Guest lolensue Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 FANTASY SUGGESTIONS!!!! LOL I have lots of suggestions in my mind, i was thinking of them as "good" for the server :D i separated this from the major suggestion topic because this comes with lots of suggestions and was made when i got bored inside a bus and made this in a MSWord Valkyrie Weapon Suggestion(changes) 1. Lord Knight Black Halberd 100% Spiral Pierce Damage -10% After-cast delay Str+20 Dex+15 Vit+10 5% chance to cast dispell when attacking 150 flat SP bonus. Justification: On what I've heard, Spiral Pierce damage is now 100%, if that isnt the right percentage of spiral pierce damage, then what i meant of the damage of spiral pierce here is the damage % of the current spiral pierce on the weap. Demi-human damage was removed, and was changed with a chance to cast dispell when attacking which is quite useful when facing multiple classes. 150 SP bonus because LK's need the SP to spam. Stat changed from Str+15 Dex+20 Vit+10 to Str+20 Dex+15 Vit+10 for suitable little damage increase. 2. Assassin Cross Dexterity Black Oriental Sword +50 Hit, +10% damage to demi-humans Dex+ 30 Str+10 +5% max HP increase 5% chance of gaining 20% of attack as HP or every point of dexterity increases damage dealt. +5 aspd Justification: Current Assassin Cross Dex Sword doesnt even sound dex because no dex was seen on the stats. +50 hit was added to make it sound "dex-based" and to partially remove +hit cards/items and replace them with another card/item, Dex stat is mainly given priority with this suggestion and str+10 as small damage addition. +5% Max HP is given for bonus synergy with the 5% chance of gaining 20% of attack as HP. Both will be null if the other bonus is suggested. 3. Stalker Black Oriental Sword Str+ 20 Agi+10 Vit+10 +25% demi-human damage +10% max HP +5% physical reflect +5 aspd 20% chance of casting level 5 reject sword when being attacked. Justification: As what ive noticed, current stalker oriental is a meh weapon, doesn't really meet the requirements of magic type stalkers (i have a suggestion for magic type stalkers too, weapon specifically). This change is mainly to make Stalker Black Oriental Sword a melee/strength type. I changed the stats to Str+20 Agi+10 Vit+10 and mainly focused a bit more on strength and melee power. +10 Max HP is to tank a little bit because this suggestion got no reducts and instead has +5% physical reflect to have a synergy with its HP add. chance of reject sword was lowered down to 20% because i added up +5% physical reflect. 4. Professor Highness Staff Int+ 35 Vit+ 15 Max SP +15% Max HP +5% MATK +30% Enables the use of Stave crasher lvl 1, +15% stave crasher damage. Enables the use of lvl 10 enlarge weight limit. Justification: Current Prof Highness got a Str+35 bonus. I asked myself "what is the Str for when the weap is mainly for magic proffs, not melee proffs". Well you can talk about the handsight skill here and balance your stats between str and int but seriously, the weapon is mainly for magic only. On this suggestion, i removed the str bonus and replaced with vit+15 and max HP +5% for HP purposes. MATK and Int bonus are same as the current staff and +15% stave crasher damage because proffs really need a small boost on that. 5. Clown/Gypsy Soaring Bird Dex+ 20 Int+ 10 Agi+25 +10% damage to demi-humans 20% chance to cast lvl 10 Arrow Vulcan when attacking +20% double strafe damage 5% chance to lvl 5 tarot card of fate to attacking enemy when being attacked. Justification: Stat rebalanced, lowered damage to demi humans. Lowered the chance of casting tarot and added a chance of casting lvl 10 arrow vulcan when attacking. Who would not love to see double strafe+arrow vulcan at the same time? The damage will be okay as far as i have seen clowns double strafe, and when i calculated the damage with both, the total is enough and is only by a chance tho. Tarot really is an annoying skill of clowns/gypsys thats why i lowered down the chance to 5% and compensated it with a chance of arrow