Yeung

Lets get something straight before I go any further. Before this post, on your last post you said this. But now you're basically saying if you're not a DEX stalker, you're destined to be horrible since obviously stalkers don't have any native magic skills of their own. I didn't choose to suck. I choose to think outside of the box. Though currently, there IS no outside. Stalker's are SUPPOSED to go outside of their skill trees. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM UNIQUE. Magic stalker was a perfectly viable build before the server started to evolve with more reducs/resistances OTHER than GTB. Though as I said in my opening statement it seems we haven't had anything done for us from those days save for a weight increase. Even the mages got Stave Crasher, since GTB is obviously a worse enemy to them than us. But we got left behind in the dirt and are currently wallowing in it hopelessly. As for 'amazing damage output', I only have 1k more MATK with that the Oriental and 4 Kingrings than the normal Forsaken Magic Stalker Dagger with 4 Kingrings. Not amazing at all.

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@ Chris - I didn't say anything about changing damage. We just need another skill. We obviously can't do a thing about GTB + FCP, so something to bypass that would be great or otherwise we're a lamed out build. The funny part is, I tried PLENTY of builds with the Helm of Darkness AND Angel Of Ghost. Some worked OK, but most were spread too thin between stats and useless skills, and rendered completely ineffective. ----------- @Zangetsu - Bow Stalker doesn't. Magic Stalker does. ----------- @Forum(lol) - I don't mind your opinion at all yo; say what's on your mind. The better the argument, the better we can sift through this. 1. Taekwon's, at one point, we're looked into but got dropped out around the time of new updates, just like Magic Stalker. So I'd say they're even. 2. As the thread starter, and with my knowledge of the class build, I think my opinion does indeed have a BIT more value than most people. Though that doesn't mean I disregard ANYONES opinion, and I doubt the GM's do either. 3. I can agree with you saying Ninja's didn't have everything, but they sure had A LOT compared to this stalker build. I think Ninja is a pretty under the radar powerhouse class, who now only recently is getting exposed thanks to the new weapon. But that's my opinion, and yours is yours. 4. That's literally the first big thing I noticed when I came back. Seriously, CT and TT doing 40-50k? With Numa'? Pshhhhhhh. 5. ND PvP is washed up. And I miss it. Dearly. qqqqqqqq 6. That was actually one of my facts, that you skipped over. qq But with that same versatility comes the price of spreading yourself thin to play on two different 'planes'.You can't play left field and right field effectively at the same time y'know. If you think we need a magic weapon, gimme detailed stats of what the weapon should have in your opinion, if you don't mind.

Though I think that's a nice combo, it seems a litttlllleee over bearing considering we could use Acid Demo with it. We'd be like, overpowered Creators. I'm not trying to unbalance the game here. :'<

Just finished editing. Let your opinions fly brothas and sistas.

