Lk Weapon

[supream]

can we take off coma and put a sp boost on it instead? no need for a power weapon like that to have coma on it. just buff edge.

[sessions]

I'm fine with no coma, since they have edge. That and no class needs coma on their main offensive weapon. And I'd agree with a SP boost, but maybe they could get something like a BB bonus instead? Seems like LK's hardly use BB anymore, when it used to be their main offensive skill.

[supream]

thats cause people got spiral happy. i still bb if i can get them to a wall. if not then i use other skills to kill them.

[Phenomenon]

I agree with an SP boost on the LK weapon, their SP is ridiculously low. Removing the coma effect isn't a bad idea either, since the suggestion to buff edge for knight classes was accepted anyways. An addition to bowling bash seems nice.. especially since pneuma/defender make Spiral Pierce useless anyways.

[jorgesilvera]

I will be honest, Since the people are going to be high reduct damage lately coma is a way to counter it.

I Desagree.

[supream]

the only people with the reduce problem are stalkers. thats about it. other classes take 6k or more from spiral, or 16k or more per hit from bb.

[Manifest]

This is actually a very good idea. Coma is too much for a weapon that enables you to Spiral Pierce with 3x your damage.

[nines]

I agree on everything because I am a blind voter.......................

>> but the coma stuff is annoying each hit from spiral has a chance to activate it =.= kinda ridiculous. if it was like a .10% chance I wouldn't mind for it to be uber rare to get the coma.

The sp increase, I actually disagree the dps output from a lk is major the hp a lk has is major the ammount of yggs they can carry is major.

The only solace I can find in vsing one is, my damage output makes them ygg, there sp consumption makes them ygg. Only way to kill a lord knight really is to get voke str buff or for them to run out of yggs.

Let it stay :O

[Guest xonchu]

everything is fine with the LK weapon imo... the reducts of enemies are uberlshly damn.. and u might need to coma them.

[Adamxd]

I agree coma effect with such a powerful damage is too much in my opinion. Add them like 30% sp instead of coma.

[supream]

i agree with adam. and buff edge for certain classes. also, nines, people did donate for the weapon because for everything they saw. if you take something away and dont add something else, they would feel as if they were ripped off and start qqin. I dont think you want that.

Edited September 16, 2010 by supream

[Xtopher]

I agree with your suggestion Supream.

As an alternative to a SP boost you could give it a pharaoh effect (-30% SP usage).

[supream]

i think the sp boost would be better. since they dont have alot of sp now the reduce from sp taken wont help alot.

[Veracity]

If a majority of people agree, we can change it. Coma was added to the weapon because players had suggested it before, and at the time the weapons were being developed, we hadn't decided to alter the effects of edge. Since things have changed though, we're open to altering it. There's three things we could do here...

1) Leave it as it is

2) Adjust it down to .01% chance

3) Remove it all together

Please pick one and give reasons for your choice.

If you'd like to suggest/agree with an alternative to the coma (eg. increasing the SP), please include that in your post as well.

It would be very helpful for us if people could do this, thanks! (:

Edited September 16, 2010 by Veracity

[supream]

by choosing one of these, can also add the sp boost into the weapon? that is if the coma gets removed all together.

[Xtopher]

3) Remove it all together

The damage output of spiral is by far enough of a boost to make the class efficient in pvp situations. Adding a coma chance in addition to this makes the weapon a little ridiculous in my opinion. A chance of coma with each spiral means that the LK is capable of keeping you on usakoring while spamming his skill (if you use gtb to counter coma you will most likely die).

I would argue that the LK coma is even MORE effective than that of the Clown/Gypsy class. The chance of coma'ing is higher with Tarot, but if a Clown hits you with a coma card you can still heal yourself with yggs if you're fast enough. If a LK is spiral spamming you and coma happens you will not have enough time to ygg because spiral hits multiple times, it's an instant death. Even if he's not spiraling and just attacking you then you are still almost 100% likely to die on the hit following his successful coma chance if you're not using a GTB... it is damn near impossible to ygg in-between individual hits at 195 attack speed.

As for a SP boost: I'm very apathetic here. I understand the class wanting something in return if you take something away though.

[Veracity]

by choosing one of these, can also add the sp boost into the weapon? that is if the coma gets removed all together.

Yes, sorry I wasn't clear about that. I'll edit the original post. (:

[supream]

as for me, i say remove it and add a sp boost of 30%. since we got the extra attack and spiral boost theres no need to force anyone into gtb. since if they do spiral would go to 10k+ except if they were a stalker. buffing edge would be more efficient then having a damage weapon have coma on it.

[Adamxd]

as for me, i say remove it and add a sp boost of 30%. since we got the extra attack and spiral boost theres no need to force anyone into gtb. since if they do spiral would go to 10k+ except if they were a stalker. buffing edge would be more efficient then having a damage weapon have coma on it.

I'm cool with this.

[jorgesilvera]

What abaut 0.02%? Would not be higer that 0.10% nor lower than 0.01%.

[supream]

that would be more of useless. making it that low wont really make it work but it would still give it the chance. a sp boost on the lk weapon, making edge better for certain classes, and taking coma off the lk weapon would be better.

Edited September 17, 2010 by supream

[jorgesilvera]

When ever a player see the animation of a normal sword automatly put Golden Thief Bug on because think that is edge. This with High Reduct make attemst to kill lower. Use the coma on it blance the Coma lock or reduct on the enemy.

Edited September 17, 2010 by jorgesilvera

[supream]

yea, when people see your trying to coma they put edge on, but just switch to your power weapon quickly. besides i want edge to be buffed to liek .2% or something cause it is so obvious to see. the only people that reduces are a big problem are stalkers. thats for a different topic.

[Cirrus]

Remove the coma, put a +100-150 SP flat bonus. LK's don't have too much base SP for a % to work nicely, and even a +100 would be helpful, while maintaining that they still do need to berry after a few more times of using their offensive skills.

[Superman^*]

I vote for nerfin coma and add 30% sp. I think that's fair enough for a change.