Rahvin

But back to the original question, do size penalties apply for a fist vs mace weapon with asura? [weapon = small-medium-large] fist = 100-75-50 mace = 75-100-75 Are these factored into the formula?

I've been playing around on MVPs and I don't believe size penalties apply - I am getting roughly the same damage (hard to calculate given the +2 str difference between fist and mace - restatting horrors galore!). Can anyone confirm or reject this notion?

Deviling has dropped to 350-400; Usakoring is 400

What are you using to minimize after cast delay? 3 kiels + 195 aspd? or 2 kiels? or no agi?

Lol Twest, very nicely detailed response. Considered making it into a guide?

If your f-cloak is +0, PM Ishamael.

I have a Dark Lord card we can talk about. IGNs: Rahvin (during WoE), Ishamael (not during WoE)

GMs have been working on this for some time. I posted about a week back and GM-Shield said it should be working in a couple days. However, I understand that Genesis is the one that takes care of these things, so maybe we should wait for him to give a statement on it before we flood forums. I also asked a GM about this quest in Q&A (forgot which) and they said Genesis was aware of the quest bug and working on it. We can only be patient and wait. That GM also mentioned it would be posted when fixed, so in the mean time, stop wasting your money on mastelas :D

You mixed up your >100 and <20 's symbols.

[GM]-Shield hastily responded to an @request. Currently the quest takes only your mastelas and jams. Don't lose your 4M zeny worth of mastelas by trying it prematurely. It may be a day or two before it fixes (according to the GM response I got).

Would you recommend hollowrings, or should I keep reydrics?

With 2 FBH cards, my SP is at 67. Help.

Couldn't have said it better. The prices are not all linearly rising. For example, donate coupons can now be purchased for 16-18M if you have a good eye, vs the usual 18-20. Upper bounds of eq (ex. thana and emp have been mentioned) has dropped after unfounded inflation, but certain PVP MVP cards have gone up. The sad truth is that it is the 'donaters' that are pushing prices down for MVP cards. Why? Because it makes more $ sense to buy a popular MVP card (ex. incant, phree, tg, tao) for 3.50 and sell it for 55 coupons (quick sale vs the usual 60-80 price) than to buy raw coupons (3.50 will get you 35?). In short, they are 'supplying' more MVP cards against the demand, which keeps the price lower. The backlash of such is that non-purchaseable cards/items will go up in price. Sketchy says it best. If you want the price to go down, than you (and others) have to stop buying. When the supply overtakes the demand, the price will stabilize, or in the best case scenario, drop.

As the title says, I'm looking for 2 STR belts at a reasonable price. Leave your offer and IGN :)

What's Left of Mine: Angeling (5) Doppleganger Dracula Drake General Egnigem Cenia (4) Hollowring (2) Lady Tanee Maya Moonlight Flower Orc Hero (2) Orc Lord Skoll Turtle General LK Elite... ... shield ... boots ... 2H spear ... Elite box! * Place an offer + Last Updated June 16th

I got it by searching the forum link on google and checking the cached page. It only works for the more frequented posts because google is a semi by-popularity search engine. I'll properly cite yours now and also try to get some of the pictures working. :D

