Clown Soaring Bird

[Anarii]

All the people who complain about the bow should remember that the bow has far more drawbacks then u mention.

1. While wearing a bow u cant use great deal of skills which limits strategy alot. No other class did recieve such "bonus" with new weaps

2. If opponent wears GTB and redux he has nothing much to worry. Most of people just ctrl-click. Can't you handle this?

3. Bow doesnt have Jupitel which means Pneuma saves from the bow despite the fact coma occures.

4. About "side" tarot effects: FCP is always a must in pvp. Everyone can WS or strip you. Its not just tarot.

5. 30% autocast is about what you get when you spam tarot manually with enough kiels.

u can change weps sir, in a split second and blast us with that av. you speak as though you're bound to this bow, but ahah quite the contrary. you even have the upper hand on melee classes on switching, seeing as you guys don't need to slap on a converter after every switch.

sorry for the unsightly read, too lazy to do correct grammar LOL

Edited November 30, 2010 by Anarii

[HealHard]

I hadn't played for a long time since the bow was released and more people do have it now, so I can realize it's OP-ness and OP-potential.

I rescind my first reply and now agree with reducing the auto-taroting chance.

In my opinion, this effect shouldn't even be added to the bow. Coming for a clown user myself who can definitely donate for a bow and get one myself, the tarot skill was already powerful enough on a high rate server in which kiel cards are easily accessible. Now it's added to a continuous attack at a 195 ASPD? That's insane - you choose to either die from a coma and then subsequential arrow that will follow in a split second, or you choose to die from switching to GTB and dying from a constant flurry of 8-10k hits or a string of AV's without usakoring to defend yourself.

I think when people suggested to have another attack other than AV, they meant a bow attack such as Double Strafe to get a boost on clown - much like the stalker boost. Double Strafe, unlike AV, can be spammed quickly which increases the damage potential of clowns.

Having tarot - their already coveted skill in terms of WOE and GVG - be auto casted is like giving them an automatic win in duels and GVG/WOE settings. It needs to be nerfed to 5%, 3% or even 1%. Given the high aspd on this server, you'll still see tarot being cast, but at least you'll have a chance to kill the clown before you get coma'd.

I would go even so far as to make this bow be 2-handed instead of 1-handed. It's ridiculous how much of an upper hand a clown gets from this.

8-10k spam is survivable. And Clown/gypsy forces you to go GTB even if they have no bow. so thats not OP.

And no, people did not want to boost DS. DS is too easy to survive unlike AV. So AV > DS anyway. I suppose ppl wanted to nerf AV cus its very powerful with tarot. And we did get this. DS < AV and coma is a bit stronger with the bow.

And again. 25% damage reduction on WOE means you can default GTB. also, if you have smth like friggs/stalker bow/sacreds its even more easy. Just default GTB and switch to usako if you sence asuras near. and then switch back. If you are breaking and dual wield - it means that you are ready to risk to get the castle. asura gonna kill you as well.

And about 2h... Then make all the new bows 2h and useless once again.

And yeah, Supream. I forgot to say that but you did get me. Leaving the tarot on attack only will be ok.

[Xtopher]

No Clown or Gypsy forces me to GTB without the Bow. I can hit my ygg button faster than they can pop an attack off of a coma card. Occasionally if their lucky they will get a coma card the a damage card immediately after which will leave you dead but this is rare.

The Bow, however, does force everyone to GTB because it is impossible to hit your ygg before the next arrow lands on you at 195 attack speed immediately after a coma card.

8-10K vulcan may be survivable for some, but in the hands a of a skilled clown/gypsy 8-10k per hit is gold and they'll leave you in the dust.

I acknowledge people did donate for these weapons and shouldn't be completely ripped off, but this bow is just too much.

The stalker bow never auto-killed people and it was nerfed.

The LKH DID auto kill people (at a MUCH lower chance than the Clown bow) and it was nerfed.

I don't see how it would be fair to leave it as it is.

[Kittie]

I don't automatically go GTB against a Clown or Gypsy - a lot of players are too slow in reaction time to notice they landed a coma card when manually taroting so I can ygg right away like Xtopher mentioned.

I don't know what kind of bad clowns you're dueling against, but 8k-10k AVs spammed QUICKLY in succession will kill you.

