Ferocious Posted July 19, 2011 Report Posted July 19, 2011 I was wondering if we can change the effect of Skoll Card. We have to pay over 10 000 tokens just to have a Thanatos Card and Skoll Card are 5 tokens each. If Skoll Card could make Thanatos Card damage like a normal damage(In example, with Assassin Cross, you can make 16-20k damage with 1 dagger with Incan Card depending if the people you're attacking have shield or no). It would be good. Right now, Thanatos Card user have to buy 2 same items just to use there Thanatos Card. Like 2 Sniper Soaring Bird, etc. For an amount of 10 Tokens, people who had Skolls card can reduces damage of Thanatos Card by over 100k. I hope you'll understand what I mean because people who have that card work very hard to get it and people who have Skolls Cards don't really need to do it. Thank You.
nines Posted July 19, 2011 Report Posted July 19, 2011 Im partial on this because u can use it for more strategic like in woe and gangings. If it were able to do super dmg in a 1v1 u can dmg everyone so easy would be op as shit
Ferocious Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Posted July 19, 2011 Well the damage is reduced ALOT. If it was only reduced like a normal damage, it would be nice.
hazel Posted July 19, 2011 Report Posted July 19, 2011 I agree with ferocious... no further explanation, he explained his (our side) very well..
supream Posted July 19, 2011 Report Posted July 19, 2011 if you can afford to buy a thanatos card then you can afford to buy 2 weapons. doing 90k- oblivion damage with no way to reduce it wouldnt make people wana play this game. skolls lower vit defense that should signal you to use a certain combination of cards already. thanatos is used in gangs and getting people off guard. the only class that can use thanatos without having it be nullified are champions.
Ferocious Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Posted July 19, 2011 Well yea. If I can afford for Thanatos Card, I can for 2 Weps. But well, 2 weps for each class I play? That mean over 7 class? I'm not saying to don't reduce the damage, I'm saying to reduce it like a normal damage( A damage like someone who don't use Thanatos Card). For the price of Thanatos Card, I would like to have more advantage lol.
Halion Posted July 19, 2011 Report Posted July 19, 2011 people set their price, i can sell my thanatos for 2k and some lucky guy will get it cheap, thanatos card is just a card, yeah its effect rocks but for everything there is someway to counter it just need to know what to use
Ferocious Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Posted July 20, 2011 yea. but you still need to have 2 weps for each class or more and who will sell thanatos card for 2 k now? no one
Sorrow Posted July 20, 2011 Report Posted July 20, 2011 Sir, thanatos card is supposed to be a tactical advantage, a luxury, not a freaking overpowered all-around-kill-everything-no-matter-what-they-equip, it is powerful enough as it is; in some cases you can instantly kill an opponent in a single blow, i've seen Lord Knights hit 300k bowling bash on people without skollls. The server is really doing the best it can(by hard work of the staff testing and employing many new ideas to help balance) to be more newbe-friendly, giving an even larger edge to already super cheap and overinflated items that belong to moneybags is NOT the right way to balance out both gameplay and new/old member's play level. Also, sir, keep in mind that nerfing Skoll to buff even more something that's already way too powerful, you're also nerfing Inca. And further nerfing classes of lower health pool who need gigantic amounts of vit to get HP anywhere near descent. Gotta think well about a suggestion you're making and try and see beyond your own nose. "oh i 'worked so hard' for this 9k toks piece of junk! i can kill people withoput skolls in a couple seconds, but i should be able to kill everything without ever changing weapon by using it, regardless of what they use!" >.> i call that, sir, complaining on a bellyfull. tl;dr=suggestion suks, me no aproves. Have a good day Sir.
Ferocious Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Posted July 20, 2011 Lol? I didn't say to remove that card. I say to make it do a normal damage when the people you're attacking put 2 skolls. And yea, I worked hard to have that 9 k tokens. Almost 1 years and half and I got helped alot. If not I would still trying to get it. By the way, they add the thanatos card before skoll card. If you frequent old fro's player, they'll all say they miss old time. Not only because of that but, but a part because of that lol. It sure, almost all people who don't have thana will say its not a good suggestions. And more, Skoll Card is in cloak. I always use Skoll+Ray or almost everytime. With those cards, Thana user can't kill me with there thana and normal asura don't even do me more than half of my hp. I wouldn't make that suggestion if skoll card was in boots(witch would be better because u would have to sacrifice an FBH or a usefull card. Yea, when people don't use skoll, Thanatos Card is overpowered. That's why we pay 10 k for it or more. But when the people use skoll, you're thana worth nothing and it's just a waste of weapons. And btw, it matter what you were vs thana. more you got defense, more you're damage is high. learn 2 play before replying something who is not true :P. "You too, have a good day."