vulcan. Valkyrie Weapon Suggestions(creation) 1. Stalker White Rabbit +30int +20dex +30% MATK +15% max SP +10% max HP enables the use of lvl 5 water ball and lvl 5 heavens drive enables the use of lvl 10 enlarge weight limit reduce casting time by 25% Justification: I used white rabbit for stalker magic types because its just cute and i think its good to look at with stalkers, if they can create a new sprite for this it would be awesome!. :) Stats goes to +30 int and +20dex and 30% MATK, slightly copied and balanced the old stalker oriental sword stats. Added +10% max HP since magic types are really fragile, and enables the use of lvl 5 waterball and heavens drive, so they get a default magic spell. Reduce casting time by 25% so that less dex will be added to them thus reduced in spell damage(just a little bit because some dex gives a little damage even to spells). 2. Assassin Magical Dagger/Assassin Magical Scepter +30 int +10str +10agi +50% soul destroyer damage +15% SP +5 aspd -10% after cast delay 5% chance to cast lex aeterna or 5% chance to cast lvl 10 soul destroyer when attacking Justification: This is mainly for soul destroyer types which bonuses on stats are mainly for that skill. +50% soul destroyer damage is added to give a bit more damage to soul destroyer, as far as i have surveyed about soul destroyer types, most people told me soul destroyer is not really effective on Pvp because they would lack weight because some of the stat points are distributed to int, and other necessary stats. Enlarge weight limit was not added to this weapon so that there is a risk. -10% aftercast delay is given for more fast swingin'! the additional chance of casting lex aeterna OR lvl 10 souldestroyer is mainly a double cast of the soul destroyer possibly or when you melee with this weap, there is a chance of giving double damage from lex aeterna or a soul destroyer out from this weap. 3. Gunslinger Heavy Shotgun +20 dex +15vit +15agi +10luk +40% damage with Full Buster +50% damage with Dust +15% damage with Spread Attack +30% max HP 20% chance to flip coin when being attacked Justification: Im not really sure about this weapon since i havent used this type of gunslinger but mainly this is a concept for a shotgun type gunslinger. Anything goes here really. I want someone to help me with this hehe. 4. Ninja Giant Glaive Shuriken +20str +20dex +10vit +50% Throw Huuma Shuriken damage +100% Throw Kunai damage +5% chance to cast flip tatami when being hit +10% HP Justification: Sorry this was provided by a FRO player named Kendrick. Addition of % of HP bonus by nines. 5. Taekwon Tai Chi Fan +25str +20agi +20vit 30% more chance on Prepare Whirlwind Kick +60% damage with Whirlwind Kick +100% damage with Flying Side Kick +5 aspd -10% Vit Def Justification: Why a fan?! well taekwons in RO use books, taekwons in real world use nothing but some use weapons i.e. Fans for commercialization. I picked fan coz its unusual. Stats are based for the taekwon classes, and focused more on Whirlwind kick damage and flying side kick damage. I need help with this! My next suggestion is about an event. First of all ill start off with removing the hidden NPC in the middle of fcity and place it inside another place which is accessible via one NPC so that the ease is there. Event Suggestion: 1. Weekly PVP per class, so that we could determine who is the best for each class during that week or so. :) seems fun. and the prize will be in even tokens or so. Misc. Suggestion: 1. Please fix elite weapon description, and also give them sprites please qq. 2. Please differ some of the icons of some fparts because of people scamming :/ 3. GVH recolor, in my opinion, goldness same color as SGW. :)) 4. ROPs on champs (why does it error much?) 5. Fluffy Wing resprite. 6. Valkyrie Weap description fix too! :) 7. Change Holiday Map Warper NPC to another NPC(its a snowman still :() 8. Royal Angel Wings reflect from 20% to 25% :) (honestly speakin, i think avians are better regarding its property basis) okay ill just edit this coz im sleepy bbye!
