L2Aim Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 I want to rebalance this server. How you may ask? Well considering 95% of people who you get killed by is a sinx I think we have a slightly overpowered class there. We can solve this by just killing sins on sight untill there is some kind of balance. Lots of classes aren't played because everyone wants to 'own' so they make sins. Counter balance it with all the other classes we got, show them other classes can be good too. Just kill all sins, if they're in your guild, kill them too or let other friends kill those. Fight for your balance!
Sapphirel Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 I kill them with reflect most of the time. Not too much of a problem. I don't think this will work out even if it was brought of by good intentions.
Gilgamesh Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 My Clown kills most of them SB Sin-Xs with just a spam of AV. EDIT: Inviting them to a duel in a non-YGG room is a better idea. That is where you can take advantage.
~Ethernal Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 What about '' Gunslingers '' ? That's even worst..
Eclipse Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 on the last 5 days sinx started to get sucky and boring and too much waste of items (EDPS BERRIES BOS CONVERTORS AND BADGES) so most % of the ppl decided to become LK like me... since LK era is starting to rise and own the server slowly...
Sapphirel Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 Gunslingers doesn't stand a chance with an anti-thana build. Even if they were to resort to Incantation Samurai, their damage would be much lower and shouldn't pose as a threat.
Gilgamesh Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 He is a sniper. It is kind of hard to kill a sin-x with the crappy HP he got. The traps are even useless most of the time, except for Skid and Snare. You guys are Paladins and LKs, which are one of the few classes which can tank their overpowered damages. The point imo, is to use other job classes that are rarely used and own Sin-Xs with the rarely used classes.
Grim Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 @Topic: Because you spelled it so horribly wrong, I think I'll pass. But have fun. <3
Ethereal Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 I don't mind the assassin crosses, but my only problem wih them is their Sonic Blow. The only skill they have is to get SL and kiels then spam it. If they miss or they don't kill, they just backslide and run like mad. Also, when they get dispelled they just fail.
Damascus Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 I don't mind the assassin crosses, but my only problem wih them is their Sonic Blow. The only skill they have is to get SL and kiels then spam it. If they miss or they don't kill, they just backslide and run like mad. Also, when they get dispelled they just fail. Eh, Ami is right on this. Assassin Cross in general aren't bad classes, it's just that they are poorly used or used for only 1 attack skill (Sonic Blow). So you could count me out of this thanks to Ami changing my mind. I'll just kill whoever the hell attacks her or me. Yes Ami, I'll KS you <3
Ethereal Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 Also, to whoever is going to argue with me about Sonic Blow Assassin's, they also have a downside to them. Professors & high wizards can spam magic as much as they want to these asssassins. Like my professor, whenever I face a sonic blow sin, I saftey wall + wall of fog. So making them miss, then I dispell + spam an element of bolts, causing them to YGG like mad and face the massive amount of damage, or run away and log. But to those Sonic Blow assassins, the assassin class have a different variety of skills to use. Classes like gypsy & clown are mainly based on AV, but do you really think assassins are just based on sonic blow? So my suggestion is to have a different variety of skills to use, not just sonic blow, backslide, cloak, or even just log out when dispelled.
L2Aim Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Posted February 11, 2008 He is a sniper. It is kind of hard to kill a sin-x with the crappy HP he got. The traps are even useless most of the time, except for Skid and Snare. You guys are Paladins and LKs, which are one of the few classes which can tank their overpowered damages. The point imo, is to use other job classes that are rarely used and own Sin-Xs with the rarely used classes. It's not just because I am a sniper (I played on LK too,Yes I got one and fucked a lot people up). It's the whole gameplay, TOO much sins are playing, TOO much things are about this class. If it's a rant, sins are involved. If it's the best player, sins are like always in the top? If people lose from some other class, they switch to their sinx. That's what I mean, learn to play with other classes, stop the flood of sinx. @Topic: Because you spelled it so horribly wrong, I think I'll pass. But have fun. <3 You fail at ranting. Plus fuck being perfect at english, no one is, sorry, it's not my main language and I don't care. If something is wrong, say what is wrong so people will learn from their mistakes, instead of making fun out of them. kthxbye. I don't mind the assassin crosses, but my only problem wih them is their Sonic Blow. The only skill they have is to get SL and kiels then spam it. If they miss or they don't kill, they just backslide and run like mad. Also, when they get dispelled they just fail. Read my first reply to Gilgamesh. But yea SB is part of it, actually I should make a suggestion for that. Either SL or EDP should be able to be applied, if either is used the other effect will be cancelled. --- Thanks for the support, that's what I want to see =)
Versace Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 @Topic: Because you spelled it so horribly wrong, I think I'll pass. But have fun. <3 His first language isn't English. Give him a break. The point of the campaign has no part in spelling either way, it's the meaning behind it.