Why would you make all the bows two-handed again if the clown bow is made two-handed? They all have different effects in which the Clown bow carries this great advantage that needs drawbacks to be made. It's a trade off - you want a quick tarot-related kill? Then you need to lower your own defenses.

[HealHard]

No advantage like 30% autotarot can replace 50% redux from shield and no chance to counter magic with GTB.

Considering stalker SB: it doesn't kill. but it made you almost invulnerable. And with Frigg it would be 100% right? (25%(frigg)+30%(usako)+20%(bow)+10%(sacreds) +15%(santap. hat)) thats why its nerfed.

About LKH: it is nerfed and good for nothing now. Noone plays LK anymore. Is that good? I dont think so. Ppl were just to lazy (dumb?) to use redux+noxious+angeling+Puppetring+gtb+Elemental protect potion. Anti spiral -.-

i did use that and had no goddamn problems with coma or OP Spiral damage.

And yes. I duel Clowns/gypsies who use bow with sinx (i have crit sword) and champ(dorcus). and i have no problems, really. bow is VERY predictable. I see no reasons to nerf it anyway.

[Xtopher]

I like the idea of making the clown bow two handed. It would actually require some strategy to use then.

Arrow repel, ctrl+click then when they get close use guitar/harp + shield and vulcan/tarot then stun/stone/freeze/JT/Run rinse and repeat.

The LKH was OP. One big indicator is that there were so many LKs running around who REALLY didn't know how to use the class efficiently and relied on the weapon to do all the work for them (massive damage + coma chance).

Now we have the same scenario with Clowns. Many unskilled Clowns are running around ctrl+clicking and killing some of the most skill players.

The LKH wasn't made useless, the LKs that are still running around are the ones that know how to use the class. The nerf weeded out all the people who really do not want to devote time to learning the class.

The player should make the weapon great.

The weapon should not make the player great.

[Angels&Demons]

Giving the bow a chance still of autocasting while the user is attacking wouldn't really make anything better. Let's face it, people who don't really know how to use clowns/gypsies would still go ctrl+click on someone. And with 195 attack speed, even 1% chance is good enough a gamble to just ctrl+click. Remember how many people died from coma off an LK halberd? Same scenario will happen here, and worse is they don't have to spam. Just ctrl+click unlike spamming spiral pierce.

Again, my suggestion would be 5% of auto casting tarot WHEN being attacked, +10% HP, and increase bow type damage by 20%. (this way those people who ctrl+click won't complain THAT MUCH)

[supream]

i cant really default on gtb cause ill be ygging for sp not for hp.

[HealHard]

It seems to me that i am arguing with stalker players here, right? then its ok that you want to be OP when even tarot wont be able to kill you (and dispell your skill also).

And what about really pro LKs now? i can go gears that i mentioned before and dont need gtb even. LK is completely useless now if you know how to counter. Before nerf they could do some damage at least.

You guys are just mad when someone kills you with bow. You say it shows no skill. Ok. Does stalker show any real skill? or Sinx? or LK? maybe asura priest does? Most players use 1-2 skills and autoattack for their class as primary (i dont mention buffs of any kind).

Recent posts show that players are just pissed cus "noobs" kill them with bow easily. I dont like that too, but i just GTB and show my own skill dueling The Bow, ygging the best way i can and freezing/stoning/full damaging/Wsing/stripping the enemy. Or you can avoid the bow user if you cant oppose him. Moreover, good players dont abuse the bow powers. If some player does, just gang him. Its easy to see when person is skilled and just using bow to force you gtb to av and who depends on coma only. if he forces GTB then be ready to ygg in like 0.5 seconds after then switch to full danage as there is pause between 2 series of AV spams. if you cant kill during that period, switch to usako. bad player will think like 10 seconds before tries to tarot you once again. and if he was just Autotatoting get autopneuma accessory for instance.

Dont blame the bow. Maybe just ur strategy imperfect?

Summing up all my thoughts. Nerf it to attack only autocast.

[xBiscuit]

It seems to me that i am arguing with stalker players here, right? then its ok that you want to be OP when even tarot wont be able to kill you (and dispell your skill also).

And what about really pro LKs now? i can go gears that i mentioned before and dont need gtb even. LK is completely useless now if you know how to counter. Before nerf they could do some damage at least.

You guys are just mad when someone kills you with bow. You say it shows no skill. Ok. Does stalker show any real skill? or Sinx? or LK? maybe asura priest does? Most players use 1-2 skills and autoattack for their class as primary (i dont mention buffs of any kind).