TensaZangetsu Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 1. more bitching and moaning about the dispell. 2. agree, except for that 20% hp gain when attacking. 3. disagree, only because people will still use stalker oriental bow cause it invest so much stats in other, unless oriental gets a major major boost.. so i dunno about this. 4. only agree on changing the str to hp but not int since there damage is one of the fastest DPS damage in game. 5. Who wouldn't wanna see double strafe and AV at the same time? Oh you forgot tarot too...shittt, OP lol... 6. lol..not gonna happen. 7. disagree 8. this could be fun. This could pull more people into playing this class so I agree, but i don't know if this will happen lol.
Xtopher Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 Valkyrie Weapon Suggestion(changes) 1. Lord Knight Black Halberd 100% Spiral Pierce Damage -10% After-cast delay Str+20 Dex+15 Vit+10 5% chance to cast dispell when attacking 150 flat SP bonus. Justification: On what I've heard, Spiral Pierce damage is now 100%, if that isnt the right percentage of spiral pierce damage, then what i meant of the damage of spiral pierce here is the damage % of the current spiral pierce on the weap. Demi-human damage was removed, and was changed with a chance to cast dispell when attacking which is quite useful when facing multiple classes. 150 SP bonus because LK's need the SP to spam. Stat changed from Str+15 Dex+20 Vit+10 to Str+20 Dex+15 Vit+10 for suitable little damage increase. I disagree. The spear is fine the way it is. I've used LK for a while now and it's perfectly fine. If you want more str try str food/items or slap on a scarf instead of a SGW/RAW/Ruck. If you want more sp, again, use stat food or I highly suggest using hollowring cards. With two hollows my LK's sp goes from 3xx to 900-1k. You can use different cloak card combinations such as Hollow/hollow, Hollow/Skoll, Hollow,Raydric. The LK is gifted with enough hp to still tank while using a hollow in your cloak. Dispel is completely unnecessary and would make LK vs Champ even more imbalanced. If you want dispel sacrifice one of your weapon card slots for Valk R, your damage will still be good and you'll be dispelling a good bit. The after cast delay is also not a good idea as the best way to combat a LK (in my opinion) is to force different head gear card combinations. Using puppetring and assassin cross card to cloak you can force him to switch around headgears (maya p, fsoldier, kiels) in some way he has to sacrifice something... this gives you a way to build a strategic advantage in a 1v1 duel. Giving him a cast delay reduction from the weapon would kill some strategic play against the class. I don't have time to reply to the rest of your suggestions but this one stuck out to me and I have played LK a good bit. I might reply to the others later.
kax Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 I really like the Gunslinger Weapon ;) +1 for it as it may attract more people to play this class. (However, i believe it should be 1-handed)
nines Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Why not just add onto my valkyrie weapons topic. Already suggested for the dex sword and the prof staff also. And theres also a topic for if your going to be creating new ideas for new valkyrie weapons. And tensa....profs have fast dps if the person doesn't have gtb on. if they do have gtb the stave damage still sucks. just convert the 35 str to stave damage. profs don't need any more hp also. Edited March 16, 2011 by nines
TensaZangetsu Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 @nines, if you say so nines i don't play prof much.
Guest lolensue Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 @tensa - people have suggested about dispell already? i didnt kno of that, it just popped out in my mind and think its good for LKs. For stalker oriental i majorly focused it primarily on strength basis. And removing tarot from the weapon would be okay. Arrow Vulcan and double strafe at the same time is fine, calculated both damage its good. It only hab da chance to AV(10%). and tarot chance is just 5% not 30% like back then. And why does the white rabbit not gonna happen for stalkers? i mean that idea came out from old players in FRO. Assassin Dagger is mainly for soul destroyer, can u give me a reason why u disagree with such? Thats typcially a boost to soul destroyer types. @xtopher - can u tell me the current stats on LKhalb? @kax - thanks man xD @nines - wheres that topic nines? i didnt kno, i didnt hab time last night, i just copied and pasted
nines Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 http://forum.forsaken-ro.net//index.php?showtopic=19383 Try to copy the format I use also for suggested changes. apparently i put the prof one in a different topic just related to prof staff.
