Top 10 SinX's

[Pwnsauce]

Bandit- Your assassin sucks, and don't get mad that I won't join Nightfall after you begging me >.>

Remy- I'm 15, sorry

[Drax]

I have no idea as to why Drax is even mentioned in this topic.. He has yet to hit puberty. -relic

relic thats not wat ur mom said when i was fuckng her last night

[Eclipse]

I have no idea as to why Drax is even mentioned in this topic.. He has yet to hit puberty. -relic

relic thats not wat ur mom said when i was fuckng her last night

BOOM HEADSHOT!! own3z0rs kthxbai

[Denzel Crocker]

Honestly, besides Damascus does anyone else see the irony in this thread?

[Damascus]

Everybody here is immature !

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[Drax]

stfu?

[Damascus]

Quiet child. You have no say in this, you know that I'm correct.

[Terroryst]

Everybody here is immature !

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If everyone here acted mature or the same, it wouldn't be much fun would it. Savvy?

[Ethereal]

Please restrain yourselves from posting irrelevant comments, or else this topic will closed.

From MY opinion, personally, there is no best assassin cross for me. Most of the sins I see just know how to gang, SPAM yggdrasil berries, backslide, and etc.

[Damascus]

If everyone here acted mature or the same, it wouldn't be much fun would it. Savvy?

I guess you're correct on this but the majority of the immature adolescent children that play the game tend to have an ego overexceeding standards which in the end makes them seem pretty dense. I mean, they're good in a game but are they succeeding elsewhere? they grow in power for a game, but are they growing that other place in which height really would matter?

[Damascus]

Let me translate that for you.

There is no good class, because everybody spams yggs and uses skills?

Is that what you mean?

In general every class spams yggs and uses skills so if I'm correct, Bandit you have technically verbally owned her in these threads by rephrasing what she said to a much more simpler statement. So if theres no good class how do others kill others? are all the battles won by flukes? I highly doubt that, and if I'm correct, every class uses berries and skills.

[Pinkness]

1.Thi@go

2. Epic

3.Break yo Emp

4.Fatal

5.Blade

xD

[Ethereal]

That's not what I meant by spamming yggdrasil berries. What I meant that from the sins I see, all I see them doing is spamming yggdrasil berries even though they're not fighting yet. So for example, when they backslide in a duel, they still spam yggdrasil berries crazily.

And no I'm not technically a blond. And what I meant by backsliding was that when I fight some assassin crosses on my professor, high wizard, etc., they tend to backslide and then log out / go to character select. This is from my perspective. I'm only speaking my thoughts.

And this is only for some sins, there's still no best sin for me. It doesn't have to include YOU. I sincerely apologize if this supposedly directed towards you, and I wasn't specific enough.

[Damascus]

That's not what I meant by spamming yggdrasil berries. What I meant that from the sins I see, all I see them doing is spamming yggdrasil berries even though they're not fighting yet. So for example, when they backslide in a duel, they still spam yggdrasil berries crazily.

And no I'm not technically a blond. And what I meant by backsliding was that when I fight some assassin crosses on my professor, high wizard, etc., they tend to backslide and then log out / go to character select. This is from my perspective. I'm only speaking my thoughts.

Lord Knights entering in an intense battle with a Champion spam berries after every Asura Strike that the champion does or after every Throw Spirit Sphere that he/she pulls off, Once GTB gets nerfed every class will be spamming Yggdrasil Berries at a much faster rate to be able to avoid the mage class's magic. Soon after the Magical Classes recieve this blessing of uprise they too will be spamming skills senseless to defeat their opponent without dying, considering that Yggs and Skills apart from equipment is a powerful asset to the battle purpose of the game, they are simply using the healing as a tactic. Backslide is a skill used to evade enemies and give themselves time to prepare themselves while the enemy approaches them. Assassin Crosses that spam Yggdrasil Berries without even attacking an enemy means that they are going to be prepared for the battle and to destroy the enemy by all means regardless of if it will completely annihilate their storage of Yggs which in the end is a tactic. In battle, killing the opponent is your only goal so by all means anything done to destroy them is intelligent as long as it doesn't sacrifice themselves if they initiate the attack. I too am typing my thoughts out but unfortunately your thoughts go against mine hence I have to justify mine.

[L2Aim]

In general every class spams yggs and uses skills so if I'm correct, Bandit you have technically verbally owned her in these threads by rephrasing what she said to a much more simpler statement. So if theres no good class how do others kill others? are all the battles won by flukes? I highly doubt that, and if I'm correct, every class uses berries and skills.

Disgree on the berrying, when I still played sniper I most of the time PvPed without berries and survived (for it's standards) for a long time.

Not every class has to use them, it's just a habbit.

Epic, for example, uses red cans (very well) and plays LMS, WoE and PvP with it.

Berries are just one way to play and to recover your lost health during an intense fight.

Not all battles are won by flukes, but neither all battles are won because the other person is so much better.

What I do have to say is, some classes need berries and knowledge and skills in general (not the given skill tree skills).

Low HP modifiers make it harder to survive in certain circumstances,

other people/classes, like Ami said, spam berries without even doing anything yet.