Recent posts show that players are just pissed cus "noobs" kill them with bow easily. I dont like that too, but i just GTB and show my own skill dueling The Bow, ygging the best way i can and freezing/stoning/full damaging/Wsing/stripping the enemy. Or you can avoid the bow user if you cant oppose him. Moreover, good players dont abuse the bow powers. If some player does, just gang him. Its easy to see when person is skilled and just using bow to force you gtb to av and who depends on coma only. if he forces GTB then be ready to ygg in like 0.5 seconds after then switch to full danage as there is pause between 2 series of AV spams. if you cant kill during that period, switch to usako. bad player will think like 10 seconds before tries to tarot you once again. and if he was just Autotatoting get autopneuma accessory for instance.

Dont blame the bow. Maybe just ur strategy imperfect?

Summing up all my thoughts. Nerf it to attack only autocast.

I never knew you could ygg in 0.5 seconds.

Teach me master, please.

[Xtopher]

I'm the only one posting here that mains Stalker. Hell, I'm one of the few that actually uses it as my main class server-wide.

Supream is the LK expert, and before you go spouting off about how they're "useless" I would like to see you fight some of our better LKs such as him.

I don't see how what classes we main is relevant to the topic at hand. Regardless of what class I use the bow is too strong.

In fact a good bit of the people I've talked to ingame AND people posting here are Clown users. Kittie, for example, is great with Clown and knows the class very well, yet she is advocating a nerf on the bow after seeing it used ingame.

"Noobs" with the bow are annoying, but actual skilled players with the bow are damn near impossible to kill one on one. And no weapon should make it a REQUIREMENT for you to be GANGED in order to be killed.

We shouldn't rely on "good players" to not abuse the power of the bow, it shouldn't be abusable to begin with.

I don't have a problem with the skill Tarot, I have a problem with a bow that casts it at a rate that makes pvp one sided.

[HealHard]

Ok it seems that i should go more in-depth.

So, lets start with the abusive build : sacreds + santap hat. It means that clown has 2 slots left for Mayap and Fsold (and freezable also, try garm card in armor). This means that player must switch headgears in order to spam AVs. You just GTB while bow strikes and then Usako when different HG appears. If clown begins to DS and autotarot wont work when you hit clown that means he just gets some damage boost(cus you wear gtb or you can even switch usako while clown spams?). Thats what people wanted, right?

Less defensive(and not so abusive) build: Santap OR sacreds on. Try to use stone curse armor. If that fails, clown has to switch headgears to spam AVs. Same situation with Kobold hat. Switch as fast as clown does to win. Use GTB until clown is stoned or switches HGs. If he SCs then do ur best burst damage and usako right after. If he switches, you switch to usako.

Offensive build: 3kiels + fsold in headgears. No extra redux means vulnerability, but it allows fast switch to guitar. When you are getting hit with bow cloak/hide and uncloak right away. This means that ctrl-attack stops. and you have some extra time to hit. At this point autotarot when bow user is hit MUST be removed. When clown fails to reclick on you he shouldnt be able to randomly kill you with frigg reflect+comatarot. If the clown switches to guitars, use normal tactics vs him.

If the clown doesnt have thana defaulting cloak with noxiouses is a good idea. Start with skolls. if u see that he tries to thana you, keep them on. Otherwise put noxiouses.

Yes. You must learn to switch fast and probably use battlemode to do so. And yes, you must be attentive and know the game well to understand what to wear during battle. And yes, you should have proper gears. If you dont have gears, do not complain. Imagine if you have no skolls and you get thanaraped. It doesnt mean that thana must be nerfed, right?

Any objections? just leave autotarot on attack only.

[HerLove]

Clowns can put on reductions and the scarf with a fsoldier (all of which is common) and not have to worry about all types of damage.They then just auto attack someone who then has to wear gtb+fcp in order to have any chance at all against just that clown.How is that not registering as unbalanced? They can tank everyone with one set of gear and kill everyone with that one set while people have to get various other buffs just to defend themselves against 1 of the many ro classes.

[Xtopher]

^ Exactly. The bow simply gives Clowns and Gypsys unnecessary advantages. The class wasn't underpowered before the weapons and from I understand the weapons were meant to integrate player suggestions for class balance into funding the server. Clowns don't need a weapon like this and giving it to them creates further imbalance which defeats the purpose of the weapons.

