TensaZangetsu Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 i suggest for the new eri's book to 2% chance to cast link on the user, because it get's really annoying getting dispel every time and having to get link again and again and again. It's impossible to kill without link cause your damage range from 6k-13k also increase the stave dmg by like 150% cause i do 6k on gtb users. They're many ways to counter, such as gtb, angeling and maya, just like you would for a prof or wizard, so i don't see this being op.
Seraphine Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) I disagree with being able to get link at 2% chance really you should get link on your own(if priests get link every other class will want link),along with that i feel priest is a support class so it's not really meant to kill other classes. Edited July 30, 2011 by Seraphine
Veggie&Mac Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 i Disagree, like Serapio priest are supporter but doesnt mean you cant pvp with priest. is like every class suggests 2% Chance to get fcp coz of creators.
TensaZangetsu Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) well sorry my laptop so shitty i can't even duel client and of course everyone want's link, but it doesn't cripple any class if you don't have it, on the other hand battle priest must have link to have a decent damage to even come close to other classes. I thought this server was over with the "this class is a certain class therefore it shouldn't get this kind of buff". So lets just change stalker sniper and gunslinger weapons back to 1 handed and go old school pioneers. This server has been working on balancing out every class in pvp and trying to show its true potential in EVERY CLASS, so why can't priest get the same benefit? This will only promote the class. I didn't just suggest this out my ass i actually thought about it and how will it effect the server. Edited July 31, 2011 by TensaZangetsu
Seraphine Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 If every class got what they wanted things would be imbalanced.
TensaZangetsu Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) I made this topic for a specific class, who said anything about other classes beside priest? you're not staying on topic and How will priest be OP with 2% chance of casting link on its user when atking? I mean Prof has like one of the most highest DPS dmg in game and comparing it to priest is like comparing it to a crossbow and hand gun. Edited July 31, 2011 by TensaZangetsu
Seraphine Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) I never said anything about other classes all i'm saying is if every class got every thing they wanted things wouldn't be balanced,honestly why can't we give every class link then? why are priests so special? That would be overpowered if priests could get link with a few hits to people,in my opinion priests do pretty good right now. Edited July 31, 2011 by Seraphine
kuoch Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 Well, there's no problem with it. I don't see the harm, not like any other classes doesn't have what they want already. Let alone every other weapon is already over-powered if you haven't notice yet, I mean look at LKs Glimmer Sword. It has parry. Roflcopter right? This book isn't bad at all, and I know priest are made to support and all, but it's pretty boring having priest for just supportive all the time. And I'm hoping we're talking about priest here. Cause' I would love to explore how a great battle priest can be with the right weapon and effects. But if this goes for Professors or Wizards, I would likely have to say no.
TensaZangetsu Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) I never said anything about other classes all i'm saying is if every class got every thing they wanted things wouldn't be balanced,honestly why can't we give every class link then? why are priests so special? That would be overpowered if priests could get link with a few hits to people,in my opinion priests do pretty good right now."If every class got what they wanted things would be imbalanced." you're contradicting yourself. i'm talking about this specific class not wizard, prof nor sniper ONLY PRIEST. You know very well that the only way a priest can kill is with link right? I mean not with coma and all that, a good sustainable damage. Cause i assume you've test this weapon out for a good couple hours before posting here. The main down side to having link is ANYONE can dispel link, could be prof, valk rangris card or a valk rangris hat and not only you can dispel it but they can use gtb, angeling and maya against it, so poof link gone and we're useless again. so please put some effort into your argument and tell me how to counter this situation im in, cause it seem like you know alot and don't say use gtb cause i tried that and still took heavy damage with full reductions and stave damage is weak as i mention in my other post that i did 6k-13k on gtb users. Test it out yourself if you don't believe me shittt possibly less. wait wait waaait, have you even tested out the weapon or you even haveee the weapon? Edited July 31, 2011 by TensaZangetsu
Dudu Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkk if its about matk, i can defend myself. Like Kouch said, i dont see anyy harm on this suggestion, because like, tons of classes has the things that they wanted ( Prof=Stave ). Plus, gettin link at 2% of the time, plus the super dispell on the VR card or the Prof skill, it would be almost imposible to stay with the link. I remember one day that someone told me that Proffesors are a supportive class lmao, and Priest, imo, has WAY too many ways to actually pwn in the battlefield. Fro gave them a chance to boost the pvp priest by adding this book and stave crasher but guess what? Without link you cannot kill with holy light, not even with MB and no link, so i + 2 this suggestion.