Damascus Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 The people who use the Sonic Blow build virtually have no experience with RO hence they resort to that one skill. Have you not noticed that most of those people *cough*Seekanddestroy*cough* are only Assassin Crosses and if ever a Champion to Asura Strike? They don't know anything else to do hence they resort to one solid skill to do their killing. Theres no argument Ami don't worry.
~RyuShin~ Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 The people who use the Sonic Blow build virtually have no experience with RO hence they resort to that one skill. Have you not noticed that most of those people *cough*Seekanddestroy*cough* are only Assassin Crosses and if ever a Champion to Asura Strike? They don't know anything else to do hence they resort to one solid skill to do their killing. Theres no argument Ami don't worry. Damascus i want to duel you 1 on 1 sinx vs sinx "NORMAL TYPE" thanks...
Grim Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 You fail at ranting. Plus fuck being perfect at english, no one is, sorry, it's not my main language and I don't care. If something is wrong, say what is wrong so people will learn from their mistakes, instead of making fun out of them. kthxbye. Look, L2, you typed well otherwise, so I'd not known that English was not your first language. In that, I apologize. However, in your idea, I find the flaw in this: singling out and attempting to gang-upon an entire class on account of a group's skewed perception of the purpose behind PvP is, for lack of a better term, overly discriminatory. For that matter, we should hunt down every notorious, or even one-time, random PK-er on the server, because it's not fair that they abuse the idea of 'surprise-attack' when the true sport and challenge lies in an open, properly organized duel. That being said, I do find the number of Assassin Crosses in proportion to that of other classes to be disappointing; the last time I'd been on a server where that happened, it wasn't long before old-timers began leaving for more balanced servers, and the population dwindled to the few overpowered SinX still sticking to what they built. If anything, the only reasonable thing to do would be to setup a parameter which began to weaken a SinX character after X-number of PKs. Obviously, this would be a high number, but it would, if nothing else, either slow the growth of the SinX population, or lessen the need for them now, as not many people really want to go through the trouble of constantly remaking a SinX because they kill too much with it. That's the only plausible idea I have ready, and again, while I apologize for misjudging your mistake, I must stress that I have a strong respect for the English language, or at least what's left of it - I can't help being a Grammar/Spelling Nazi sometimes. <3 @Versace: I realize this now, and have apologized.
Damascus Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 I'm definately not gonna read that shit but, let's try not to flame in this thread.
Damascus Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 Some people take that as flaming. How do you think I got 90% warn.
Grim Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 I'll take my chances. An opinion posted without malice is just an opinion; if it is assumed to be anything to the contrary, then that is the fault of the reader, not the poster. If you want, I can send you e-hugs for your warn-level. :]
Damascus Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 GMs, could I leave my thoughts without hitting 100% warn please? Leave your thoughts. Thanks.
Grim Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 Technically, Mike, complaining about a SinX using SB as their build is like complaining about a Champ using Asura as their build, or a Creator using AD as theirs. Or a Sacrifice Paladin, SG Wizard, LSoI Ninja, Desperado GS...
L2Aim Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Posted February 11, 2008 I wasn't complaining about just Sonic Blow. I was talking about the overpopulated class called Assassin Cross. So can we all please just stick to the topic.
Grim Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 Look, L2, you typed well otherwise, so I'd not known that English was not your first language. In that, I apologize. However, in your idea, I find the flaw in this: singling out and attempting to gang-upon an entire class on account of a group's skewed perception of the purpose behind PvP is, for lack of a better term, overly discriminatory. For that matter, we should hunt down every notorious, or even one-time, random PK-er on the server, because it's not fair that they abuse the idea of 'surprise-attack' when the true sport and challenge lies in an open, properly organized duel. That being said, I do find the number of Assassin Crosses in proportion to that of other classes to be disappointing; the last time I'd been on a server where that happened, it wasn't long before old-timers began leaving for more balanced servers, and the population dwindled to the few overpowered SinX still sticking to what they built. If anything, the only reasonable thing to do would be to setup a parameter which began to weaken a SinX character after X-number of PKs. Obviously, this would be a high number, but it would, if nothing else, either slow the growth of the SinX population, or lessen the need for them now, as not many people really want to go through the trouble of constantly remaking a SinX because they kill too much with it. That's the only plausible idea I have ready, and again, while I apologize for misjudging your mistake, I must stress that I have a strong respect for the English language, or at least what's left of it - I can't help being a Grammar/Spelling Nazi sometimes. <3 @Versace: I realize this now, and have apologized.