Everyone has been asking, so I went looking for a way to salvage some of the old guides. I found these by using cached pages (google). I did not write these guides; they used to be listed in the 'old guides' section before it was shut down. Hope the information is still useful/relevant for you, especially since the wiki is temporarily (?) out of order. [This section by Ethereal] This is to all who are confused to becoming a Forsaken Elite, or those who are going to become one. [ Requirements of Becoming a Forsaken Elite ] • 255 Base Job • 255 Job Level • Need to be a transcedent class or a first class ( Ninja, TK, Star Gladiator, Soul Linker, or Gunslinger. ) [ Where the Town Each Class Started ] ( For Step 5 ) [ Izlude ] • Lord Knight • Paladin -------- [ Geffen ] • Professor • High Wizard -------- [ Payon ] • Sniper • Clown & Gypsy • TaeKwon • Star Gladiator -------- [ Alberta ] • Whitesmith • Creator -------- [ Morocc ] • Assassin Cross • Stalker • Soul Linker -------- [ Prontera ] • High Priestess / High Priest • Champion --------- [ Amatsu ] • Ninja -------- [ Einbroch ] • Gunslinger ------------------- [ 1st Step ] To those of you people who cannot figure out where the Forsaken Elite House is, it's at fcity 165 150 -------------------- [ 2nd Step ] After that, you'll need to talk to Elite Victor. When you talk to him he'll say : QUOTE [ Victor ] I have heard much about you, allow me to introduce myself. I am Victor, Leader of the Forsaken Elites, we have guarded this land for centuries, and will continue to do so. I am sorry but I cannot tell you more without authorization from our king. --------------------- [ 3rd Step ] By authorization from the king, he means Prince Theodore III in the Forsaken Throne. The the entrance to the throne is at fcity 89 163. --------------------- [ 4th Step ] Once you enter, he's all the way at the top. Then you'll see a old NPC named Prince Theodore III. Once you talk to him, he'll say : QUOTE [ Prince Theodore III ] Hello, I am Prince Theodore III, son of the Forsaken King. When I was just a boy, my father lead the Forsaken Elite but dissapeared suddenly during an invasion from the Dragoons over 50 years ago. ----------------------------------- Something still worries me. After that, you'll have a choice of picking 2 things to say to the King. So say the QUOTE [ You ] What worries you my prince? After that, he'll say : QUOTE [ Prince Theodore III ] Various reports have made it clear that the Dragoons have reunied under a new leader and mobolizing their troops. ------------------------------------ Our troops are preparing themselves for anything! All we can do is hope its enough to stop a possible invasion from the Dragoons.Our only hopes are the Forsaken Elites, why don't you go see them? Tell them I send you. ------------------ [ 5th Step ] So now, you go back to the Forsaken Elite House and talk to Elite Victor. Now, Victor will say : QUOTE [ Victor ] It seems to me, the King is fond of you. Very well, we shall put you under the trial to see if you have what it takes to become a Forsaken Elite. -------------- Your trial for the Forsaken Elite _______ has begun! You must speak to an Elder whom is located the town where all ________ began! The first " ________ " means your class. So let's say you're a sniper, he'll say " Your trial for the Forsaken Elite Sniper has begun! " And the second " _________ " means where your class started. So let's say you're a sniper again, and then he'll say " You must speak to an Elder whom is located the town where all Archers began! So now, you need to find your elder in the town where your class started. -------------- [ 6th Step ] Once you find your Elder in the town where your class started - they'll say/ask : --------------- [ 7th Step ] Once you have finished getting those items and giving them to your elder, you will successfully have become a Forsaken Elite. ============== [ This section still available in The Overall Guide to Random Information ] First Quest: Requires: Base and Job level 255 3000 Hydra cards (ama_fild01, pay_dun02, pay_dun03, treasure01) 2000 Apples (Tool Dealer, um_in 104 124) 1 MvP card (varies per class) 500 Crystal Blues Special thanks to .Sushi. for saving me a lot of time by posting here. I also thank and commend Abstract for making a guide on making the Elite items for specific classes (link above). Assassin Cross Quest: 3,000 Hydra cards (ama_fild01, pay_dun02, pay_dun03, treasure01) 2,000 Carat cards (gl_cas01) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[02,03]) 1,000 Apples (Tool Dealer, um_in 104 124) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Phreeoni card (moc_fild15) Stalker Quest: 3,000 Argos cards (mjolnir_10) 2,000 Poring cards (prt_fild[05,08]) 1,000 Apples (Tool Dealer, um_in 104 124) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[02,03]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Osiris card (moc_pryd04) Champion Quest: 3,000 Rideword cards (c_tower1) 2,000 Stainer cards (mjolnir_06) 1,000 Alarm cards (c_tower3) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[01-06]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Bacsojin card (lou_dun03) High Priest Quest: 3,000 Andre cards (anthell02) 2,000 Kukre cards (iz_dun01) 1,000 Caramel cards (ein_fild03, mjolnir_01) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[01-06]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Stormy Knight card (xmas_dun02) Paladin Quest: 3,000 Andre cards (anthell02) 2,000 Desert Wolf cards (moc_fild14) 1,000 Deathword cards (tha_t[03, 07, 08]) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[01-06]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Doppelganger card (gef_dun02, gld_dun02) Lord Knight Quest: 3,000 Argos cards (mjolnir_10) 2,000 Poporing cards (pay_fild04, prt_maze03) 1,000 Leaf Cat cards (ayo_dun01) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[01-06]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Orc Hero card (gef_fild14, gef_fild02) High Wizard Quest: 3,000 Male Thief Bug cards (prt_sewb4) 2,000 Matyr cards (moc_pryd04) 1,000 Alarm cards (c_tower3) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[01-06]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Evil Snake Lord card (gon_dun03) Professor Quest: 3,000 Hornet cards (prt_fild00, mjolnir_04) 2,000 Hunter Fly cards (gef_dun00) 1,000 Deathword cards (tha_t[03, 07, 08]) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[01-06]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Evil Snake Lord card (gon_dun03) Creator Quest: 3,000 Lunatic cards (prt_fild01) 2,000 Hunter Fly cards (gef_dun00) 1,000 Metaling cards (lhz_fild01) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[01-06]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Drake card (treasure02) Whitesmith Quest: 3,000 Lunatic cards (prt_fild01) 2,000 Hunter Fly cards (gef_dun00) 1,000 Mummy cards (moc_pryd04) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[01-06]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Lord of Death card (niflheim) Sniper Quest: 3,000 Female Thief Bug cards (prt_sewb3) 2,000 False Angel cards (gefenia01) 1,000 Deathword cards (tha_t[03, 07, 08]) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[01-06]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Moonlight Flower card (pay_dun04) Clown Quest: 3,000 Drainliar cards (alde_dun01, in_sphinx1) 2,000 Drops cards (ra_fild[11, 12]) 1,000 Deathword cards (tha_t[03, 07, 08]) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[02,03]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Eddga card (gld_dun01, pay_fild11) Gypsy Quest: 3,000 Fabre cards (gef_fild07) 2,000 False Angel cards (gefenia01) 1,000 Deathword cards (tha_t[03, 07, 08]) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[02,03]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Eddga card (gld_dun01, pay_fild11) Ninja Quest: 3,000 Peco Peco Egg cards (moc_fild10) 2,000 Hunter Fly cards (gef_dun00) 1,000 Plankton cards (iz_dun00) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[02,03]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Dracula card (gef_dun01) Gunslinger Quest: 3,000 Peco Peco Egg cards (moc_fild10) 2,000 Sidewinder cards (ve_fild07) 1,000 Plankton cards (iz_dun00) 1,000 Aloe Leaflets (for_fild[02,03]) 500 Empty Bottles (anthell01) 1 Incantation Samurai card (ama_dun03) ---------------------------- New to fRO c.April 09 Ritalin (Wizard) Rahvin (Lord Knight)