Sgw &fluffy

[supream]

well guy you remember the full reduces problem? i think they, since people think the walking speed thing isnt noticeable, sgw add +2 or +5 all stats. sound better? also nerfing fluffy will have bad complaints from others. and if you want raw upgraded then there has to be something like it for other people to get without doing the latter.

Edited February 14, 2010 by supream

[Devotion]

You can trade and sell Sacreds. When new and better stuff comes out, the only place the fluffy wings go is in storage.

[Guest icy]

well guy you remember the full reduces problem? i think they, since people think the walking speed thing isnt noticeable, sgw add +2 or +5 all stats. sound better? also nerfing fluffy will have bad complaints from others. and if you want raw upgraded then there has to be something like it for other people to get without doing the latter.

That was Glorious set obtain by donate and that been nerfed

[Adamxd]

You can trade and sell Sacreds. When new and better stuff comes out, the only place the fluffy wings go is in storage.

Go on Please

[Levis]

so why should sacred wings have two affects and royal angel have one?

I think most of you haven't seen another topic, which is about to create an (?) equal vote reward item, such as Fluffy for Royal Angel Wings. So, if we would increase the walkingspeed of Sacred Wings, of course we should increase the walkingspeed of Royal Angel Wings too, unless there is no vote reward item such as Fluffy. As I said, I would increase only the walkingspeed, sounds fair and increase the walkingspeed of Royal Angel Wings too, if we'll have soon a vote item which have the same effect ( 10% Reflect). Have a nice day and think about this.

[Rune]

This matter again?

Not the whole community of FRO finds joy in being confined to a single mode of game for a full week. Compare the pros and cons of both items;

SGW is gotten in a single week and you don't need to give a damn to the server's growth, completely ignoring the 30 seconds it takes to vote each 12 hours. After you obtain it, you can sell it and get profit.

Fluffy is gotten over a month and a half IF voting with british pontuality, taking up to 3 months+ if you vote only once a day. After obtaining it, it is stuck to you, no chance of even sharing it with other accounts you may have.

Even with Fluffy being on par with SGW still isn't enough encouragement to some players to vote.

Think outside the small box and look at the bigger picture, the server promises balance*, hence many ways for players to get to the same place, amplifying options and stimulating price competition. Crippling voting rewards, quest items and donations to make PvP rewards the most powerful items there is, STILL creates those elitists that stand above the rest of the groups everyone oh so hates in most servers(though usualy occupied by donors).

*Balance is not only class balance, but also fair chances for any player to participate and grow.

[Fall2Pieces]

this conversation is going in circles

[Tactless]

i think adding any effect to SGW is unnecessary, what is the problem with SGW and Fluffy wings already? i think its all balanced out, adding an extra speed boost is not needed, and adding reductions and stats shouldn't even be discussed, making reductions on SGW 13 or even 15 is insanely increasing reduct classes reductions, +usa Shield + Devi Hat + Combat Knife makes that 93 or even 95%. in my opinion SGW and Fluffy wings are fine as they are, and before any suggestions are made on RAW perhaps they should be fixed.

[Adamxd]

Reviving topic, it's not closed yet.

[plotus2]

I say no to this. Not fair for the Fluffy wing users.

[Apo]

it's more than fair, what happen't to the pvp ^exclusive items?

[Annie]

Please note: Voting takes longer than laddering. Laddering just costs yggs, which are fkin cheap. >:

[plotus2]

Please note: Voting takes longer than laddering. Laddering just costs yggs, which are fkin cheap. >:

You're right. I agree to disagree to this suggestion. People spent LOTS of time to vote for fluffy, for the sole purpose of getting a wing which is similar in function as SGW, not for less than that. All of a sudden, when fluffy is no longer similar in terms of function as SGW, there's no point voting for it. Time spent would just become time wasted.

[Adamxd]

voting takes 2 minutes. laddering takes a lot of hours.

[zac]

Maybe because they cost 120 vote coupons, they have the same effect as sgw. voteing ranks the server, it does somethign for it. whereas when you PVP you dont do anything for the server. so i personally dont think any items should be boosted ot nerfed. besides fluffy wings are hideous.

and getting 120 vote coupons is time consuming, not as hard as laddering, yet requires some sort of commitment still.

offering the fluffies provies a fair advantage to those who cant pvp due to lack of gear i suppose.

sgws have a variety of colors , and with them comes a level of respect. if i saw sumone wearing sgws id hardly attack them. whereas if someone were wearing fluffies id hardly feel intimidated.

sgws provide rank, not fluffies. so maybe in terms of functionality the wings are the saem but their impact mentally on people are much diffrent.

[Oppa]

voting takes 2 minutes. laddering takes a lot of hours.

well this is kind of one sided isnt it ? i could be like that and say "trading ur Dqp for a SGW takes 20 secs"

the wings are already exclusive... for those complaining that SGWs are not exclusive, ok sure, then lets make it NOT tradeable, just the account who PVP'd for it, can wear it, and after a week of pvp, let the reward be handled after 4 months since vote qpns for a fluffy wing takes around that time :)

[zac]

well this is kind of one sided isnt it ? i could be like that and say "trading ur Dqp for a SGW takes 20 secs"

the wings are already exclusive... for those complaining that SGWs are not exclusive, ok sure, then lets make it NOT tradeable, just the account who PVP'd for it, can wear it, and after a week of pvp, let the reward be handled after 4 months since vote qpns for a fluffy wing takes around that time :)

exactly.

[Adamxd]

Nah voting everyday for 2 minutes is not as troublesome as laddering for few hours NONSTOP

[Terroryst]

In laddering, there's competition. In voting, there's just you and time.

[zac]

when people vote , it aids the server in ranking on game sites. when people pvp it does nothing for the server.

people help server = get nice item

people donate to server = nice donation items

people who pvp in the server and win the ladder = nice item

the first two are more deserving if you ask me.

so voting for 120 coupons and getting a wing as good as sacred wing, is fine with me.

and the last thing im doing is debating which is harder. AS i said before voting isnt as nearly as hard.

but its just as worthy of such a reward as laddering.

Edited May 9, 2010 by zac

[Adamxd]

+10% walk speed?

[Elimination]

In laddering, there's competition. In voting, there's just you and time.

Who said time isn't a competition xD and I agree to +10% walking speed on sgw.and just leave fluffy wings as they are

[Fyasko]

when people vote , it aids the server in ranking on game sites. when people pvp it does nothing for the server.

people help server = get nice item

people donate to server = nice donation items

people who pvp in the server and win the ladder = nice item

the first two are more deserving if you ask me.

so voting for 120 coupons and getting a wing as good as sacred wing, is fine with me.

and the last thing im doing is debating which is harder. AS i said before voting isnt as nearly as hard.

but its just as worthy of such a reward as laddering.

People who pvp in the server and win the ladder = people willing to dedicate their time to this server. You guys are talking like ANYONE can win the ladder.. it's not as easy as you think

[Annie]

DISAGREE.

[kax]

Disagree.