Terroryst Posted January 1, 2010 Report Posted January 1, 2010 NOBODY BADASS LIKE ME NGA! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Ethereal Posted January 1, 2010 Report Posted January 1, 2010 Thanks Wish, a PM has now been sent to them regarding the SOTW judge title change. ps gtfo jay nobody wants u here
Terroryst Posted January 1, 2010 Report Posted January 1, 2010 punch u in yo ovary nga Wait timeout, we still didn't find out what them. Is it Holiday/New Year?
Ethereal Posted January 1, 2010 Report Posted January 1, 2010 We're not sure. Maybe we could get the two new judges' opinions on what a new theme should be.
Ethereal Posted January 3, 2010 Report Posted January 3, 2010 Note: sorry guys, but I've been extremely busy lately dealing with family matters. I'll talk to Genesis & Sensation about VapoRub/Nyanko being SOTW judges soon but if anyone else would like to talk to them about it, then feel free to go. I don't think I can start it tomorrow, maybe next week? I feel like we kind of rushed these things so maybe we should have more time to prepare.
» Pat Posted January 3, 2010 Author Report Posted January 3, 2010 God I didn't notice someone replied to this thread. q___q
Terroryst Posted January 3, 2010 Report Posted January 3, 2010 God I didn't notice someone replied to this thread. q___q Dumb skank. Alright, so lets prepare some more this week.
Devotion Posted January 4, 2010 Report Posted January 4, 2010 Hi gaize. There's a few questions I'd like to be answered before Ami opens the next SOTW. 1. Are judges allowed to make an entry? 2. Who are the judges? Only us three/us and the entire GM team? 3. Are we already using the new rules Ami made and if so, why aren't they posted, yet? 4. Should we post the SOTW in here before we start it, so every judge can take a look at it and see if there's any mistakes or any special rules not being stated? E.g. SOTW T-shirts: There must not be any kind of BG. Spelling mistakes, whatsoever. eta: If you didn't notice, yes, this sub-forum is hidden. 1. Absolutely not. 2. Ethereal, Jay, Pat, Cassiopeia, Nyanko as far as I know. The GM team is too irregular to have every GM as a judge, so you can have guest judges for specific weeks. 3. If the rules aren't posted, don't use them. 4. Whatever makes your lives happier, easier and less complicated. Just make sure you follow through with your decisions. Dumb skank. Whether or not you guys are friends or that this forum is hidden, you shouldn't be calling each other vulgar names. Whether you think so or not, you're part of the Fro Staff in your specific capacity, and you should show it. Hard assed but there it is.
Terroryst Posted January 5, 2010 Report Posted January 5, 2010 Whether or not you guys are friends or that this forum is hidden, you shouldn't be calling each other vulgar names. Whether you think so or not, you're part of the Fro Staff in your specific capacity, and you should show it. Hard assed but there it is. Sigh, oki. Wait, why shouldn't we be able to enter entries? If we get taken off the list, we'll only be getting 2-4 entries. 4 would be VERY rare.
Devotion Posted January 5, 2010 Report Posted January 5, 2010 Judges never participate in the competition and as a general rule in society is seen as unfair to do so. Do Game Masters participate in their own events? Not if they want to keep GMing :P
Ethereal Posted January 5, 2010 Report Posted January 5, 2010 Judges being able to participate is kind of a touchy subject. I did make a rule about them being able to participate: ¤ Judges are permitted to enter the competition. ¬ When judges participate, they are the same as any other contestant. They will have to follow the same rules and do not receive any special treatment at all. But feel free to discuss about the rule. Maybe it would be fair if they are able to participate but when they do, they'll be labeled the same as any other contestant out there.
Terroryst Posted January 5, 2010 Report Posted January 5, 2010 Judges never participate in the competition and as a general rule in society is seen as unfair to do so. Do Game Masters participate in their own events? Not if they want to keep GMing :P Just because they're judges doesn't mean they're the best at what they do. They may be very good, yes, but not the best. I've seen GMs participate in their own events, I don't see a problem with it. Not like having your legit character in Dice rigs it so that you win. Heck, same goes for LMS, just because you enter doesn't mean you're guaranteed to win.
» Pat Posted January 5, 2010 Author Report Posted January 5, 2010 Just because they're judges doesn't mean they're the best at what they do. They may be very good, yes, but not the best. I've seen GMs participate in their own events, I don't see a problem with it. Not like having your legit character in Dice rigs it so that you win. Heck, same goes for LMS, just because you enter doesn't mean you're guaranteed to win. MTE. I have seen a lot of Game Masters participate in their own events and as far as I can remember, there's been an official statement to it, saying it is not illegal. (...Are you trying to play the role of the bad cop?)