I dont mean to critique the server or the creator of the bow negatively, I just strongly disagree with the attributes chosen for it. I think a guitar/harp would have been much more fair but it's too late for that. So I believe the bow should give 10% hp boost, 20% more damage with bows, and like a 5-10% chance of casting tarot when attacking only. Or as kittie suggested: making this bow two handed would solve the problem while keeping the tarot chance.

Edited December 4, 2010 by Xtopher

[HealHard]

Clowns can put on reductions and the scarf with a fsoldier (all of which is common) and not have to worry about all types of damage.They then just auto attack someone who then has to wear gtb+fcp in order to have any chance at all against just that clown.How is that not registering as unbalanced? They can tank everyone with one set of gear and kill everyone with that one set while people have to get various other buffs just to defend themselves against 1 of the many ro classes.

You say reductions. What are those? The shield and Probably the santa hat. 15% extra reductions more then just a shield. And almost the same thing as sacreds, so i dont get why you think that clowns have so nice reductions and dont have to worry about incoming damage.

Once again about FCP and GTB: you always need FCP and GTB costs like 15 tokens. I see no obstacles to use those.

I doubt that you can tank everyone with one set of gear. Even stalkers can hardly do that.

Once again, if you wear GTB and if you are FCPed you just need to press Ygg button in time to last as long as you need to.

And your remark about buffs is hilarious: one of the tarot cards removes all the buffs from the target. I bet you knew that :smile: . So non selfbuffs are kinda useless vs clown as you cant get em ASAP after dispell.

Finally, if you think that its too much to have FCP and GTB at once vs Clown to be defended, then think of Champ. You need to wear 2xRay + sacreds/santahat + GR/tao + usakoshield to survive full asura and avoid using Devs (which is almost equal to death vs pro champ that starts to TSS you right away with converter). But noone complains about that, right?

I think a guitar/harp would have been much more fair but it's too late for that. So I believe the bow should give 10% hp boost, 20% more damage with bows, and like a 5-10% chance of casting tarot when attacking only.

Indeed, its too late. So if clowns get a bow it should not be useless. And the one you suggest is worse then a common elite guitar, cus it has no jupitel and burst 4xAV damage with guitar beats 20% dmg boost with bows. Moreover, you cant use songs with the bow (like slowgrace/frost joker etc..), as i already mentioned before. 10% hp boost doesnt make any sense, as original HP of clown is too low. 5-10% chance of tarot on attack means that the bow tarot spam is far worse then manual one.

I will keep my opinion as i see no actual arguments versus it. It seems that you just ignore some facts.

[Kittie]

5-10% chance of tarot on attack means that the bow tarot spam is far worse then manual one.

That's the whole point of making this modification - to decrease the bow auto tarot spam.

[emir]

Just put some redux and frigg shield with gtb inside it.. that bow going to be useless if you use it.... like.. redux hat 15% redux sgw/fluffy 10%redux and frigg shield 35 % and combat knife 10 %ofc =60 % reduce dmg .. It's not bad you see?Jeez....and i disagree..!!!!with any changes on donation weapon!

[Xtopher]

I watched a guy fighting a clown (or attempting to) die 5x from coma reflected from his bow+friggs. I'm thinking about Frapsing the next time I see this sort of then so that I can share it here. The deaths took less than a few seconds before he was dropped. The clown wasn't even fighting back, just standing and letting the guy die. Clowns do not deserve or even need this kind of buff, I'm sorry for those of you who have the bow or who donated for it but even good clown users that I know and who have the bow know that its overpowered (Takashi, Eban, Juan, Dragon) along with plenty of other people who mained clown/gypsy before the bow was ever implemented who know that it's not fair.

If the people who know the class the best know that the bow is over powered then isn't that significant enough to legitimize a nerf? I'm not asking for it to be removed. I'm asking for it to be changed.

@Emir: You're suggesting someone go full reductions with combat knife and a GTB with friggs. One, not many people have friggs. Two, how are they supposed to kill a full reduction clown when using a freakin' combat knife? Some classes can't even use that weapon. Others (sniper) will never kill you with it.

@healhard: I believe you regarded losing JT as a disadvantage? With the bow you have repel arrow and arrow shower am I right?