May it be lag, a bad excuse or just being noob/too rich and complaing about overpricing, she has a point in that.

I'm not backing up anyone, I'm not vouching for this or that, just stating my opinion.

What I was trying to say is, no not every class spams berries, neither they have to use (their own) skills (much).

P.S. All sins fail, you guys should know how I think about them by now.

[Ethereal]

Disgree on the berrying, when I still played sniper I most of the time PvPed without berries and survived (for it's standards) for a long time.

Not every class has to use them, it's just a habbit.

Epic, for example, uses red cans (very well) and plays LMS, WoE and PvP with it.

Berries are just one way to play and to recover your lost health during an intense fight.

Not all battles are won by flukes, but neither all battles are won because the other person is so much better.

What I do have to say is, some classes need berries and knowledge and skills in general (not the given skill tree skills).

Low HP modifiers make it harder to survive in certain circumstances,

other people/classes, like Ami said, spam berries without even doing anything yet.

May it be lag, a bad excuse or just being noob/too rich and complaing about overpricing, she has a point in that.

I'm not backing up anyone, I'm not vouching for this or that, just stating my opinion.

What I was trying to say is, no not every class spams berries, neither they have to use (their own) skills (much).

P.S. All sins fail, you guys should know how I think about them by now.

Exactly my point. I thank you for that.

[Damascus]

Disgree on the berrying, when I still played sniper I most of the time PvPed without berries and survived (for it's standards) for a long time.

Not every class has to use them, it's just a habbit.

Epic, for example, uses red cans (very well) and plays LMS, WoE and PvP with it.

Berries are just one way to play and to recover your lost health during an intense fight.

Not all battles are won by flukes, but neither all battles are won because the other person is so much better.

What I do have to say is, some classes need berries and knowledge and skills in general (not the given skill tree skills).

Low HP modifiers make it harder to survive in certain circumstances,

other people/classes, like Ami said, spam berries without even doing anything yet.

May it be lag, a bad excuse or just being noob/too rich and complaing about overpricing, she has a point in that.

I'm not backing up anyone, I'm not vouching for this or that, just stating my opinion.

What I was trying to say is, no not every class spams berries, neither they have to use (their own) skills (much).

P.S. All sins fail, you guys should know how I think about them by now.

How do then Paladin vs. Paladin battles end? by berrying more than the other. There is no real way to win a battle unless you replenish your HP. Taken for example if I was to battle your sniper as a Paladin there would be no absolute outcome due to the variables that intervene with the battle such as both our equipments, ygg amount, weight capacity, etc..

I could possibly turn to use Sacrifice but then you could switch off into using GR + 2 Devilings + Usakoring and so I could keep Sacrificing until either one of us run out of yggs. When I used to battle against people on my Paladin I used to ygg like mad, what was the outcome? either one of us won, whoever ran out first or decided to not waste the final 20 or so. It's all about replenishing your HP. Ethereal, you should get your point out through your own thoughts and not try to use someone else as your point.

[L2Aim]

Every class has there advantages and disadvantages, do not doubt grafity its the way assassins are spose to be.

We get skills and we attend to use them to reach our goals. Backslide is a wonderfull skill.

We can use it to become better, its not like running away. Its very good to avoid gangs, or death if you can see it coming, lol.

Gravity never meant to make High Rate servers and make Assassins this overpowered.

Sins used to have low SP and were only able to backslide a few times.

Berries and SP recovering items were hard to obtain and thus it was cloaking instead of backslide spamming during events.

How do then Paladin vs. Paladin battles end? by berrying more than the other. There is no real way to win a battle unless you replenish your HP. Taken for example if I was to battle your sniper as a Paladin there would be no absolute outcome due to the variables that intervene with the battle such as both our equipments, ygg amount, weight capacity, etc..

I could possibly turn to use Sacrifice but then you could switch off into using GR + 2 Devilings + Usakoring and so I could keep Sacrificing until either one of us run out of yggs. When I used to battle against people on my Paladin I used to ygg like mad, what was the outcome? either one of us won, whoever ran out first or decided to not waste the final 20 or so. It's all about replenishing your HP. Ethereal, you should get your point out through your own thoughts and not try to use someone else as your point.

They end quick and bloody, perhaps in a draw, as you said, it all depends on gears.

But what I was saying is, people just berry too much unneccessary.

I don't care they are wasting their money, time, effort in something like this,

but their ego is too much boosted if they are able to kill a certain person

(with help of 5 others and then laughing and talking in their own language).

And for the option you gave me to explain a Sniper, Paladin duel, I could say what to do instead,

which is, use the unused skills more.

GR+Devilings+Usakoring, Coma, Holy Cross, Grand Cross, people have kiels right?

About recovering HP, they got a boosted skill called heal.

Snipers on the other hand will have to rely on trapping(which most people fail to do so),

it takes time to master these traps and to position and use them right.

Fights without berries don't last as long as you'd like to see them,

but people are analysing, trying different things and improvising during fights a lot more.

This makes people better at playing their class, use their HP/SP well and don't go in fights

without thinking what the enemy could do next.