TensaZangetsu Posted July 20, 2011 Report Posted July 20, 2011 disagree, sorrow had a really good point
Ferocious Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Posted July 20, 2011 Well, There is good and bad thing if you change the effect of skolls, thats true. I know its a major changement but, it's just a suggestion's ^_^
OverRated Posted July 20, 2011 Report Posted July 20, 2011 So overall this post is to Improve your gameplay and make you happy? i have a thana and yes i would love this suggestion but in reality Thanatos card is good in a strategic point of view. Why do you think they implimented skolls? to just laugh and be like look we fucked up the best card in the game? No it was to balance the server. Ya you spent 10k on a card. and that was YOUR choice. The GM's didnt decide to set a price the players did. The pricing for items is set to what Players want and how much they sell for. And 2 weps for each class isnt that bad. I understand with the new Valk Weps at like 1k each getting 2 of each wep is useless but then again if you throw down 10k then you got some to spare. look beyond what you need and look at the server. at the click of a button you can easliy do the same amount of damage like anyone else. The damage with normal thana is like 1k= 6k depending on the person. while someone has Skolls. Thana does tons of damage in general. And if you complain so much about your thana then just sell it and buy other stuff.
Ferocious Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Posted July 20, 2011 I'm not mad about buying thana 10 k. For me it worth it but it would be nice if it can do a normal damage even if they were skolls. And no, I'm not making that post to make me happy, I'm making it for the server :P.
Aerynth Posted July 20, 2011 Report Posted July 20, 2011 Sir, thanatos card is supposed to be a tactical advantage, a luxury, not a freaking overpowered all-around-kill-everything-no-matter-what-they-equip, it is powerful enough as it is; in some cases you can instantly kill an opponent in a single blow, i've seen Lord Knights hit 300k bowling bash on people without skollls. The server is really doing the best it can(by hard work of the staff testing and employing many new ideas to help balance) to be more newbe-friendly, giving an even larger edge to already super cheap and overinflated items that belong to moneybags is NOT the right way to balance out both gameplay and new/old member's play level. Also, sir, keep in mind that nerfing Skoll to buff even more something that's already way too powerful, you're also nerfing Inca. And further nerfing classes of lower health pool who need gigantic amounts of vit to get HP anywhere near descent. Gotta think well about a suggestion you're making and try and see beyond your own nose. "oh i 'worked so hard' for this 9k toks piece of junk! i can kill people withoput skolls in a couple seconds, but i should be able to kill everything without ever changing weapon by using it, regardless of what they use!" >.> i call that, sir, complaining on a bellyfull. tl;dr=suggestion suks, me no aproves. Have a good day Sir. FOR THE WIN! I'm no thana user, but I agree fully on this. This just makes the server balance and give other player a chance to be equal with those who have the luxury to have a thana card. They shouldn't have all the rights to be God above all players and I too, plan to get a thana card in the distant future.
Ferocious Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Posted July 20, 2011 Btw the Strategic thing is a good point.
Seraphine Posted July 20, 2011 Report Posted July 20, 2011 Sorrow and OvereRated had really good points.If your going to make it so Thanatos does more damage on skolls,your imbalancing things players who use/have Thanatos shouldn't get that luxury to make it so they don't have to change over to incantation samurai.
Adum* Posted July 20, 2011 Report Posted July 20, 2011 man, thats your fucking problem! you bought/got thana! dont qq about it. there aint any easy win.
Ferocious Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Posted July 20, 2011 Relax man i don't have any problem. It's just a suggestions as i said before. Maybe in you're mind it's not a good sugestions but don't be mad lmao
xXxJCxXx Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 Is this even possible to implement? I'm trying to imagine how they would implement this (scripts). And I have gone mad already. For the suggestion it's a no no for me. Doesn't matter how much you paid for something what matters is whenever you encounter a situation and you are at disadvantage try to find a counter to it (In this case having two valk weapons as you mentioned already). If there's no counter to it then that's where the imbalance comes in and we can always do suggestions about things imbalance here(hooray for fro!). 1
Veracity Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 Sorrow already covered all of the reasons why we would never accept this. Implementing something like this would completely counter everything we've been trying to work towards. - Rejected -