[HealHard]

I watched a guy fighting a clown (or attempting to) die 5x from coma reflected from his bow+friggs. I'm thinking about Frapsing the next time I see this sort of then so that I can share it here. The deaths took less than a few seconds before he was dropped. The clown wasn't even fighting back, just standing and letting the guy die.

If you see someone to die 5 times in a row from the same reason, he is not a good player. But as i already mentioned MANY times before, i suggest to leave autotarot on attack ONLY, so the situation discribed should not happen.

By the way its quite annoying that you ignore the things i try to tell you, xtopher, and just spam messages with no arguments. In my previous posts i told about such situations with autotarot on hit. Please, read carefully.

(Takashi, Eban, Juan, Dragon)

And you say that people you have listed are versus the bow. I see no posts from them. And yes, their respective opinion without posts here means that they are neutral on topic. Moreover, i doubt that you even had the right to say that with reference to them. Edited December 6, 2010 by HealHard

[Xtopher]

You say reductions. What are those? The shield and Probably the santa hat. 15% extra reductions more then just a shield. And almost the same thing as sacreds, so i dont get why you think that clowns have so nice reductions and dont have to worry about incoming damage.

Once again about FCP and GTB: you always need FCP and GTB costs like 15 tokens. I see no obstacles to use those.

I doubt that you can tank everyone with one set of gear. Even stalkers can hardly do that.

Once again, if you wear GTB and if you are FCPed you just need to press Ygg button in time to last as long as you need to.

And your remark about buffs is hilarious: one of the tarot cards removes all the buffs from the target. I bet you knew that :smile: . So non selfbuffs are kinda useless vs clown as you cant get em ASAP after dispell.

Finally, if you think that its too much to have FCP and GTB at once vs Clown to be defended, then think of Champ. You need to wear 2xRay + sacreds/santahat + GR/tao + usakoshield to survive full asura and avoid using Devs (which is almost equal to death vs pro champ that starts to TSS you right away with converter). But noone complains about that, right?

Indeed, its too late. So if clowns get a bow it should not be useless. And the one you suggest is worse then a common elite guitar, cus it has no jupitel and burst 4xAV damage with guitar beats 20% dmg boost with bows. Moreover, you cant use songs with the bow (like slowgrace/frost joker etc..), as i already mentioned before. 10% hp boost doesnt make any sense, as original HP of clown is too low. 5-10% chance of tarot on attack means that the bow tarot spam is far worse then manual one.

1: GTB card costs 15 tokens, sure. Less we forget you can not simply throw a GTB in a buckler and expect that to be too helpful. You'll need a F.Shield/Elite Shield/Friggs. So add a couple more tokens to that approximation. Most pvpers aren't going to be using the elite set so thats at least the cost of a F.Shield.

2: Clown is not a Mage. They should not be able to force GTB on you like they do at the moment. As I and Supream have discussed; that was not an issue before the bow. One could simply ygg after a manually casted coma card and survive. There is no surviving a coma card with this bow without GTB, and some classes can not do adequate enough damage output to kill a reduction clown while using GTB.

3: You do not need to wear those reductions vs a champ. My characters get a long just fine vs asura with just rays/gr. You don't need to stack devs nor Sacred Wings or Santa Poring or Deviling hat to survive. You can leave on gear that keeps you functional enough to do proper damage out put while tanking their damage. More over, most champions if not all do not wear reduction equipment. If they do their asura damage and tss speed are severely cut and their potential for killing you is decreased dramatically, unlike a clown who can slap on all kinds of reductions and still Double Strafe (Requires no Kiels) or just wait for auto coma to kill you, auto stone to stone you, auto dispell to dispell you, auto break to break your items, auto paralyze to paralyze you, auto decrease attack to decrease your attack, auto sp drain to kill your sp.

Now, to address your most recent post.

This is my suggestion thread. I'm not complaining about Clowns being immortal or something. There are strategies to kill them. My claim is that the bow is over powered, which even you have admitted to. I also am stating that the classes Clown/Gypsy do not even need the bow to begin with. As I've mentioned before: The class was fine before the update. The weapons were meant to give other more underpowered classes big boosts and add small boosts to the classes that are already powerful. Obviously Clown didn't need a boost like this, what's the point of helping out the other classes if your just going to keep giving the powerful classes such advantages as well?

Before you regard my posts as "spam" please read the forum Guidelines here: http://forum.forsaken-ro.net/index.php?showtopic=16 before making such accusations.

