Levis Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 Man, whole Forum are conflicting about the GTB. My Solution is the GTB still make's immunity to all effects, but it block all magic Attacks by 50%. The Players who want old GTb and the people who play Magic Classes get a chance to Block btw to Attack people with their Skills.
Count Jinto Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 I would like to see something a little higher like 60%.
Zeitgeist Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 I would say no since magic class' damage output is what puts up for their lousy HP. But we will be testing and deciding a fair % of damage reduction if the nerf goes trough.
L I N K Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 When it was 40% I took 17k JT, when i dont have any shield on i took 17k JT, Don't matter.
Damascus Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 60% Magic Reduction, No Double SP Consumption. Mage Classes recieve a much higher HP Modification than what any update may have given them. Forsaken King's Shield = 20% Less Damage from DemiHuman + 60% Less Damage from Magical Attacks total out to 80%. Let's keep making a higher estimate then... 60 + 20 + 10 + 10 = 100% correct? you won't be immune but you'd take in shit damage. 10% from Combat Knives 10% from Poopoo Hat / Feather Beret / Beret 20% from Forsaken King's Shield[1] 60% from a modified GTB. May a GM check that out with a HW of 300+110 Int ( Int Belts ) and tell me the outcome. Let me add there are various elemental armors and cards that endow the armor with elements.
Zeitgeist Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 60% Magic Reduction, No Double SP Consumption. Mage Classes recieve a much higher HP Modification than what any update may have given them. Forsaken King's Shield = 20% Less Damage from DemiHuman + 60% Less Damage from Magical Attacks total out to 80%. Let's keep making a higher estimate then... 60 + 20 + 10 + 10 = 100% correct? you won't be immune but you'd take in shit damage. 10% from Combat Knives 10% from Poopoo Hat / Feather Beret / Beret 20% from Forsaken King's Shield[1] 60% from a modified GTB. May a GM check that out with a HW of 300+110 Int ( Int Belts ) and tell me the outcome. Let me add there are various elemental armors and cards that endow the armor with elements. That wouldn't be much of a hassle since the gears focus completely towards defending. Not to mention any melee class could come by and kill you and nobody would want to drop their FK Helm or NYH for a poopoo.
Levis Posted May 22, 2008 Author Report Posted May 22, 2008 Agree with Zeit, I wouldn't change my FK Helm or NYH for a Poopoo Hat just to kill High Wizard's or any other.
Dave Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 Why does everyones idea about GTB have to have it block effects?,they are part of the game learn to get around them there are cards that help already with most effects,just because people cant be arsed to swop cards to get the immunity from things is no reason to add imunity to everything on the server to GTB.
Gilgamesh Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 Why does everyone's idea about GTB have to have it block effects?,they are part of the game learn to get around them there are cards that help already with most effects,just because people cant be arsed to swop cards to get the immunity from things is no reason to add immunity to everything on the server to GTB. 195 + Coma? You won't wanna die like in PvP in just 10seconds don't you? Afaik, only GTB Card stops Coma status and I don't recall playing a private server where a working GTB Card doesn't block Coma/Stone Curse.
Dave Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 Ok you say 195 att speed+ coma,why not lower the att speed? 180/5, or nerf the items that inflict coma,there are plenty of other ways to solve this problem without adding the immunity to GTB. Also GTB has never blocked any status effect,it only blocks what gets added to the script the original script for the card doesnt block status ailments. Just another thought,if everyone wants immunity to coma ,why not just add a new card that gives just that,instead of making one card do everything.
Gilgamesh Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 I tried to suggest that ASPD as well. 190~192 is nice but they support berry-spamming and crazy aspd's. Also, I would never know if it really didn't block Coma/Petrification like what you said since this is the first server I played where GTB is working/easy to get.
Emy Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 So how about cards for magic casters that go through GTB or counter GTB? That way nothing gets nerfed.
geldaz Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 So how about cards for magic casters that go through GTB or counter GTB? That way nothing gets nerfed. So how about you a new 210 QI brain for you? Quit your idea of wanting GTB normal. You don't even PvP,you know no fucking shit about what's good and not. EDIT: Eviting e-drama with immature and dumb people.
Terminus Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 195 + Coma? You won't wanna die like in PvP in just 10seconds don't you? Afaik, only GTB Card stops Coma status and I don't recall playing a private server where a working GTB Card doesn't block Coma/Stone Curse. Bathory blocks Coma. Also, if gtb blocks magic by 50%. Then someone can spam Jupitel Thunder rapidly with 2 Kiels or a Ninja with 2 Kiels and would make that 50% block useless.
Gilgamesh Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 Bathory blocks Coma. Bathory Card doesn't block Coma, afaik.