Arguably the most overlooked class in the game. I've said it time and time again BUT A BROTHA CAN'T GET A WORD IN >:[ Before anyone says "You've done this before" I know I have, thank you very much. But that was just about their new weapon, WHICH IS STILL HORRIBLE AS OF TODAY. I didn't even get to put in my final suggestion for the weapon due to my absence, and the thread is locked now. Which is all the reason I need to start another threaddddddd yuuuu feeellll meeehhh~ --------------- Now I know I've been gone for a while, and now there are even more changes to the server, some good some bad yadda yadda. Yet barely ANYTHING has been done to help Magic Stalker out a bit. AN ENTIRE NEW SET OF WEAPONS, WITH NONE INTENDED FOR HELPING MAGIC STALKERS Shit even the ninjas got somethin' to help them out, and they were ( And STILL are ) pretty legit in the first place.. And the Whitesmiths. HOLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYY CHRIST THE WHITESMITHS YO. You GOTTA be kidding me. I know balances aren't made with the snap of a finger, but this has been my plea for YEARS AND YEARS. And after all these years, the ONLY thing I've achieved for the class I love most, is adding a weight increase to their weapons. And it's not good enough. All the other classes are and builds are 'evolving' at a steadfast rate, and we're being left behind. Just like ND PvP. QQ So lemme just go over some magic stalker 'facts', for clarification. I can honestly say out of everyone on the server, I think I would know about these the most: PROS: + The diversity to use a hybrid build to confuse and attack enemies with more than one 'strategy', which is the selling point of Stalkers in the first place. + Strip dat hoe. The element of surprise works wonders for us. + Due to backslide and cloak, hard to be cornered by melee classes, and even ranged classes sometimes. CONS: - The same diversity that helps us, also brings our downfall. Trying to cram too much into two different things often spreads yourself thin, and makes you weak at both. - FCP + GTB = Instant Defeat, unless you use drastic, unorthodox methods that obviously barely have a chance in hell of working ( Edge, OH WAIT GTB. Or maybe you could run around for 10 minutes and wait til' it wears off LIKE A THUG. Too bad they'll most likely tele out. ) or sacrificing yourself ( I.E Reflect with Orcs ). - Barely have any equipment that supplements their magical abilities. For instance, the Winter Scarfs give Thiefs a bonus of STR/DEX + 20, which is obviously for melee/ranged Stalkers and Assassins, and barely help magic stalkers. - Our best defense is not to be hit. - Elemental reductions ruin our offensive capabilities even more, even without GTB. - Maya is a pain, and AoE spells can't kill people without being out-healed. From my nganalysis, you can clearly see we SUCK in most situations involving anyone who knows what they're doing. ------------- Change can't happen over a day, at least not in fRO. Though through small steps I think the build I love most can be saved from this horrible tragedy. And the first step is to CHANGE THAT DAMN SWORD. Which brings my suggestion for the Stalker Black Oriental Sword: The current stats are, 20+ INT, MAX HP + 20%, MATK + 35%, MAX SP+ 15%, Level 10 Enlarge Weight, 30% Chance of Reject Sword on ATK, 5+ ATK SPD, and Unbreakable. I request one or more the following changes: + Add another magic skill to the sword. o=One OR MORE of the following skills, being reasonable about them of course, would certainly help. --> Soul Breaker - Lightning Spear Of Ice - Acid Demonstation - Storm Gust - Meteor Storm - Jupital Thunder - Stone Curse - Mind Breaker (Yeah, mind breaker. ) - Crimson Fire Formation - Dragon Fire Formation - Falling Ice Pillar - Lightning Crash - Magic Crasher. ALMOST ANYTHING WOULD HELP TREMENDOUSLY. ^^ Out of all of these, I think LSI would be the obvious choice. For people who say we wouldn't need Kiels and we would be cheap, WE STILL NEED KIELS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE like I dunno... uh.. STRIP? Or our possible new SECOND SPELL? ^^^ Soul Breaker with a damage increase would be a pretty cool idea too. + Add Defense to the Sword. Soaring Bird has 20%, AND ITS A BOW. Why doesn't the sword? - In light of a defense increase, take away Reject Sword. We can cast that our damn selves. + A chance to coma with melee would be nice, even though it's barely useful. + Increase ATK spd to 10+ We already have to waste enough points on INT and DEX, so we barely have anything left for HP and AGI. It would help more than you think. ------------- With this, I think we can stand an honorable chance against today's super-powered, nearly invincible class strategies that have nothing to do with luck like ours. Peacey P out, ya'll biscuitheads~

Thanks for all the welcome backs. The noob king is pleased. NOW ON TO COMPLAINING. >:D

I mean, I was already back. But now I'm back in my back, so Im back again cuz I can do that. Where my dogs at. Don't gimme that friendly crap. You said my dagger doesn't need LSI. YOU'RE DEAD TO ME.

Stop scarin people away from my thread. Go watch anime.

Why my oriental sword ain't fixed bro. :'<

Ladder is bammed out.

"GIMME THAT SHIT!" Yeung said, quickly punting the kid yards away with his foot while taking his sombrero. Little did he know it was Kuoch's Power Sombrero, but even if he did he would sell it either way. Probably for chicken or something.... The hood would feast tonight.

REVIVAL! SHOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHHH!

Yeung walked in only to see Smeay eating Kuoch's legs. Completely disregarding that, he stole most of what was left of the cookies and went on his way. The hood would feast tonight.

...oh dag. .-.

So... is this gonna happen or what. Sittin and waitin...

I WISH I COULD PLAY THAT. >:I

That's ugly men. -__-

Nice job peoples. Why couldn't we both get 50. I feel like I came in third. >:I

Yeah reducs.