This would raise the level of skilled players significant and make fights during events

a lot better and more interesting.

Ofcourse, you will reply with a counter argument, which is fine.

But I just said my point of view and that was all I intented to do.

P.S. Stay on topic.

[Damascus]

Gravity never meant to make High Rate servers and make Assassins this overpowered.

Sins used to have low SP and were only able to backslide a few times.

Berries and SP recovering items were hard to obtain and thus it was cloaking instead of backslide spamming during events.

They end quick and bloody, perhaps in a draw, as you said, it all depends on gears.

But what I was saying is, people just berry too much unneccessary.

I don't care they are wasting their money, time, effort in something like this,

but their ego is too much boosted if they are able to kill a certain person

(with help of 5 others and then laughing and talking in their own language).

And for the option you gave me to explain a Sniper, Paladin duel, I could say what to do instead,

which is, use the unused skills more.

GR+Devilings+Usakoring, Coma, Holy Cross, Grand Cross, people have kiels right?

About recovering HP, they got a boosted skill called heal.

Snipers on the other hand will have to rely on trapping(which most people fail to do so),

it takes time to master these traps and to position and use them right.

Fights without berries don't last as long as you'd like to see them,

but people are analysing, trying different things and improvising during fights a lot more.

This makes people better at playing their class, use their HP/SP well and don't go in fights

without thinking what the enemy could do next.

This would raise the level of skilled players significant and make fights during events

a lot better and more interesting.

Ofcourse, you will reply with a counter argument, which is fine.

But I just said my point of view and that was all I intented to do.

P.S. Stay on topic.

Unfortunately no matter how you analyze the battle if the opposing class hits incredibly high damages that could wipe out the most part of your HP, you will need to replenish your HP to full and if they wipe out let's say 2/3'd of your HP every second, you will have to YGG per second so if they could wipe it out and survive while ygging their ygg per second, I think they have accomplished their goal in battling. The purpose of RO's PvP is to battle and destroy the other enemy nothing else. To be better at a class you have to be actually devoted to it, know how to survive different classes as that one class and even if you can't kill them all actually be humble about your losses or victories. If you have to ygg like mad and spam skills in order to acheieve your victory then so be it, you have in the end destroyed your enemy and successfully completed the mission of killing them and thats it. If anything else comes across as a variable to the final outcome then you should survive it regardless of what you have to do and if you could constantly to that then in the end you are better at the class than others that cannot achieve survival and victory in a battle.

[Damascus]

I've had a suggestion to nerf Backslide and Body Relocate due to the fact that they're for Low Rates where SP doesn't come easily and it's a crappy way to evade people. But everybody complained about it.

[L2Aim]

For your information backslide dident get better, only because we got kiel-d01?

Or allot of SP? I dont think you played a low-rate as long as i did.

Backslide was even nicer on a low rate, you cant spam it as often. Or spam it as fast as now.

But you could avoid asura, it will miss if you're more then 5 cells away from the enemy.

It can avoid firebolts or any other single target magic attack, if you ask me backslide only got owned in high rates. And bluepotions are never to expensive.

Blue potions weren't originally available through the NPC, private servers did do that since their emulator had that as a default.

I played LR for 4 years total, so I think I have decent knowledge.

Also, backslide doesn't get owned here, you simply are using FBH cards.

If asura would miss if you're more than 5 cells away the skills was bugged, it's range was screenview once casted.

Status alignments such as freeze or stone curse were used before casting any other magic spells in PvP.

So avoiding those would be hard without being able to move.

And it's very hard to abuse the GTB almost everyone has, dodge the bolts and then backslide.

Kiels on the other hand make it easier to backslide,

since the delay on backslide is affected by both the stat agility and by reduced cast-delay cards.

Edit: I'm pro nerfing those skills a lot, it's too abusive.

[Icon]

paranoia agent

break yo emp

shadowzcross

signal

epic

sanoske

baccus

double blades of fury

tamahome

nido

first blood

last

damascus

fatal

blade

a wanted criminal

thiago

ethernal

holy sinx

blackeye

inamoto

supre onvi

bandit

frilly

does bogo play anymore?

was gonna put me on the list but this is good sins only

[L2Aim]

Why nerf it its not like it got any better.

It will be less used, it will reduce the ever lasting LMS time.

And players will have to resort to other methods of escaping.

[nnnitsuj]

As said, there is NO best Sinx here. No need for arguements cause all of these are all in the matter of opinion.

As for MY list:

1. Animus`

2. Blade

3. Break Yo Emp

4. Epic

5. NiDo

6. Shire

[Damascus]

Negative. A thread about 1 class creates such controversy as it is thus a thread about multiple classes would create much more turmoil throughout the server while people try to prove who is better then others in a game which in the end would end up with people going emotionally disrupt.

I assure you my theory of the possible outcome of reviving the topic is accurate, probably more accurate than any of your assumptions, choices and theories you have or may create so let's stick to it.

This is similar since the people that play this class are as to what Fuzzy stated. Nice observation Fuzzy, +10 Pts. for you.