TensaZangetsu Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) A majority of the class use converters, bos and curse bottles and this will be extremely annoying to get dispel every couple seconds, you do the math man its not rocket science. I didn't say your idea for the Oriental Sword was a bad idea, i said if they're going to boost the sword then it has to be a major boost since the stats you mention won't match Oriental Soaring bird, since dex build conserve so much stats. I didn't read the Clown suggestion correctly since it was so early in the morning. WTF? 20% chance to cast level 10 AV while attacking? You already have 5% chance to cast tarot when being attack, also that 5% seem's like 40% cause if you've ever been attack by someone with a soaring bird that card constantly comes out like flying fireworks. Clowns will take no effort in playing, and that's not a good thing. I don't care who the idea came from, ain't gonna happen since they are 2 custom weapons made for them already and obviously genesis isn't going to make another one. Like i said before this isn't necessary people will only use this for FUN and would you pick 15K-32K melee damage or deadly burst attack from sonic blow or some shitty 20k soul breaker damage, and it takes up tooo much stats because I've tried it before and my main is SinX KID!. YOU DO THE MATH KIDDDDDDDDDDD.. Edited March 16, 2011 by TensaZangetsu
Guest lolensue Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 lol how do i do that? ill just post there? or somewhat idk mang what to do ._.
Xtopher Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 @xtopher - can u tell me the current stats on LKhalb? I tested the following ingame as of March 17th 2011 at 1:30AM 15 str 20 dex 10 vit 4.6725% more hp (Actually less because the 10 vit, so probably 3.7-4%) 100% spiral damage (This is what the administration posted, I personally haven't tested it but the damage I do is fine.) Demi Human damage +17% (This is in the description but I don't know if its properly implemented ingame
nines Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 The only demi human damage bonus that works on any valk weapon is for champions. because they don't use 2x fbh. everyone who uses 2x fbh doesn't get bonus off that. I suggested for it to be changed to medium sized monster dmg bonus but no one cares.
Xtopher Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 The only demi human damage bonus that works on any valk weapon is for champions. because they don't use 2x fbh. everyone who uses 2x fbh doesn't get bonus off that. I suggested for it to be changed to medium sized monster dmg bonus but no one cares. They "work", they just don't stack with 2x FBH... which they shouldn't. They open up more opportunities for card/item combinations other than the stereotypical 2x FBH.
Guest lolensue Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) i thought demi human damage increatment on those weapons are mainly to add more damage %. It really doesnt stack efficiently with 2FBH. i also agree on nines to make it a size modifier damage increase. EDIT: i added ninja weap which was an idea of kendrick and me >:) and taekwon fantasy weapon suggestion Edited March 17, 2011 by lolensue
nines Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 Hmm the ninja weapon is nice. Could use a hp bonus also though. Maybe 10%? Most of the ideas are nice except for the clown on.
GoatSpice Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 OMG! i want this! supergasm! I really like ur ideas man, especially gunslinger, ninja, stalker rabbit and taekwon. GMs should see this. I just couldnt agree with the clownSB, clownSB was made to get another gameplay for clowns/gypsy. +1 from me with some of those suggestions. not just the clownSB or maybe LKH
Guest lolensue Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 Okay adding that up nines. lol thanks goat, well most disagree now with LKH.
Veracity Posted May 7, 2011 Report Posted May 7, 2011 We are not going to make any more edits to the valkyrie weapons unless serious balance issues are brought to our attention or if there are bugs that need to be fixed, so all of the valkyrie weapon changes are Rejected. I will accept this however so we can take your suggestions for new weapons into consideration when adding them, and also for the misc. suggestions you mentioned. - Accepted -
