Kittie Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) Wouldn't that require nerfing a lot of classes in order to bring one up? Or is this turning into another anti-tarot thread? Edited July 16, 2010 by Kittie
Damnascus Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Wouldn't that require nerfing a lot of classes in order to bring one up? Or is this turning into another anti-tarot thread? Precisely why then one class shouldn't be powered up via. skills. Instead, have it powered up by a custom card or equipment.
Kittie Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) Maybe that could link into nines' event rewards suggestion. Like a custom card. Edited July 16, 2010 by Kittie
supream Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Posted July 16, 2010 Wouldn't that require nerfing a lot of classes in order to bring one up? Or is this turning into another anti-tarot thread? no its not, i was responding to what biscuit said and telling him anything is possible. As you can see i used other examples, not just tarot, in what i said. Precisely why then one class shouldn't be powered up via. skills. Instead, have it powered up by a custom card or equipment. my equips are fine. most people ask me what to use. making berzerk activate at 50 or 60% hp will make this skill more useful. other things still need to be improved but this is a start.
Damnascus Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 no its not, i was responding to what biscuit said and telling him anything is possible. As you can see i used other examples, not just tarot, in what i said. my equips are fine. most people ask me what to use. making berzerk activate at 50 or 60% hp will make this skill more useful. other things still need to be improved but this is a start. I'm just quoting what Genesis basically said a while back, which was the result of the Whitesmith Card. Improve classes by custom equipments and cards. I don't mean your current ones either. I mean creating new ones.
supream Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Posted July 16, 2010 nothing that i could think of could be created to be as good as the master forger cards for the white smith class. those were created due to the fact that fbh didnt work with their skill while all other classes got an advantage.
xBiscuit Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) I wouldn't mind have an LK card, tbh. I just want them to have a boost. Ever since that edge nerf, I don't see the point of PvPing on my LK anymore. The only strategy now is pure STR and that goes no where if someone uses a shield. :/ Either make an LK card or put the old percentage of coma back on edge. Edited July 16, 2010 by xBiscuit
supream Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Posted July 16, 2010 coma isnt the only way to win. 19kx2 dose more damage then you think.
xBiscuit Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 coma isnt the only way to win. 19kx2 dose more damage then you think. I know it isn't. I'm saying if I go edge, the person goes GTB, I go back to full damage, and he's dead. 19kx2 definitely does more damage, but let me just use a ygg.
Damnascus Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Or create a quest that allows you to have a specialized "Edge" based weapon (with no slots) that has the same % as the old one (because I'm sure you don't want Assassin Crosses using that Edge) for Lord-Knights that is pretty difficult to achieve but ultimately would once again bring versatility back to the class due to people being obliged to using GTB in order to defend themselves from this? By doing so, you wouldn't have to tamper with the class itself.
supream Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) I know it isn't. I'm saying if I go edge, the person goes GTB, I go back to full damage, and he's dead. 19kx2 definitely does more damage, but let me just use a ygg. like i said real pvp is the person who runs out of yggs first. Or create a quest that allows you to have a specialized "Edge" based weapon (with no slots) that has the same % as the old one (because I'm sure you don't want Assassin Crosses using that Edge) for Lord-Knights that is pretty difficult to achieve but ultimately would once again bring versatility back to the class due to people being obliged to using GTB in order to defend themselves from this? By doing so, you wouldn't have to tamper with the class itself. why would u do that? why not just fix the weapon that is already there instead of making up a new weapon coding it and putting it in. the class itself dose need a boost. but not a retarded one. Edited July 16, 2010 by supream
Terroryst Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Why are you guys saying LK needs a boost...
Terroryst Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 I know enough to know that LKs aren't underpowered lol.
Terroryst Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 They're only sitting ducks when they're being taroted. Otherwise if they're being AV spammed, they can just spam Spear Boom or Spiral Pierce back, and we all know which class has more HP. Melee class? BB does a lot, and it knocks them back. They put RSX on? Hell, better for the LK. Seems to me that main people that want buffs like this are people that wanna be tanks AND do insane damage at the same time.
supream Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Posted July 16, 2010 i dont see the big problem here. all i wanted is berzerk to be changed.
Terroryst Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 LKs are already good without it, that's the problem.
xBiscuit Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 And real PvP is about who has the most yggs and can use them with skill.
Damnascus Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 why would u do that? why not just fix the weapon that is already there instead of making up a new weapon coding it and putting it in. the class itself dose need a boost. but not a retarded one. Because 1) If the original Edge is brought back to how it used to be, Assassin Crosses will once again be op ; 2) Requesting a quest to be done in order to achieve the weapon will sort of not only add "fun" to gaining this but will as well not allow every single LK out there to have this edge in combat [see the joke?] The class itself doesn't need the boost, it just needs the versatility it used to have and people need to simply learn how to use the class correctly. If you have the new edge, then people will be obliged to switch to GTB or else they'll have a higher chance of receiving Coma, therefore leaving you an open chance to deal higher damage against the enemies, where if they switch to reductions, they will be open to Coma.
supream Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Posted July 16, 2010 why not just do the same thing they did to vr card to the edge. not most people know how to use lk.
Damnascus Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 why not just do the same thing they did to vr card to the edge. not most people know how to use lk. Customize the edge to only work for Lord Knights with a higher percentage? Because, it shouldn't be available to everyone off a shop. :P
Terroryst Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Guillotine works pretty well if I remember correctly.
Damnascus Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Guillotine works pretty well if I remember correctly. Isn't it two handed?