azn_rice(dill) Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 i ttought that only d new classes were coming out but insted d ppl are changng the entire game mechanics. i thot this was gunna b a small update but insted its big http://forums.irowiki.org/showthread.php?t=14155 On kRO on July 28th Gravity set up a new test server for their Ragnarok Renewal Project. The Renewal is a full scale re-balancing of Ragnarok. The plan is to make RO more accessible to users, and more in line with modern day MMORPG's. In addition, the new mechanics are intended so that they can easily add and improve on current game content (such as 3rd jobs) without destroying game balance. Increased Weighting of Level Difference - Players are rewarded for fighting monsters within their level range. - If a player fights a monster up to 10 levels higher than them, they gain a 5% exp bonus per level. - However, if the monster is over 10 levels above the player, the player will be unable to properly damage that monster. - If a player is over 3 levels above a monster, the experience of that monster decreases by 50%. Each additional level difference reduces exp by 10%. - The level weighting occurs after party share is taken into account. Physical Attack Power - Calculation of physical damage has changed. - The status windows shows your attack power as comprising of a status portion and a weapon portion. - Strength no longer appears to exponentially improve attack power (though STR is still the primary attack stat). - The weapon portion of the attack consists of a higher % of the damage than before. Physical Defense - Calculation of physical defense has changed. - The status window shows defense as consisting of status defense + armor defense. - Armor defense appears to do more in reducing damage. - Defense in general appears to be reduction type defense now. The exact formula is not known. - Level difference also appears to affect damage taken from attacks. - Status Defense comprises mostly of VIT, with STR and AGI also providing bonus defense. Magic Attack Power - Calculation of magic attack has changed. - The status window no longer displays a range of damage. Instead, it shows a status portion and a weapon portion. - Magic damage now takes the attack power of your weapon in consideration. The attack power of all equipment usable by magic using classes has been adjusted accordingly. - Magic attack seems more equipment reliant than it was in the past. - The formula for status matk is matk = int + dex/5 + level/4 + luk/3 + int/2. Magic Defense - Calculation of magic defense has changed. - Like physical defense, consists of status mdef + armor mdef. - Magic defense appears to be geared more towards subtraction type, and also affected by level. - Status MDef is comprised primarially of INT, with VIT and DEX providing some additional benefit. Attack speed - Attack speed has changed considerably. - For the most part, the game has been balanced to be slower paced than before. Players will probably attack about half as fast. - Attack speed is influenced by class, type of weapon, and the players agility, and to a lesser extent dexterity. - Equipping a shield appears to lower your attack speed. Hit/Dodge Rate - The formula for Hit/Flee have changed. - The ratio to hit and dodge a monster are now different. It is now easier to hit or dodge, but it is harder to achieve a perfect hit or dodge rate. - Hit and flee are affected by the same stats as before, with the addition of a small bonus from luck. Cast Time - Cast time appears to have changed considerably. - At present, it does not appear as though stats affect your casting speed. - Casting time of skills appears to be fixed, and can be reduced by a set amount with gears and supportive skills. - The cast time of most skills have been adjusted to be balanced based on the new casting rules. Luck - Luck now affects more things than it did before. - Every 3 luck improves your atk/matk/hit by 1. Every 5 luck improves flee by 1. Crit is increased by 0.3% per 1 luck. Monster Stats & Spawn - All existing monsters have been changed to be appropriate to the new balance changes. - Generally monster HP has been reduced considerably across the board to compensate for slower attacks and rate of damage. On average, monsters are seeing about a 60% drop in HP. - The attack power of monsters and their skills are changed to be more in line with the current defense formula, and generally monsters also attack slower. - Most monsters have had their level increased or adjusted to be appropriate for players of their level range. - Some areas have been changed to be efficient leveling areas for certain level ranges. For example, Upper Clocktower has monsters within the level 80-90 range. - Almost all spawns across the game world have been adjusted in some way. Skill Changes - Some skills have been re-balanced. - Heal appears to heal for a range instead of a set number. Like MATK, the attack of the weapon you have equipped affects the amount you heal for. Most priest weapons have been adjusted to take this into account. - Other examples are not yet known. Experience Table - The experience required to level up has changed. - For the most part, leveling is easier than it is now, and less drastic at high levels. Status Effects - Most status effects have changed. - The probability and durration of status effects have all changed. Equipment - Many items appear to have been rebalanced. - Some options have had their stats changed, and some have new options. now shields will mak us slower :(
Yusuke Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 HAHAHHAHAHAHA they totally making it as in WoW or was it L2 , not sure which one. I must say they totally ruin RO and totally change it from what it was to something worse. oh ye and if it's official , please find it here http://ro.doddlercon.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page (I didn't find anything about it).
