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ok you can buy beer, so? doesn't mean you're mature, it means you're older. tl;dr but i read equality. every class can't take eachother down. some have greater advantages over others, that's balance since you can always switch characters and you can own the same things your opponent owns, it's not like anyone has ahura mazdah. anymore.

you're new so i won't say anything against you. be a ws or creator? you're shitting me. found this offensive? man up. or woman up. who cares become an adult and realize reality in this planet we call Earth, sugarcoating should be only used for infants, not teenagers. ok, be a ws? how? they're like, the only class that can bring down a paladin without taking massive reflect damage back. be a creator? they're the only class that if stalled long enough, can kill a paladin without suicide. *paladin used as example since it's a difficult class to destroy without suicide. ------- kuyuti: nothing that i've said is off-topic. read carefully, you know what's abuse and off topic? your over-usage of text expressions. me pointing it out is off-topic. learn how to use the words properly. ------- iraw, as you stated, tons of idiots go to pvp without freeze protection outside of armor (sheep hat / baseball cap = freeze protection alternatives), which is why sk card comes in handy and as i've said is used commonly as far as i've seen. ------- why should ws be nerfed? someone give me a direct answer/reason. convince me since it's obvious that fcp/unbreakable stuff = protection and if ws is nerfed, you still have to worry about stuff being stripped if you wish to not walk around with fcp.

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i'm not diverting the argument and my arguments are entirely valid. you obviously don't pvp against people that donate, now do you? mostly all of them use sk, freeze an enemy and use wind element scrolls and the enemy is as good as dead. you can't ws the equipment away however if the enemy has unbreakable equipment or fcp, so you can't sk unless the enemy is wsed. get the point? this card isn't abused, it's being used properly since if people are going against the nerf, then it means that they know how to combat it and it doesn't hinder their gameplay so badly. like i said, quit crying, go in-game, make an fcper and buy bottles and you're set. go hunt a ws card or two yourself and use them instead of crying about it.

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to use wrongly or improperly; we put it in a weapon and use it against the enemy in order to defeat them. i don't see how it's being used wrongly or improperly there. misuse; it is being used to defeat the opponent. pvp's purpose is to defeat your opponent, i don't see how it's being misused. to abuse one's authority; this isn't relevant to the situation. i don't know but, you're using the word incorrectly. are you guys against the fact that people use the card correctly, obviously better than how you're using it then? - as for sk, you'd be surprised. tons of people use it because as soon as you ws, you can freeze your opponent if they are unprepared.

armani so what do you do again in distributing the stuff? that's a loooooot of money lols. i might become an accountant...

doesn't taki have a penis?

so? incantation samurai penetrates defense for everyone. you don't see anyone crying about that, now do you? it's a strategic card too you know. every card is. why aren't you crying about stormy knight then?

divest isn't in perfect balance against someone without fcp. answer this, why do you want a nerf? is it because your strategy is useless and ends with you dying all the time? this entire suggestion is pointless, without fcp you cannot battle at all anyways, the only ways to prevent breakage are unbreakable equipments, cards that bestow the unbreakability to the equipments and fcp. you have FAR more ways of countering ws than you would have to strip. here's my suggestion to your suggestion: go ingame and do something about it since obviously crying won't do much. if ws was sooooooooo impossible to counter, then why the hell are there people against it? we'd be annoyed too.

i'm not being hostile, i'm giving you a valid argument. as i said, i've died to people using incantation samurai cards, should that card be nerfed? well, answer me. battle against that instead of you calling me hostile. man up. the cards that were nerfed prevented near-Godly abilities for classes to balance them out more. this card does not make anybody Godly, instead it only gives those prepared an upper hand to those obviously unprepared for battle.

i didn't read this part.. thank you devotion for quoting it in your comment. incantation samurai card is abused as hell. so is gr, deviling, tao gunka, orc lord, turtle general, LoD, goldenring sucks, valk, dragoon warlord, metaling, sinx card, phreeoni... so should we nerf them all because i've been defeated by people that use them? why do people depend so much on the cards up there? oh wait, because they all help players create a strategy.

