Pokie Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 Does anyone happen to know if there is a cap to the stats of Slow Grace? Meaning, is there a cap to how much Agi decreases movement speed? Also, for ASPD, the skill reads that Str affects it, however in iROWiki it states that Dex affects it. Any input? Depending on which one, is there a cap for it as well; to how much ASPD you can lower to the other player? And the rate at which it decreases?
Pokie Posted July 7, 2010 Author Report Posted July 7, 2010 Well, I tried using str, but it didn't do anything. I switched between Str belts and Dex belts. Although the change was very minuscule, Dex belts decreased ASPD vs Str. I tried Dex: 1 +59 then added the Dex belts to it (+80 dex = 1+ 139) and the change in the rate of decreased ASPD was 1. =/ Would it be wise to max Agi for decrease in walking speed? Or does it not affect it at all? Decrease in ASPD can be very helpful though. Depending on the situation. :P Not to mention it annoys players considering they are so depended on max ASPD. :3
Cirrus Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 irowiki is correct, it's DEX that affects ASPD. Also, the article in there states that level 10 Slow Grace reduces ASPD by 30% and Movement Speed by 20%. It is also said that level 10 Dance Lessons reduces ASPD by another 10%. DEX & AGI give additional percentages, 10 of DEX/AGI to reduce 1% more ASPD/Movement Speed, respectively. The charts go up to a number of 120 and that's impossible with base stats alone in iRO, so I think it also factors in bonus DEX & AGI. If you want to see for yourself, here: http://irowiki.org/wiki/Slow_Grace
Pokie Posted July 7, 2010 Author Report Posted July 7, 2010 I already checked that link before I created the thread. That's based off iRO, but I thought that considering that this is a high rate server, and the stats distribution is slightly different, then the rate which it changes is different as well.
Cirrus Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 Slow Grace wasn't edited in the server though. And if it did factor in bonus stats, it wouldn't need to be edited... we have stats up to 300 and items that give up to 40 of the stat. Caps wouldn't be feasible as well, after all, high stats, high rate, all fits. And if the server isn't using STR for calculating movement speed decrease, then it would be okay to assume the same formula works.
Pokie Posted July 7, 2010 Author Report Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) Well, I've come to a conclusion that ASPD on Slow Grace is messed. Edited July 7, 2010 by Pokie
Cirrus Posted July 8, 2010 Report Posted July 8, 2010 Well that proves STR doesn't affect it at all. If... that's how I should read the chart. The thing I'm curious about is how ASPD is reduced, from which number does Slow Grace take away a % from. Clearly it isn't ASPD as a whole, in which case even just 30% is huge. Lol. What class did you test Slow Grace on? What weapon was it using, and what was the DEX, and I guess AGI of the "victim" ?
Cirrus Posted July 8, 2010 Report Posted July 8, 2010 From the way I read the chart, I assumed that she added STR while having 299+191 DEX already. But yeah, clarification would be nice, as well as the other details.
Pokie Posted July 8, 2010 Author Report Posted July 8, 2010 Its what Cirrus says, I added the Str, after the Dex. Dex, is the Dex I kept increasing by increments of 10. Pre-ASPD, ASPD before Slow Grace. Post-ASPD, ASPD after Slow Grace. Str, the amount of Str I started to add after my Dex was max. (Considering IG on the skill description it reads Str affects ASPD, so I thought I might as well give it a try.) Agi, Agi affects the walking speed, I thought maybe its a combination of the two that affects ASPD, but at this point...I got fed up. Lol. (Agi, when Dex is already max and Str is where I last added) As for the class, I tested it on your typical breaker/pvp sinx builds. However, there were two Gunslingers and a Priest, the results were still the same. From my tests the greatest amount Dex reduced ASPD is only 2.5% (Which is the max 5 point reduction) Also, the reduction rate isn't even linear, so I can't really say how Slow Grace reduces ASPD. At the points where ASPD was effect Dex was increased by: 170 (191) then 210 (190) Unless, the rate is going up 40 * 4.25 = 170 , 40 * 5.25 = 210, then the next one is 40 * 6.25 = 250. The next change in ASPD being 250 Dex more, there is no way to reach 630 Dex just for the 3% change in ASPD.