Sorrow Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 After years of adapting and studying the game structure and testing many lots of much kinds of builds, some experienced players might be converted into noobs again it seems... It might be troublesome if it is true.
Zeitgeist Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 The plan is to make RO more accessible to users, and more in line with modern day MMORPG's That made me laugh a bit; RO was the MMO that set the standards to today's MMOs, I don't see how it should be ' more in line '. Alas, I'm not working with Gravity so who am I to complain? The update looks nice and it seems to me this might help us solve some class balance issues we have. Although, I don't hope this update will come anytime soon. You know, I also heard there were going to be this 3-1 classes by the first half of 2008. Oh well.
Deathy Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 - For the most part, the game has been balanced to be slower paced than before. Players will probably attack about half as fast. Nobody likes a game that goes slower than you can take a crap . Also, they do say that it may not even go out on kRO and iRO.
I♥Music Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 Yeah.. dont update fRO to this. This would make the game SUK.
Crack Baby Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 If they want to turn RO into WOW...I'll just go pay for WOW. /shy If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Jewel Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 If the changes are official it's often hard to get around them on custom servers. However, if this implemented... there's going to be lots and lots of issues of imbalance. fRO is already spec'd to be balanced ( I guess ) and adding this will cause a lot of imbalance and more work for Gen. @_@ Oh well..
Ryoji Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 Because essentially, he'd be having to redo the entire insides of the game. Then testing it, and changing it multiple times to make it work for the server itself. Or he can just leave us an update or two behind, which is pretty bad too.
Seriously Serious Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 I smell a real big epic fail here
Entropy Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 This is gonna be worse then FlyFF V9, when deleveling and the new pvp karma system came out.
Impulse Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 keep in mind, they made this for the retail servers, not for high rate. imo some of the changes isnt bad at all.
psykid Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 This looks like it might deal a damaging blow to RO's current players. BTW, whatever happend to RO2?
Ryoji Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 BTW, whatever happend to RO2? People took a look at it and realized it looked like korean shit. Oh, wait...nvm
lndalecio Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 Lol, if this gets implemented in the near future, I might as well stop playing RO. The uniqueness of this Grandfather MMO is what made it worth playing. Turning it into the likeness of the current MMOs will most likely kill the whole game concept.
Yusuke Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 Lol, if this gets implemented in the near future, I might as well stop playing RO. The uniqueness of this Grandfather MMO is what made it worth playing. Turning it into the likeness of the current MMOs will most likely kill the whole game concept. Yep /!
Yuikami Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 See, in reality, this update WOULD be very good, if they had put it in seven years ago in Beta Testing. Now everyone is used to how RO works. I agree with Indalecio Lol, if this gets implemented in the near future, I might as well stop playing RO.
Entropy Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 Luck - Luck now affects more things than it did before. - Every 3 luck improves your atk/matk/hit by 1. Every 5 luck improves flee by 1. Crit is increased by 0.3% per 1 luck.] Lollll HOLY SHIT. Crit sinx will fucking wreck. lets say.....365 luk, thats + 69 extra flee, + 36 extra pdodge, extra 105ish extra atk, matk, hit. Crit sinx good game, roll credits.
Tamil Posted August 4, 2008 Report Posted August 4, 2008 If this gets put in, i'm saying goodbye to RO, after 6 and a years of RO, this happens, why Gravity.....FUCKING WHY!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY IS GRAVITY COMPOSED OF RETARDS!?!?! ;_;
» Pat Posted August 4, 2008 Report Posted August 4, 2008 This is gonna be worse then FlyFF V9, when deleveling and the new pvp karma system came out. LOL. I remember that. A whole community, of thousands of people, was QQ'ing. Hundrets of people quit, the forums were full of complains, in everybody's signature was an ANTI-V9 banner, etc. xD Good old FlyFF times. -nostalgic-
