3rd jur=1 incantation 2 goldenring 1 turtle general.... well i am poor and new( i use 2 specialty jur)i put as of now 4 goldenring and the other is 2 goldenring and 2 hydra. Shield valk shield horn card/tharafrog card(if ever i have GTB) MUFFLER 2 elite mufflers 2 noxious card good for range and melee deduction and the other is 1 dev. card and 1 skoll card Shoes elite 2 fallen bishop card ACCESSORY 2 non donation vit or str i use alligator SORRY MY BUILD IS WEAK AND YOU KNOW I AM NEW AND POOR, THIS IS BASED IN MY KNOWLEDGE! CURRENTLY GUNSLINGER for today if time passes by i'll be SINX with that build... any other builds much appreciate thank you and GOD BLESS need to go to bed(if ever my grammar is wrong or other errors so sorry tired)
Rayray Posted April 21, 2009 Report Posted April 21, 2009 here is what I know. tao in forsaken is only 30% hp if you really want to dish out acceptable damage, always have an incantation in your weapon. I doubt you would be able to damage most people if you don't have incantation. also, your build won't be able to hit most sinx and stalkers since your hit is too low, providing that your dex is less than 150 and you don't include phreeoni card. making a build hybrid is good IF and ONLY IF you have proper gears, cards and skills. and in your case, I really don't see why you have luk. example- why would you suddenly switch to crit from sb type? if your sb cannot kill, what makes you think crit would be able to do the job? no point right? use speed potions for attack speed so you would waste so much stat points in agi 1 int??? what kind of sp you have with two FBH though? i guess about 200.. well that is ok considering you use yggs if crit build, don't use daggers. use katars since you only need 50 crit rate when using katars(katars doubles the crit rate) that way you wont waste stat points in luk. it is pointless to make your luk 150(in my view) what is your point of having only 90 dex? you don't want to be no cast? feel free to bombard with death threats if I wrote anything wrong.
Nick Posted April 21, 2009 Report Posted April 21, 2009 if you really want to dish out acceptable damage, always have an incantation in your weapon. I doubt you would be able to damage most people if you don't have incantation. ...my damage is unacceptable? ;-;... :crying_anim: its k ill go back to my emo corner :suicide_anim:
Rayray Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 um nick i forgot to mention that if you have thanatos, then don't mind what i said.. :p
Jae Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 It depends on what type of gear you have, but usually there is the most idealistic. Armors - Tao/GR (vs Champions, Paladins, Creators) Tao/Tao (vs Ninjas, SinX's) OL/OL (vs SinX, LK, or Paladins <-- I've beaten a few off of reflect) Tao/RSX (vs classes when your other armors are broken) GR/RSX (vs classes when your other armors are broken) Weapons - Thanatos, Phreeoni, TG, TG (Main Hand) Incantation, Phreeoni, TG, TG (Main Hand) Switch off between the two TG, TG, Skeleton, Skeleton - - - Off Hand for massive damage WS, Dragoon Warlord, Metaling, LOD - - - Off Hand for strip/break Edge - Coma Cloaks - Skoll/Raydrics - (vs Gangs of people) Skoll/Skoll (vs LK, SinX, GS, Ninja, Sniper, SOMETIMES Paladins) Ray/Ray (vs Paladin, Champ, and Creator) Boots - FBH/FBH - (Pure damage) Shields - GTB - (Magic/Coma) Usakoring - (Damage reductions/range reduction too) Helmets - Valkyrie Hemet - - - 2 Gemini's Moon/Sun/Flower/Emp Aura - Maya P Wing - Increase Speed <-- only if you can't afford Rucksacks Rucksack - Kiel/Pharoah whatever you prefer honestly. Accessories - Str/Str - Pure Damage vs most classes like SinX, Paladin, LK's Str/Vit - Survival/Damaging - Champions I usually use 2 str though Vit/Vit - If you just want to do pure survival Stat wise it all depends on preference of whether or not you just want to do huge fast hit & runs. Or you want to survive others. But my build was like 26x Str 19x Vit Dex till 150 <-- Auto Cast Agi till 195 aspd <-- Including Decrease Agi O_o I had like 270k hp with 1 Tao which is really worth having when you're being ganged, etc. There are different methods as well, as when you fight against others. Of course this is my opinion, and my opinion alone.
