The OneOnOne-Move.

[» Pat]

The OneOnOne-Move

Can you remember the times when you could go to PvP and ask a person for a duel? Do you remember the short but all-saying sentence 'When 0 fades.'? Didn't we all enjoy a serious 1 on 1 duel? I can't remember these times anymore. As I have expirienced, PvP bacame nothing more than a huge TLMS. You get in, see 6 people standing around you and guess what happens? Damage from 6 sides. Hurray. But where will this lead?

Because of that, I have decided to start a move. This move consists of a few simple, but effective, rules.

1.) If you want a duel, ask your opponent for it.

If both parties start a duel at the same time, chances are as equal as possible. No further 'n00b' when your antagonist is lying on the ground. No further excuses like 'You got me when I was out of berries n00b'. You win, end of story. You have proven your superiority.

2.) If you see other people dueling, don't interfere.

Other people may have their serious duels exactly as you. I'm sure you wouldn't be glad if someone interferred into your fight when you are about to win nor to loose. Keep out of other's fights.

3.) No flaming.

We all know the situation. You have just dueled someone and won with glory. The fight was fair and you have yea won. But you notice that your opponent is still lying on the floor yelling something like '3h n00b i w4snt rdy!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1+1=2!!1' or the like. You have clearly won but he still won't accept that fact. Annoying, no? So do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

4.) Do not break your own rules.

In case you & your foe are stating any rules before starting the duel, (such as no whitesmith not to break the stuff or something along those lines) do not break them. You'd bring yourself into ridicule and would while breaking said rules admit you're weaker than your antagonist and therewith loose the fight.

It's so easy to keep it fair. Feel free to jump onto the OneOnOne-Move-Train. You can help to imrpove PvP.

Thank you for reading. :]

Spelling mistakes are made on purpose and belong to the text's format.

[» Pat]

Won't happen.

If somebody tries to duel there will be interference no matter what which is why I turn to heavy reflect now to kill anybody in the long-run.

I joined Forsaken. an old guild created by friends from nlRO which is currently becoming the next superpower guild due to Influence's disappearance. As soon as Forsaken. is complete then we will gang others as well.

Duels do not exist.

@duel <--- Should be at most usage outside of towns. Call someone out. If they have balls, they'd go. Otherwise, screw 'em. Get your guild to gang them.

People will always complain on how they die, they forget the goal: Defeat the opponent. Thats why some people hate yggs. Because they cannot defeat their opponent regardless of the Yggs. If your enemy use them, use them too you tree-hugging ygg-saving bastards.

So just @duel.

Simple.

Exactly pointed out the problem.

[Gilgamesh]

Welcome to Ragnarok Online.

[geldaz]

Welcome to Ragnarok Online.

Indeed. Every RPG/MMORPG online that has PvP,has ganging. You can't avoid it nor try to make rules. Noone will obbey them. I guess you're one of the people who gets ganged ,but you gang aswell from what I just saw in PvP.

Life is complicated. Your goal is to defeat the opponent,regardless what you need to do to overpass it. I get ganged all the time and I don't complain about it. I just call some friend(s) and gang them back.

This is called TEAMWORK,you guys just take it has ganging because you get mad over the fact you got killed without standing a single change.

[» Pat]

ganging.

TEAMWORK

That's a difference imho.

[geldaz]

And the diffrence is? Your mind just defines it has ganging because their more than you. But seen in other points,it's teamwork. Which is what PvP is about,even though we can barely see any decent teamwork on highrates.

[Gauntlet]

i actually think its fine. You enter PvP with all risks involved. So yeah. I usually have the only 2 members left from SaD on me :\ (yet i emerge victorious *cough cough*

[» Pat]

It's not all about ganging. Thing that bothers me most is when you have a serious duel and actually enjoy the fight, someone always has to interfere.

[Levis]

Actually, Blueberry is trying to say us, if we all are following these Rules, we will have more fun in PvP. I agree with that Rules, because it's fair for all.

[Diablo336]

Won't happen.

fo rizzle.

[Emy]

heh...it'd happen if the intention of a one on one duel is made clear, ADN THEN EVERYONE ABIDES BY IT! Which won't happen, but you know you can try.

I really wonder sometimes if ppl gang to help out their friends or because they're afraid that if their buddy dies they'll be alone against the challenger.

I do know that on my previous main server pvp wasn't one on one is was gvg. It was amazing, and I don't think we understand that concept here...Someone would knock out someone else from a rival guild. Then that person would get someone else in with them, and so would the other player, and soon enough we'd have 4-5 guilds in a small pvp room, easily half the server at times. Once it even lasted an hour.

Sure, have your one on ones, but it's amazing if you just go with the flow and get your guilds in there. I have people coaxing me into pvp. I went in once seriously and came out disapointed. I look forward to the low rate, then I will pvp for real.

