Armani Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 Reduce the delay on Asura/TSS. It's ridiculous how slow you can Asura now. Even with 3 kiels (which is the max you can combine).
Apo Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 The slowness is on your side. I can asura pretty damn fast after a little warm-up
Devotion Posted October 14, 2009 Report Posted October 14, 2009 First they asura too fast. Now it's too slow? Perhaps it's fine the way it is.
Ryoji Posted October 14, 2009 Report Posted October 14, 2009 The slowness is on your side. I can asura pretty damn fast after a little warm-up
Adamxd Posted October 14, 2009 Report Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) Reduce the delay on Asura/TSS. It's ridiculous how slow you can Asura now. Even with 3 kiels (which is the max you can combine). Are u kidding? they are fast enough. Btw I don't care but champs are overpowered. Ridiculous is how pallies are slow with defender. Edited October 14, 2009 by Adamxd
Daniel Rose Posted October 14, 2009 Report Posted October 14, 2009 I havent noticed any slowdown in the asura time
Adamxd Posted October 14, 2009 Report Posted October 14, 2009 I havent noticed any slowdown in the asura time Exactly, but difference is sensible when you're playing champ. It's good as it is now or even too fast
Armani Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) Champs are the only class that got nerfed 3 times in the past "year". So I think it's sensible that they at least reduce the delay back to what it originally was. A few others have felt the delay rise in the Champions class arsenal of attacks including "Throw Spirit Sphere" and "Asura Strike". So... maybe it's not just me? Edit. Regardless if there ISN'T one than I apologize for any further comments. But until I get notification that there wasn't one. I'm just going to leave this argument up in the air for everyone to make a big fuss over. Edited October 14, 2009 by Armani
Adamxd Posted October 14, 2009 Report Posted October 14, 2009 Champ is a char who is able to kill everyone. Man asura and tss are ultimate ofensive skills ! You said that beceause you are using champ at time. Am I right? But it's ok that you are defending your class. When pally got nefred I was arguing too, but I get used to it and I'm not crying anymore. Come on Jae be tough gms won't change anything.
Armani Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Posted October 14, 2009 Champ is a char who is able to kill everyone. Man asura and tss are ultimate ofensive skills ! You said that beceause you are using champ at time. Am I right? But it's ok that you are defending your class. When pally got nefred I was arguing too, but I get used to it and I'm not crying anymore. Come on Jae be tough gms won't change anything. That's the whole point though I play EVERY class, and I'm proficient at them all. I just noticed that one specific class keeps getting the bucket because of everyone "QQing" about how fast they asura and such. There are draw backs we have to use 3 kiels and a Maya P (which in turn can get us Stone Cursed). Even if we want to full Asura it draws our hp down to 70k at highest which can lead to anyone killing us. If we decide to go High Vit we can't survive an Asura but we can survive against Thana for a little. If we decide to use Raydrics, Thanatos Card/Ice Picks just fuck us over. It's just practice makes perfect for every class, and every class has a draw back. Just because a few people decide to whine over one specific class on a constant, doesn't mean it should be constantly over-looked that the class is becoming a dwindling commute for others.
Adamxd Posted October 14, 2009 Report Posted October 14, 2009 Nobody is perfect! If champ was like you said everyone would play it. If other class wan survive full asura has to use 1h wep and wear rays or devs and can get also rape by thana/ice pick. Change class.
Armani Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Posted October 14, 2009 Nobody is perfect! If champ was like you said everyone would play it. If other class wan survive full asura has to use 1h wep and wear rays or devs and can get also rape by thana/ice pick. Change class. Which is why they were fine the the way they WERE before the increased delay in TSS/Asura.
Superman^* Posted October 14, 2009 Report Posted October 14, 2009 Even with 4 kiels you have that fking delay.
Penguin545 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Posted October 14, 2009 The same should go to SB! it's no fun just clicking on people with no skills.
*Kevin* Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 Well Jae , not only champs are nerfed :) . As long as the average age of this server is what it is , people will keep complaining ( QQing ) and balanced classes will be nerfed .
Anarii Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 I'll agree that there is an added delay to tss/asura compared to before, but it's balanced out by the added delays to SB,AD,Spiral and others. I guess.
Devotion Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 Champion is still ranked in the top 3 classes in the PVP ladder and PVP events and they're the number one melee MVP class. I've checked with Jorge and Apo and there's been no recent changes to them.
Cirrus Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 I think all these changes that wasn't fRO-official came from that recent eathena update.
Armani Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Posted October 15, 2009 I'm just saying that the delay given to Champs wasn't necessarily needed. I now see people that were playing Champs quit, or just don't main it anymore. Because they can't Asura as proficiently or as quickly as before. It's fine with me to be honest. I'm just voicing the public for them. It just seems no one wants to speak up anymore.
Sorrow Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 It just seems no one wants to speak up anymore. Not speaking up anymore...i think i know the feeling XP As for Asura, i dunno, i still see people doing it much faster than it should be...and as long as it deals damage i think it is okay ^^
Anarii Posted November 6, 2009 Report Posted November 6, 2009 It just seems no one wants to speak up anymore. because the suggestions either get ignored, or accepted then take months (if ever) to be implemented.
Armani Posted November 6, 2009 Author Report Posted November 6, 2009 because the suggestions either get ignored, or accepted then take months (if ever) to be implemented. To bad I'm extremely stubborn :(
Devotion Posted November 7, 2009 Report Posted November 7, 2009 As I said we haven't purposefully added any delay.