Rayray Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Jae's build is good but there are some things that you ought to look at.. ok I will share about half of my build(frankly I am not really good at this so bear with me ok, criticize me because I really need it) Armors - Tao+ OL- main armor GR+tao- secondary but not used much, most champs deal so much damage anyway, it is better to kill them before they kill you Tao+forgot the card, the one which enchants water property to armor- for those who uses BoS and Fire Converters since those are the most used converters of course the RSX+ Tao would be good Weapons - Incantation, Valkyrie randgris, TG, Goldenring or hydra(Main Hand) I don't have thanatos. and it is easily countered now with skolls. putting two same TG in right hand makes the second tg less effective(in terms of the 20% damage, not the chance for magnum break.). also there is no point of putting phreeoni on right hand weapon, since it is better to put it in left because it has the same effect, +100 hit. phreeoni, valkyrie randgris, tg, hydra or goldenring- I don't really know if two valkyrie randgris stack up, but I like to make my two main weapons indestructble(I hate Whitesmith cards and AD). note: I am referring to the weapons as non-elite daggers( of course if you have two of them you can remove valkyrie randgris and put another tg but I like the dispel so much I had two of them) 2xWS, Dragoon Warlord, metalling - - - Off Hand for strip/break 2x Edge - Coma Cloaks - I only use one though raydric+ skoll, but if you have two then have a skoll+skoll Boots - FBH/FBH - (Pure damage) FBH+Dragoon wizard- i like the dragoon wizard Amon Ra+ Dragoon Wiz Shields - GTB - (Magic/Coma) Thara or the custom one that is like thara but better( i've been so far from this server I forgot the names) Helmets - Valkyrie Hemet - it could be 2x kiel, 2x Pharaoh(if you don't want to use too much yggs on sp) Moon/Sun/Flower/Emp Aura - Maya P Wing - Increase Speed <-- only if you can't afford Rucksacks just as Jae said Rucksack - Kiel/Pharoah whatever you prefer honesty just as Jae said also Accessories - Str/Str - enuf said. Sight accessory if and only if needed(most of the time not needed) any stripping cards would also be cool my stat looks like the same as everyone except that when using amonra i have 99 base int. whatever vit you might like , if you think you could live with it then do so. str just have it in multiples of 10. put dex first to 150 before adding agi. use speed pots so you wouldn't waste stat points on agi too much although adding agi for flee might(I said might) work.
Hrist Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Actually, you really don't need all of those. Most Sinx nowadays just coma anyway haha. But yeah, Jae's suggestion is correct. Vit/Vit combos are awesome. Drops them reflect wh0re pallies without fail.
Cirrus Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Jae's build is good but there are some things that you ought to look at.. ok I will share about half of my build(frankly I am not really good at this so bear with me ok, criticize me because I really need it)Okay. Armors - Tao+ OL- main armor GR+tao- secondary but not used much, most champs deal so much damage anyway, it is better to kill them before they kill you Tao+forgot the card, the one which enchants water property to armor- for those who uses BoS and Fire Converters since those are the most used converters of course the RSX+ Tao would be good Just don't get caught off guard by a lightning verter user. And it is very possible to resist champs so Jae's GR+Tao is really worth it as a "main" armor if you don't have multiples. Weapons - Incantation, Valkyrie randgris, TG, Goldenring or hydra(Main Hand) I don't have thanatos. and it is easily countered now with skolls. putting two same TG in right hand makes the second tg less effective(in terms of the 20% damage, not the chance for magnum break.). also there is no point of putting phreeoni on right hand weapon, since it is better to put it in left because it has the same effect, +100 hit. Goldenrings/hydras don't stack well due to 2x FBHs (Demihuman modifier). Also Jae's Thana/Incan TG TG Phree is best, as you can opt for a shield while still having enough HIT to... well, hit enemies. Thus there is a point in Phree in the right hand. Cloaks - I only use one though raydric+ skoll, but if you have two then have a skoll+skoll Or a Ray+Ray if you're having trouble against champs. Boots - FBH/FBH - (Pure damage) FBH+Dragoon wizard- i like the dragoon wizard Amon Ra+ Dragoon Wiz If you're going for the Kyrie best stack two D.Wiz. Shields - GTB - (Magic/Coma) Thara or the custom one that is like thara but better( i've been so far from this server I forgot the names) Jae said it's Usakoring, 35% demihuman reduction. Helmets - Valkyrie Hemet - it could be 2x kiel, 2x Pharaoh(if you don't want to use too much yggs on sp) Moon/Sun/Flower/Emp Aura - Maya P Wing - Increase Speed <-- only if you can't afford Rucksacks just as Jae said Rucksack - Kiel/Pharoah whatever you prefer honesty just as Jae said also 2 Kiels if you want to SB, and another Kiel on aura/ruck for a total of three. Though Geminis are used because of Stone Curse (and sleep) resistance. Sinx doesnt need much sp anyway so yeah. Accessories - Str/Str - enuf said. Sight accessory if and only if needed(most of the time not needed) any stripping cards would also be cool What Jae said. Though switching a Sight clip and then switching back to your belt might work. And VIT+VIT really does work wonders. VIT+VIT + 2x Firelock/Gen.EgnigemCenia/Dragoon Dungeon Keeper heh really nice against reflect. my stat looks like the same as everyone except that when using amonra i have 99 base int. whatever vit you might like , if you think you could live with it then do so. str just have it in multiples of 10. put dex first to 150 before adding agi. use speed pots so you wouldn't waste stat points on agi too much although adding agi for flee might(I said might) work.Adding a bit of AGI isnt as practical as adding a lot, since you need a lot more flee to evade most people's 500 HIT. and you may forego the INT except when you're non-donor, as you might not have SP.