As for the four People in your parentheses above (Takashi, Eban, Juan, and Dragon)

Eban = HerLove he posted 21 November 2010 - 09:37 PM

Dragon = DiEnd he posted 23 November 2010 - 08:55 PM

I'll ask Takashi and Juan to provide input.

Lastly, not all members read our forums. Hell, some of them don't even know they exist or have ever been here much less keep track of topics. It's ignorant to think that just because someone doesn't post here that they're not effected or have no opinion on the bow or as you put it "neutral".

Edited December 6, 2010 by Xtopher

[Weezing]

Well this bow has 2 things that makes this pretty unfair, first u can go about 85% redux while using this weapon (while not counting skull ring cz a low amount of people has it), second this weapon at all times will force the opponent to go GTB, when after that u can just switch to guitar and av, most classes die from this, beside having redux and doing above 10k per hit on melee (if the opponent wears GTB), while also being able to spam that doesn't needs any kiels, and giving auto-tarots while being hitted yah it is OP, and I'ma say from my personal experience, I was able to tank any player with 55% redux, making myself able to use 3 Kiel F Soldier, making myself unstonable, giving me a good tarot spam on melee, and giving me the ability to just switch to guitar and AV, killing everybody that I dueled with that bow, we already got tarot we surely don't need a sitduck weapon that does all for you, that shows how skill less a clown can be, so yah I'm in favour no nerf this, give it more power to DS, HP, or any other effect and make the tarot chance about 5% or even nullify it, and btw HealHard u can use Frostjoker with bow lol.

Edited December 6, 2010 by Weezing

[Apo]

Seriously tho, the only one fighting back with irrational informations must be a bow owner, put yourself in a 2 v 2 situation, the clown, his bow and any dps class you want that can burst dmg, the clown will click you and use ygg if he's hit and that's all while the dps does all the job and if you dont have gtb on, you get coma'd from someone who barely just clicked you and enjoyed all the fun. What I'm implying here is that, clowns were already just fine before this bow appeared, and who needs AV when you can just reflect and spam DS, after all, they even added 20% dmg to DS and to DH which is a 40% dammage total. This bow has to be either have its casting chances reduced by a great amount, nulify it or make it two handed.

Edited December 6, 2010 by Apo

[DiEnd]

Personally I'd rather the bow give a more of a boost to DS. Two handed would completely turn people away from the bow. (I like the aspect of giving classes more "build" options. Like the int from Dex sword for sinx) You know how many times I've been using DS (Reason I got the bow), and someone comes up hits me 2-3 times. (Misclicks included) Right after they hit me 2-3 times friggs and auto tarot coma card comes up. It's a death sentence.

[Kittie]

I think if the point of the new weapons were to offer new build options to classes that were already very good at PVP, then this bow didn't accomplish that. Clowns can already win duels by using tarot manually. I thought a bow would have more...I don't know...bow-like offerings? I like the idea of DS being boosted for clowns on this bow and taking out the tarot effect completely.

Double strafe can be spammed over and over again; something AV cannot do. AV can only be chained 4-5 times. Or 2-3 in some cases that I've seen, lol.

Tarot can be used manually regardless of what weapon the clown is holding.

Double strafe also has a longer range than AV - which is important for long-range users like Clowns.

HealHard probably has the bow and is arguing to keep the effects, but other bow users have already expressed their own discontent with it. I could easily get the bow myself (I'd have to say I play Clown more than my other classes) but I'm not going to because I feel this bow is just a cheap victory - if it had the appeal of making clowns a DS machine...that might be another situation.

[jorgesilvera]

Giving the bow a chance still of autocasting while the user is attacking wouldn't really make anything better. Let's face it, people who don't really know how to use clowns/gypsies would still go ctrl+click on someone. And with 195 attack speed, even 1% chance is good enough a gamble to just ctrl+click. Remember how many people died from coma off an LK halberd? Same scenario will happen here, and worse is they don't have to spam. Just ctrl+click unlike spamming spiral pierce.

Again, my suggestion would be 5% of auto casting tarot WHEN being attacked, +10% HP, and increase bow type damage by 20%. (this way those people who ctrl+click won't complain THAT MUCH)

Hitted on the nail

i cant really default on gtb cause ill be ygging for sp not for hp.

Same, but think on other ~200~ k hp classes