if not by a "ws noob", you'd get owned by a "strip noob".

so then... this thread is pointless basically, all it's doing is letting us know the creator of its main weakness in pvp... right?

so if we're defeated by a strategy, we should come to the forums, complain about it and request a nerf because we're too lazy to counter it?

every argument i've done is against this suggestion. why? this suggestion is stupid. "no such thing as stupid suggestions" eh? here's one. explain WHY the card should be nullified. why should the staff waste their time doing this? this suggestion is selfish and pitiful enough for me to tone any violent harassment towards anyone agreeing with it down.

you just helped my argument with this. thank you.

you should be afraid of strip when it comes to a champ instead of ws. aluxe, your arguments are easily countered by just the words "what about strip?" find something else to support your statements since strip still exists in the game.

i'll change that ;] go in-game

you're incorrect. someone who's fully reliant on armors will obviously carry more than 1 and nonetheless more than 1 unbreakable armors. ws breaks, it doesn't strip. fcp is a requirement to battle, no matter how you put it you need it. without fcp, you can have your equipments stripped which is worse than breakage since strip also removes your shield and helmet, while only the gypsy/clown class can break helmets and shields. your arguments are not strong enough since you forget the point that whether this is nerfed or not, there will be more obstacles that will make any battle require fcp. don't point out reasons anymore? why? who the hell are you? a gm? a moderator? or do you fear that i'm correct. one question, what's the point in nerfing this?

why it shouldn't be nerfed? because regardless, you will have your stuff broken anyways and if you don't have fcp or want the chances reduced so you won't need fcp, then you have to worry about stuff being stripped, so regardless of the matter, you need fcp to pvp, weapons will have to change and make people carry more of them and so less yggs which will make battles shorter and boring. how to counter ws is an incredibly valid argument since if this is sooooo easy to counter, then i don't see a point in nerfing. strip is harder to counter than ws, think about that instead. as kevin said, ro is based on countering your enemy's attacks and using your own to defeat them, strategic in a way. if you can't find a way around a problem, then you simply lose. no need to complain about it but try harder next time.

if people can't dual account, then they could just ask someone else for an fcp... you know what's worse than breaking anyways? strip. strip can actually remove unbreakable equipment if you don't have an fcp. don't tell me you want strip absolutely removed from the game? seriously, quit complaining about ws, like shit, if you don't have fcp, you're still royally fucked by metaling, wickenbe tres, dragoon warlord, those strip hats and stalkers. with that, i can expect an argument here.

thank you for the statement but it did not address mine or the thread.

i've yet to go off-topic, everything is relevant to the ws "situation" from the story down to the coupons required to buy glistening coats to counter ws card. assume stuff i don't know? you've provided enough evidence for me to make those statements against you. poor vocabulary, tons of swears, improper usage of the word hypocrite. explain how? take action, don't talk action means that you should go in-game, start off another account, create an fcper, get glistening coats, get elites and cards that make your equipment unbreakable and use them, instead of coming to the forums, swearing and crying about the card. as you can see, the people that counter ws card are against this suggestion because they counter it due to its possibility. this is a high rate and we are debating whether or not if it shall be nerfed depending on the difficulty of countering it, it is easy to counter thus nerfing it would only destroy instead of improve. nerfing the card can have terrible consequences i don't think the staff will want to suffer, the slightest change can make the biggest mistakes. about your edp comment, if ws should be nerfed, then edp should be nerfed i mean damn, what should we fear more, our equipment breaking, or taking damage beyond 32,000 per second? also amitsu, here's a little word since your great vocabulary isn't even acquainted with it: ad hominem –adjective 1. appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason. 2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument. stop that & quit your flaming and using my posts as an excuse as to why to flame, release your fury somewhere offline