Rayray Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 ok thanks i understand now. ok there are things i like to clarify though, two dragoon wiz doesn't stack, that is why i didn't use it. on the point of putting phree on the right hand, i see your point too. but i guess since most sinx doesn't switch to shields to fight other sinx or other melee class, putting phree on the right hand is pointless. the only time I switch to shields is when a wizard annoys me by casting sg while i am sitting. it would be better to have an extra right hand weapon with incan, tg , valk and phree. also hydras and goldenrings will stack (I guess) since fbh is on the shoes. as far as I know, diminishing card effects ONLY happens when two of the same cards are used on ONE weapon. well i guess sinx don't need much sp but for me, well I hate using yggs just for sp :p, it depends on your preference but I guess you guys are right, gemini would do wonders. on the armor, only a few people have lightning converters anyway. and i think only a few of us uses that kind of armor, most people uses gr+tao, but that armor won't work against champ especially if you don't have that much hp, but i guess in jae's case it would work. criticize me again if i got anything wrong.
Cirrus Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Well, it's all in a player's style. For example 10% chance for Kyrie is good enough, why not opt for an HP card to augment D.Wiz's 5%? Or an FBH, as you said. Wear a shield and decent reducts = champs will have a very difficult time. A shield is mandatory when fighting a well geared and skilled champion. But if you insist that you fight a champion without a shield then who am I to argue, after all, to each his own. You may test Goldenring/Hydra stacking, but it's been proven time and time again that more Demihuman modifiers after 2 FBH's are less effective than stacking different modifiers such as non-boss modifiers (TG and ValkR), size modifiers (Skeleton Worker for medium = players), to a lesser extent other race modifiers (Civil Servant against people who wear GR, and even rarer, elemental modifiers (against people who wear Angeling, Bathory or Evil Druid armor.) On the converter's issue, Lightning converters are very easy to obtain that's why better be safe than sorry. ;)
Rayray Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 I see, maybe I just didn't meet people using those converters :p how lucky I am. hmm I guess I will try your suggestion on Hydra Stacking and accept your advices. on champions, I do use shields(sometimes) but most of the time, I am too slow to change my armor to gr+tao and switch to a shield that is why most of the time we kill each other because I use OL+ tao. on the kyrie, I used amonra+ dragoon wizard in LMS and the only time I died in that LMS is when a sinx used coma on me( i ran out of yggs by then). it is quiet annoying to hit someone with kyrie, especially in 195 aspd since it would trigger another kyrie most of the time.
Ayon Posted July 22, 2009 Report Posted July 22, 2009 BTW Can someone tell stats +cards for sb type sinx? i searched the forum, but whether im to stupid to find something or there is no guide for this..... THX a lot :)
SilverStriker :D Posted July 22, 2009 Report Posted July 22, 2009 chnage your build!! u wont kill anyone with 195 aspd with sonic blow u'll just go miss miss miss if u wanna play sb get some phree!! then if u wanna play luk then concentrate with luk!!! looooll
its777 Posted July 22, 2009 Report Posted July 22, 2009 correct me if im wrong but if crit ignores def, thana wont do shit? so why add luk or even an inca for that matter. so yeah if you're gonna play luk add more and change your cards.. paper is good for crit.
Ayon Posted July 22, 2009 Report Posted July 22, 2009 chnage your build!! u wont kill anyone with 195 aspd with sonic blow u'll just go miss miss miss if u wanna play sb get some phree!! then if u wanna play luk then concentrate with luk!!! looooll By now i am kind of both, dd and sb, but i want to decide which way go right, dont go both a little..... but it seems that dd is preferred.... Edit: I got Phree ;)
Rayray Posted July 22, 2009 Report Posted July 22, 2009 DD is preferred by most geared players since it is so versatile. and SB can only(most of the time) work with 3 kiels.
