Creators...

[Sorrow]

There are some failures about them...

Firstly, their main weapon the AD, is a bit lame...it's always same property, also the property that has the biggest way to reduce 80% from GR. Also...since this is the main way to make a good creator, why is that their elite weapons none boosts INT? I think their elite weapons should be something worth it, like stronger versions of Fireblend and ice falchion that add int and have slots X3 It would be cool...

Also, i think they have potential to be more versatile and interesting. Their summoning skills for exemple, what if the plants also got stronger with the creator? Like the plants from Bio Cannibalize. They should like...hit with the same hit the creator has, have much more HP(more than the creator XD) and deal damage/heal using the creator's intelligence.

Summon marine sphere could become better too lots of HP for the sphere for exemple =P.

On low rates i used to use plants and sphere so much, not only AD.

Just an idea cause i think that out of all the jobs that have some PvP potential creator is the most interesting...second to spellcasters =P(but the last ones are a lost cause)

[Sangreal]

Cuz if they use Usakoring use Edge (Coma).

Cuz if they GTB with 2 Devilings (Use Mammomite) With Incantation

And if they don't have FCP there shit can break.

:D

[-Insane-]

Cuz if they use Usakoring use Edge (Coma).

Cuz if they GTB with 2 Devilings (Use Mammomite) With Incantation

And if they don't have FCP there shit can break.

:D

1. Yup yup, very annoying ;D

2. What if they're reflect build?

3. What if they, like me, have unbreakable gear, or at least an unbreakable ghostring? ;D

In other words, I agree, creators only use AD and on the odd occasion fire/cold bolt, we could make their lowrate skills work on highrate as well.

[Sorrow]

That's the idea :3

Creator on low rates are much more that just crazy add bombers, they have tactics that were pretty effective. In a low rate their game play adds the need to think to get your fights done(much like snipers with their traps). But with their tactic weapons rendered weak they become nothing more than AD spammers and dual client FECPers. Their AD suffers from the abundance of GR too which makes their utility mostly end on FCPers.

[Defiance]

Actually, they're not so useless even with the extreme abundance of GR on. They have a majority of tactics (as well as cheap ones) that they can use to defeat their opponents aside from AD. If you observe a good creator, they always had this auto-AD AI I think, and they usually default either GR or Reflect Armor on. They also have their auto-speed pot Homunculus skill which enables them to get away in tight situations. And last but not the least, if they catch you unprepared, their AD will definitely kill you.

Plus they have edge. They can coma too. No, seriously. Switch between edge and fireblend/ice falchion to test out if they are using Usakoring or not.

[Ethereal]

Cuz if they use Usakoring use Edge (Coma).

Cuz if they GTB with 2 Devilings (Use Mammomite) With Incantation

And if they don't have FCP there shit can break.

:D

Absolutely agreed. But one of the worst classes that the creator can face against is Paladin or Priest. Paladins have Defender, and all those other skills which reflect / reduce long-ranged damage. While priests can wear full reductions + have assumption + wear GTB at the same time and the creators can't deal a great amount of damage. But as you said, if thye use 2 Devilings, then they can say bye-bye if you have an Incantation or a Thanatos. ( which my creator used, and it was fun as heck. ) And yes, FCP is a major advantage because you never have to get a FCP whore to FCP yourself. There's many up-sides to creators other than AD.

And about the idea, I wouldn't mind having a weapon that increased INT. It'll help with at least a little bit of AD damage. (:

[Kusanagi]

Well yeah all that sounds nice but you could say there are about 20 people overall with Thanatos card making that option not realistic.

The problem is Creators cant do better than other classes can if you take AD out of the matter. As for coma people either Wear GTB or even Bathory if theyre too poor to get one. Devilings have been Thrown to a basket, burned in fire and gave to the dogs to eat (Raydric does quite close without the side effect). And at the moment people dont ever take away a ghosring from theyre armor unless they are to go 2 OL. Not to mention they all FCP

Sphere Bombs cant be used for anything else than a Distraction and sight blockers.

Plant summon I just for fun or Lvling when low

Mammonite Is usefull indeed but It changes ur build out the need's to AD, max you could do is mammo-Cart revo-mammo just to keep the enemy away from you.

Homunculus Have the same power as a low rate so that makes them useless and generalize everyones homun to Lif for the Emergency Escape Skill.

Magic is useless just nvm that

If my Restrictions are that much, Profesors can do same with the advantage they can Lock/direct dispell/SP Drain and of course Abracadabra :D (lol how funny would be to get the "Death" skill on someone).

[Zeitgeist]

Homunculi were given a 255 level table if I'm not mistaken, so they are pretty powerful. Not to mention a creator can get various advantages from having a good Homun AI. However, buffing the plants up seems like an interesting plan, we'll take it into consideration.