SkullPanda Posted November 27, 2008 Report Posted November 27, 2008 Slingers only have a pistol as an elite wep. Shotguns would make a great weapon. Dust and Full Buster are overlooked skills. If other classes can have multiple elite weapons, why not GS?
Devotion Posted November 28, 2008 Report Posted November 28, 2008 I do agree with you. However, many have already done the GS Elite quest. I'd suggest that if another GS Elite weapon were implemented it should have a separate quest, so that those that have already done it do not have to go through the entire thing all over again. If not then at least there would be a second weapon :)
Avalon Posted November 28, 2008 Report Posted November 28, 2008 You could just do both; make it a separate quest and make it part of the regular quest for people who complete it from there on. I don't really have much to say on this subject, so I won't voice my opinion.
xBiscuit Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 Yeah, man. I'm starting to get irritated about GS class. The GS pistols are like a set. Like, WTF. Why don't you make Assassin Cross daggers a set too? The should be split so we can actually have a chance at defending our selves from magic users and at least protecting oursevles from 1 hit SB. Just change the pistols into a 1 item so we can use shields.
xBiscuit Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 Well, then we should try to improve them like they did with WS. Class balance = 4/10
do_ob Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 The Pistol class is by default a 2 handed equip. I agree with getting a shotgun, but not making 1 handed pistols. Slingers are like crazy strong, they just have low hp. Its called balance. If you want Amazing Damage, and survivability you are out of luck with RO.
Hiryuu Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 Yeah, man. I'm starting to get irritated about GS class. The GS pistols are like a set. Like, WTF. Why don't you make Assassin Cross daggers a set too? The should be split so we can actually have a chance at defending our selves from magic users and at least protecting oursevles from 1 hit SB. Just change the pistols into a 1 item so we can use shields. i already suggested that 1 hand pistol thing nig.
MikE~XII Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 GS Class is not appropriately build here. Its a weak class. :upsidedown: Try to fight my gs and we will see who's a weak class ;]
SkullPanda Posted November 29, 2008 Author Report Posted November 29, 2008 Okay, hell. I didn't say make the elite pistol 1 handed. If I did, then Sniper's elite bow would have to be 1 handed as well to balance, right? And that would be rape. A 2 handed pistol is fine, GS players have got to learn to switch between shield and gun. My point was, if classes like LK can have 1 and 2 handed Swords (Spear too right? Never saw the whole set), Sinx with Daggers and Katars, why can't a GS have a Pistol and Shotgun? I'd say Grenade Launcher, but Ground Drift being the only skill, it's not really worth it. Inferno and Destroyer do that skill justice. And don't get me started on Gatling Guns. But the Shotgun actually has useful skills.
Devotion Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 Yeah, man. I'm starting to get irritated about GS class. The GS pistols are like a set. Like, WTF. Why don't you make Assassin Cross daggers a set too? The should be split so we can actually have a chance at defending our selves from magic users and at least protecting oursevles from 1 hit SB. Just change the pistols into a 1 item so we can use shields. You have access to GTB, and 100 magic reflect is entirely possible. Isn't that enough? GS Class is not appropriately build here. Its a weak class. :upsidedown: It is very hard so make each class equal in usefulness on a High Rate. There are plenty of talented Gunslingers on this server.
Sensation Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 Okay, hell. I didn't say make the elite pistol 1 handed. If I did, then Sniper's elite bow would have to be 1 handed as well to balance, right? And that would be rape. A 2 handed pistol is fine, GS players have got to learn to switch between shield and gun. My point was, if classes like LK can have 1 and 2 handed Swords (Spear too right? Never saw the whole set), Sinx with Daggers and Katars, why can't a GS have a Pistol and Shotgun? I'd say Grenade Launcher, but Ground Drift being the only skill, it's not really worth it. Inferno and Destroyer do that skill justice. And don't get me started on Gatling Guns. But the Shotgun actually has useful skills. Those are in game, just not released for public yet. Neither I know when it will be released, things were redone quite a while ago, but due to certain reasons never released (replacing of the current weapons as a problem to start with). Pistols won't become 1-handed weapons, neither will bows, it both their strength and weakness to be 2-handed classes (and have a huge range to their usage). That's all I have to say about this.
Ryoji Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 So in other words. This has been suggested, use the search command. And this will be done when the staff deems it acceptable. Why not make a suggestion for the magic class that isn't even changed yet?
-Insane- Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 Slingers are like crazy strong, they just have low hp. Its called balance. If you want Amazing Damage, and survivability you are out of luck with RO. Unless you play sinx. They have an insane HP modifier and EDP, so they can easily double or triple GS's damage. And mentos I won like 3-0 vs your GS on my paladin. =)
Tick Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 GS Class is not appropriately build here. Its a weak class. :upsidedown: It is not a weak class. I bet I can kill anybody with my GS..
Terroryst Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 And mentos I won like 3-0 vs your GS on my paladin. =) Paladins are most definitely rigged.
Ryoji Posted November 29, 2008 Report Posted November 29, 2008 Paladins are most definitely rigged. Defender ftw? Anyone?
-Insane- Posted November 30, 2008 Report Posted November 30, 2008 I didn't know defender works for desperado.
Terroryst Posted November 30, 2008 Report Posted November 30, 2008 I didn't know defender works for desperado. No, but I'm pretty sure reflect does.
Terroryst Posted December 1, 2008 Report Posted December 1, 2008 How come people only make WS since they're apparently the only skills that don't get reflected?
Abstract Posted December 1, 2008 Report Posted December 1, 2008 GS is kamikaze and that's final ): GS is only kamikaze if they wear double OL. GS Class is not appropriately build here. Its a weak class. :upsidedown: And GS class is not weak and if you know how to play GS very well, you'll pwn like in WoE. I think because GS is a second class, they have lower HP and I think that should be fixed and for those other classes that start off with low HP, for example High Wizard or High Priest. If we made shot gun one handed, in my opinion I think that'd be too cheap for GS. It's basically like make a sniper bow one handed and letting them hold a shield at the same time. If you don't like how GS can't protect themselves from magic, then don't bother playing that class. Simple as that.
-Insane- Posted December 3, 2008 Report Posted December 3, 2008 GS is only kamikaze if they wear double OL. And GS class is not weak and if you know how to play GS very well, you'll pwn like in WoE. So nobody knows how to play GS then, if none of the slingers pwn in WoE?
Ryoji Posted December 3, 2008 Report Posted December 3, 2008 So nobody knows how to play GS then, if none of the slingers pwn in WoE? Correct. Well, or so I think. "some" GS can kill anyone the exception is - they die alot trying, or suicide on you However, I figure if in duels, pvp, or WoE itself. If you can't make your class to survive more then one enemy. You fail.
-Insane- Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Except when it's a WS/SK champ and a full asura champ ganging you. *cough* HisLove HerLove *cough*