Devotion Posted January 5, 2010 Report Posted January 5, 2010 No, I'm playing the role of a Senior GM and I'm telling you judges should not participate. But it's your guy's little thing and you can run it how you want unless I or another GM really says no to something. But I'm telling you now players will not appreciate a judge participating in their own competition, and between the five of you, one of you will win at least half of the time (I'm going off of previous SOTW's). Then you'll get rumors about cheating and being unfair. Yeap GM's participate in their own events now, and it never used to be this way. And as you can see by the current GM team it's not doing so well, maybe because some are more interested in themselves than entertaining the community. It never used to be this way, and Game Masters could never participate in their own event except GvG. I would know, I enforced this, and we were much better off.
Terroryst Posted January 5, 2010 Report Posted January 5, 2010 No, I'm playing the role of a Senior GM and I'm telling you judges should not participate. But it's your guy's little thing and you can run it how you want unless I or another GM really says no to something. But I'm telling you now players will not appreciate a judge participating in their own competition, and between the five of you, one of you will win at least half of the time (I'm going off of previous SOTW's). Then you'll get rumors about cheating and being unfair. Yeap GM's participate in their own events now, and it never used to be this way. And as you can see by the current GM team it's not doing so well, maybe because some are more interested in themselves than entertaining the community. It never used to be this way, and Game Masters could never participate in their own event except GvG. I would know, I enforced this, and we were much better off. We won it because we were the only ones participating. GMs participated in their own events since Amalgamation's time. And that's a LONG time ago. I can recall Amalgamation and Themistoclae(I think that's how you spelled it) participating in their own events. So you can't say it never used to be this way.
» Pat Posted January 5, 2010 Author Report Posted January 5, 2010 Themistocles. Lol. And yep, GMs have always participated in their own events. Long before you even became one. So yeah; if no judge disagrees on this matter, we are allowed to participate.
Terroryst Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Don't take this the wrong way, but just look at all the competitions. If anybody else besides the current judges entered, we will only see about 2 sigs.
Devotion Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Actually, The GM team was quite lenient with their members early on, then got stricter around Shield's time and when I became one he upheld that authority and the team was marvelous. He was hard assed and my generation learned the strict ways. No GM participated in their own events and we were much better for it. You can't just say you're allowed to participate because the alternative means very little participation; get players motivated, that's also your jobs. If you want to participate, then you should refrain from judging and get a guest judge to replace you that week.
Terroryst Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Actually, The GM team was quite lenient with their members early on, then got stricter around Shield's time and when I became one he upheld that authority and the team was marvelous. He was hard assed and my generation learned the strict ways. No GM participated in their own events and we were much better for it. You can't just say you're allowed to participate because the alternative means very little participation; get players motivated, that's also your jobs. If you want to participate, then you should refrain from judging and get a guest judge to replace you that week. Hope it's like that when the new guys pop up. If we replace ourselves with a guest judge, then that risks bribery. I don't need the coupons for anything in-game, so I wouldn't worry too much about myself. Some suggestions on how to get them motivated would help. I've only broadcasted in-game for some SOTWs, but that's pretty little motivation. Many in-game players don't even touch the forums, let alone search it for events like this. I guess the guest judge would be good if we replaced ourselves with trustworthy GMs or somebody attached to the server.
Devotion Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 One problem is that the it's the same people who participate and win, and even when other less known people participate, they rarely win. There's no incentive to even try for them.
Ethereal Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Our main concern for now is promoting the SOTW and getting people to participate. Are we permitted to ask the GM's to broadcast once in a while about the SOTW? I was also planning to talk to Jorge about posting a topic about the SOTW in the "events" section or another section of the forums, where more people look at. As for the discussion about the judges being able to participate, maybe we should have a topic that all players are free to look at, and ask for their opinion on judges being able to participate. I don't want to limit the discussion to just a few people.
Wish Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Well...personally, I have to agree with Devotion in this. I feel that, if you choose to participate, you should take that week off from judging. While GMs do participate in many of their own events, most players do not know their legits, and we do not participate in Hide and Seek or Warp Portal for obvious reasons. Would it really take a toll if one or two of you chose to take a break from judging one week? You could even work out an alternating schedule, or discuss who would enter if they really wanted to enter a certain theme. If you all three want to enter, you still have the GM team as judges. We can push that. As Devotion pointed out, participating and judging could lead to accusations you don't want. If you want to compare it to GMing, we get accused of helping our friends win from time to time as it is. However, if players lose faith in the judges, there will be even fewer entries. The event could just as easily die. As for broadcasting, I personally don't see a problem with it. I won't say anything one way or another, but we could talk about it, I'm sure.
Terroryst Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 I'll sit a few out to see if other people participate. It would really be helpful if we got moved up to a higher section of the forums though, we're kinda down really low on it.
Terroryst Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 We're nearly the lowest section of the forums. It would be helpful if we were moved closer to the top, say in the Events section like Ami said, so it's easier to be seen.