Beautiful Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 i disagree on 2% Link but +1 for Stave Increase. Priest should have a shot at being played as a pvp class rather then a support.
Decode Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 I will +1 this suggestion, for the simple reason that Kuoch convinced me. With a proper PvP geared priest with Soul Link you get like what 40k - 60k damage per Holy Light, snipers get that easy, I won't even mention Assassin Cross, Chain Asuras, Gunslingers with super desperado spam, the super awesome proffs... Why can't we give priest a break? why can't we make the difference and make a Supportive class be more PvP based?
jollyv Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) +1 this suggestion. but i think a priest should get a 5% link because 2% seems pretty low since its very easy to dispell especially with the drooping valk hat and valk rangris card. also because all the other classes are OP. compared to the priest. GS, Stalker, Sniper all get 1 handed + bonus damages on their weapon. and a shield. and when they gtb against the priest, a priests stave crasher does weak damage. compared to proffs and wiz. it should be 200% more damage with stave crasher. its not going to imbalance anything, just to improve one class. to stand up and pvp instead of just always supporter. Edited July 31, 2011 by jollyv
TensaZangetsu Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) i couldn't agree with you more jolly, but not only will it improve the class but also more people will want the weapon = more donations, that's always a plus for the server. Edited July 31, 2011 by TensaZangetsu
Fabre Stalker Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 I agree with this one ;o give HPs more of a fighting chance!
Pisces Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 I agree with this one ;o give HPs more of a fighting chance! geez they supporter class .__. dont chu get it...
TensaZangetsu Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) geez they supporter class .__. dont chu get it...okay they're a support class, and so? that only apply to low rate, this is high rate server and our server has the mind set of every class should of it's equal power in pvp, since our server runs on pvp therefore there would not be as many loyal players as we have now. Edited July 31, 2011 by TensaZangetsu
Xtopher Posted August 1, 2011 Report Posted August 1, 2011 Disagree. Auto link would mess up priest vs reflectors. Sometimes you need to NOT be linked. Plus, the book is useful for other builds than just the HL...
nines Posted August 1, 2011 Report Posted August 1, 2011 Disagree same as Chris' said. And jolly 200% more stave would be beyond op prof and wizzy has nothing to do with the dmg output aside from volcano etc
TensaZangetsu Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Posted August 1, 2011 Disagree. Auto link would mess up priest vs reflectors. Sometimes you need to NOT be linked. Plus, the book is useful for other builds than just the HL...as in reflect you mean maya? every class has to deal with some kind of reflect it could be ethier maya user or reflect from a paladin, its the nature of pvp and how efficient you opponent could be, the exact same thing applies to prof, i could slap 2x tao, strong shield with maya in it and hope he dies, same situation but different class and the only build i could think of is coma and asura and possibly fireblend and falchon, but really are all those build really efficient or mainly base on luck?
TheRawr Posted August 2, 2011 Report Posted August 2, 2011 Just Add the ability to cast soul link on the weapon, without it u are only doing like 8-10k damage with an int build. Also there are many counters to holy light: GTB, Angeling, Maya. People complaining bout holy light with a soul link, how bout: Archers have FAS and with poring cards u do 55kish damage normal Whitesmith has Pneuma and are able to pump out 30k spammable throws normal Etc, Etc. Give int priests a chance to be pvp viable.
Sorrow Posted August 2, 2011 Report Posted August 2, 2011 "2% chance of auto-casting Soul Link on the user." Now for an important set of questions that can be considered a single one; While being attacked? While attacking? Or while making a magic attack? Its a kind of an important detail to just skim through you know...
TensaZangetsu Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Posted August 2, 2011 @sorrow, yea i made it clear like so many times ^^ but things could change depending on what the whole economy wants
TheRawr Posted August 2, 2011 Report Posted August 2, 2011 well seeing how holy light is a complex thing to mess with cause u can go from like 10k holy light damage and end up doing like 70k with a link, why dont we just do a similar thing like with the bio weapon and add Cold/fire Bolts to this one and help stave damage out.