If people want to gang and you are by yourself, then by your rights you're allowed to say they did it because it's the easiest way to kill you. But it's YOUR fault as soon as you bitch about being ganged. Let them be how they want

[geldaz]

Low rate or not,there isn't any diffrence,and if you played iRO or low-rates has you say so,you should know that. You get teamed in any game that is PvP regardless the rates of it. I'll tell you,you will last even less chances on a low-rate than a high-rate. You can spam yggs and get loads of hp on a high-rate. You're designed to use white potions and have arround 8-19k hp depending on your class.

I used to get killed in 2 seconds by Uchiha Martin on iRO,and I was a SinX. Doesn't matter at all..

You can't force people to let others 1on1 ,you can't tell people to do has the law says,specialy on the internet.

[Emy]

I've played low rates for all of ro, fro is my first high rate. I lasted long in pvp because of the character i picked, how I played, and because we did something called...umm...what was it...oh yeah, party.

Also, iro is a funny thing. You got really strong people who are very well settled with great gears. Course they'll own someone with less items and cards under their belt. Imo iro is a bit different...

And there is a difference because unlike yggs, potions on low rates are likely to cost you a lot (here you just hunt yggs), and whites don't restore your full hp and none of your sp. I know about low rate pvp. A healthy pvp will be very fun and very party/team orientated; and yeah ppl have told me I ganged them; 80% of the time I didn't call ppl in to help me, They just did it on their own. But most of the time ganging was accepted as the normal thing.

also, GR plays a huge role in low rates.

[geldaz]

I've played low rates for all of ro, fro is my first high rate. I lasted long in pvp because of the character i picked, how I played, and because we did something called...umm...what was it...oh yeah, party.

Also, iro is a funny thing. You got really strong people who are very well settled with great gears. Course they'll own someone with less items and cards under their belt. Imo iro is a bit different...

And there is a difference because unlike yggs, potions on low rates are likely to cost you a lot (here you just hunt yggs), and whites don't restore your full hp and none of your sp. I know about low rate pvp. A healthy pvp will be very fun and very party/team orientated; and yeah ppl have told me I ganged them; 80% of the time I didn't call ppl in to help me, They just did it on their own. But most of the time ganging was accepted as the normal thing.

also, GR plays a huge role in low rates.

And isn't that the same thing has a High-Rate? In here,there's really strong people who are pretty well geared,and of course,they will own the ones with weak gears and cards. It's just the same. That is a fact that happens in any game. From runescape to Age of Conan.

GR plays a huge role? Champs do 16k asura's on people without reductions. If they had a Ghostring or Raydrics,they would survive. In here,even with full reductions you can die.

Please get your statements right and read twice what you've written,because most of what you just said made no sense or aren't correct.

[Terroryst]

Yes, ganging IS bad.

[Emy]

I meant GR on low rate makes a big difference. And besides, Dama just stated that GR i "powerful as shit here." Maybe you should read, I'm tired of you telling me what to do.

What didn't make sense? Yggs heal full hp sp, whites don't, plus whites cost a lot if you spam them every time you step into pvp. It's way easier to get good gears on a high rate than on a low rate. There's something like 2 god items on iro? And a few gr? Meanwhile here you work for a month hard enough and you have forsaken gears.

Quit smurfing around D:

[geldaz]

I meant GR on low rate makes a big difference. And besides, Dama just stated that GR i "powerful as shit here." Maybe you should read, I'm tired of you telling me what to do.

What didn't make sense? Yggs heal full hp sp, whites don't, plus whites cost a lot if you spam them every time you step into pvp. It's way easier to get good gears on a high rate than on a low rate. There's something like 2 god items on iro? And a few gr? Meanwhile here you work for a month hard enough and you have forsaken gears.

Quit smurfing around D:

To start with,Damascus never told you what to do,he stated that Ghostring is powerful as shit HERE!And about him too, I don't think you've got confident enough to call him Dama or whatsoever. (( btw,he helps me up on some stuff,I'm doing the same for him,nothing related to cocksucker or kissass kay? ))

Whites cost 3k each. ''Spam them every time'' every time you say something,just makes me wonder if you really played a low-rate or you're just trash-talking. In low-rate theres nothing like 32k damage. I've seen in max 4k Crits at a really low ASPD,and 4k x 2 Double Strafe from the best sniper on the world. The majority does low damage,pretty much healfull without having to spam like you do here.

2 god items? I think you should really get your facts straight. And I've got from level 1 novice to 99 Wizard in less than a month on iRO,joined Denuo Convena and started getting really good gears,builds and people who would teach me few secrets.

Please,you can do better,I though you would go read some iRO /euRO forums...but I guess you didn't even think about that option.

[Emy]

uhh i never said damascus was telling what to do. I was pointing out that you said GR wasn't good here, but that he said it was powerful here.

I never used whites...ever...i healed because I was a pally. But I fought ppl and partied with ppl who did.

Quit flaming me, you decided to involve yourself in my discussion and quite immaturely.

[Eregon]

One. She was talking to you for her ENTIRE post. She just referenced what Dama said about GR. Which means she was telling YOU she is tired of YOU telling her what to do. Also, 4k double strafes and hes the best sniper in the world? LMFAO!!! Dude, the newb snipers on the low rate we played got 4k double strafes. The awesome snipers hit 8k's. My Lord Knight!! hit 2k crits, with 197 aspd. The sinx on our server could rank upwards of 8k crits with EDP. iRO must have gone WAY WAY down in quality since I left 6 years ago. I remember HoL and Obsidian hitting way over 4k crits on sinx and easily 4k DS from HoL.

[Shrine]

Shrine here,

hopefully a little light in this conversation.

First of all, I'd like to point out that I'm pretty sure the conversation

completely escalated from what it was supposed to be about, which was The One-on-One move.

It's pretty much just a flame war now me thinks.

Anyway, about the Movement.

PvP is unpredictable, not in all ways, but in many.

Atleast to me it is, but I'm new so I'm not sure my opinion on that counts.

Ganging up on one another is just as easily done as anything else in PvP. As a matter of fact,

if this Thread you started was a PvP room, I could see some ganging going on aswell.

It's natural, and you can try to stop it, but the entire world of Forsaken isn't going to go along with it.

I'll seriously applaud you if more than 30% go along with the idea.

On a more positive note though, ganging is just an obstacle that allows to claim obscene amounts of

fame PvP wise. Think about it. Go into a PvP room, and maybe wipe out One or Two people of the group while being mobbed.

Then, come back, change your strategy, and then maybe wipe out three or four.

Pretty soon, you've got a bunch of people freaking out every time you walk in the room.

I don't know about you, but I'd love to have the power to make people wet themselves.

But what I'm trying to say is, I think it's just how you look at it.

Personally, I think the glass is half full on this one.

[geldaz]

One. She was talking to you for her ENTIRE post. She just referenced what Dama said about GR. Which means she was telling YOU she is tired of YOU telling her what to do. Also, 4k double strafes and hes the best sniper in the world? LMFAO!!! Dude, the newb snipers on the low rate we played got 4k double strafes. The awesome snipers hit 8k's. My Lord Knight!! hit 2k crits, with 197 aspd. The sinx on our server could rank upwards of 8k crits with EDP. iRO must have gone WAY WAY down in quality sense I left 6 years ago. I remember HoL and Obsidian hitting way over 4k crits on sinx and easily 4k DS from HL.

I'm talking about iRO,not a private low-rate server you idiot. Why don't you try going on there then? iRO chaos,and fight Uchiha Martin. A level 99/70 sniper ,which happens to be the best one. And by the way,iRO was out in 2002,we're in 2008,you don't seem to be that aknowledge to be playing since beta.

I bet the crappie servers you play that are so called low-rate have higher level than 99 and got donation stuff to boost them. And just to point out,Uchiha Martin doesn't use a Incantantion Samurai card ,so why don't you fight his 4k x 2 Double Strafe with your 12k hp SinX or 17k hp LK? That's if you ever played on the officials...

[Eregon]

22k hp LK, max level was 99, only 1 donation gear that gave stats and it alone cost 50 bucks. Not many noobs had them and yet the noobs still pulled off 4k Double Strafes, go figure. By the way, a person can play since beta, and still have a lot to learn. Just because you've played for a long time doesn't make you a pro. The server I played was indeed, not fucktard low, it was a modest 6/6/6. However, you try to get a card thats .06% and tell me its easy. Not gonna happen. Now, if I were a real idiot, I would be calling you names as well. But I have more important things to attend to than have a flame war with you. Believe you are some godly player that knows more than everyone else, and is always right if you want. Can't wait for the day someone finally shuts you up ^_^

[Emy]

The player who won incantation card worked his ass off and got lucky one day. All mvp cards on that server are 0.06% just like every other card. That's why it was mentioned to begin with: someone managed to get an incant on a low rate and his damage was still 1 on a 100 def emp.

[Eregon]

We aren't flaming. Never said or lead the to assumption that you were talking to her, and no one said you quoted her. You posted here and she referenced to it. Thats all.

[Terroryst]

Dang, this thing is still going on?

I usually see that when people ask for a duel, nobody bumps in. I usually see that when you random someone, that is when people jump in. I don't know, my eyes are bad though.