-R e i Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 lawl I just posted my wing above :D EDIT : And this thing : Demon Red Wing :D
helios_eclipse Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 Yeap, I second those who mentioned, "no stats on wings". I mean lets say you have one of the normal wings, +15% movement speed. Then one of these new questable wings gives you 5% movement speed and a stats boost. Which would you consider? An extra 10% movement speed? Or an increase in some stats? :blush:
Devotion Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 I don't understand why so many people are wanting stats on wings... NO wings have stat improvements. Death angel has +2 str and +2 luk. Any stats on quest wings wouldn't be much more than that. And any walking speed would be less than donation wings.
helios_eclipse Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 ouhh~ i just remembered! this is where red and blue feathers might come in handy as well :tongue:
-R e i Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 ouhh~ i just remembered! this is where red and blue feathers might come in handy as well :tongue: YAY!
helios_eclipse Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 other items that may also be useable: fly wings(of course it must be required in a large quantity,say,1.5-2k,since its easy to get) butterfly wings(as above) soft feathers(as suggested earlier) dye stuffs(also suggested earlier) sweet milk(most of the quest use this so why not?) fluffs wing of red bat. i think this stuff can be used for the questable wings IF it is approved and accepted.
-R e i Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 3 User(s) are reading this topic (0 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users) 3 Members: -R e i, Devotion, Dart ouuuuu~ xD
helios_eclipse Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 and find some useful uses for unused mvp cards like atroce, the not quite useful ones like drake and etc. you know them. :blush:
Devotion Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 ^Actually not a bad idea...but they'd have to stay useless or it would be a shame to improve on atroce just to throw them away in a quest.
Rayna Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Posted June 23, 2009 Yeah. It's already wrenching to use some of the more useful cards for the elite quest (i.e. Bascojin for priests). This should be fine, so long as the "useless cards" don't become very useful in the future. I agree with Devotion on that. If people really want a stat boost, I would suggest +5 to agility. It makes sense for wings and is at least somewhat useful as it adds to both dodge and attack speed. I think the stat boost would be good if we use MvP cards in the quest, since the Death Angel quest also uses two Lord of Death cards and gives the boost it does.
Rayna Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Posted June 25, 2009 other items that may also be useable: fly wings(of course it must be required in a large quantity,say,1.5-2k,since its easy to get) butterfly wings(as above) soft feathers(as suggested earlier) dye stuffs(also suggested earlier) sweet milk(most of the quest use this so why not?) fluffs wing of red bat. i think this stuff can be used for the questable wings IF it is approved and accepted. I chose not to suggest fly/butterfly wings because you can buy them and it seems pointless if you can just go and pick them up for as cheap as they are. I know you suggested large amounts, but it seems failrly pointless for quest wings... How about this?: Wing #1 (Feminine) 1000 Soft Feathers 1000 Feathers 800 Feather of Birds 750 Fluff 600 Red Feathers 500 Peco Peco Feathers 350 Harpy Feathers 200 Sweet Milk 150 Honey 10 Dyestuff for the color of wing you want (if we have multiple colors) 1 MvP Card (Give suggestions: Atroce, Drake, Doppelganger, Detale) Wing #2 (Masculine) 1000 Soft Feathers 1000 Feathers 1000 Wing of Red Bat (Instead of the 500 Peco Peco Feathers in the above wing, 1000 because they drop in twos) 800 Feather of Birds 750 Fluff 600 Blue Feathers 350 Harpy Feathers 200 Sweet Milk 150 Honey 10 Dyestuff (as above) 1 MvP Card (as above, a different one from the feminine wing) That would take a while. I think I included every type of feather in that... What does everyone think about that list? (We can always lower the numbers if this is too difficult) Also, sorry for the double post. I had the idea for this and decided to suggest it. ;P
Masahiro Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 i push for the idea for these questable wings, i think they would be good for our server, i mean why should our server lack in this aspect where so many other servers have these sort of quests, to give players diversification and allow them to be different from one another sometimes gear should go beyond stats and have an appealing look rofl why else wud a 255/255 elite full fset biochem wear a panda hat and crunch toast if she didnt wanna look different and aesthetically appealing in her own unique way? (Fathfull. im calling u out =P! *tunggg*) its thngs liek this that can further make ourr awsm server stand out from others (things like this in advertising the sever should go a long way) .....thnk abt it... again this is a VERY good idea *you can all fight over stats later =P*
Hated Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 If the wings are ment for newer users why make them hunt for a MVP?
Rayna Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Posted June 25, 2009 Yea, I thought about that. But people seem to want the quest more challenging...and one MvP card from an easier MvP should be ok. Of course, with all the other items, I don't think the card is necessary. Other opinions?
helios_eclipse Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 one thing i thought about after posting that idea about the less useful mvp cards. =.=" ---edit--- well, just as most of the quest equips, the mvp cards can be excluded. the numbers of those items suggested by rayna (^) is also quite enough ^^"
Rayna Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Posted June 25, 2009 one thing i thought about after posting that idea about the less useful mvp cards. =.=" ---edit--- well, just as most of the quest equips, the mvp cards can be excluded. the numbers of those items suggested by rayna (^) is also quite enough ^^" I'd have to agree. I made that list from what everyone had been suggesting, but I think the MvP card might end up being a little overkill. As Hated said, I proposed this to be for newbies...
orthikuss Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 I chose not to suggest fly/butterfly wings because you can buy them and it seems pointless if you can just go and pick them up for as cheap as they are. I know you suggested large amounts, but it seems failrly pointless for quest wings... How about this?: Wing #1 (Feminine) 1000 Soft Feathers 1000 Feathers 800 Feather of Birds 750 Fluff 600 Red Feathers 500 Peco Peco Feathers 350 Harpy Feathers 200 Sweet Milk 150 Honey 10 Dyestuff for the color of wing you want (if we have multiple colors) 1 MvP Card (Give suggestions: Atroce, Drake, Doppelganger, Detale) Wing #2 (Masculine) 1000 Soft Feathers 1000 Feathers 1000 Wing of Red Bat (Instead of the 500 Peco Peco Feathers in the above wing, 1000 because they drop in twos) 800 Feather of Birds 750 Fluff 600 Blue Feathers 500 Peco Peco Feathers 350 Harpy Feathers 200 Sweet Milk 150 Honey 10 Dyestuff (as above) 1 MvP Card (as above, a different one from the feminine wing) That would take a while. I think I included every type of feather in that... What does everyone think about that list? (We can always lower the numbers if this is too difficult) Also, sorry for the double post. I had the idea for this and decided to suggest it. ;P omg rayna bunny, you have a great spirit!! farm a lot items xD almost same as elite quest @,@ this unquested MVP card: (if i not wrong xD) amon ra atroce beelzebub detale FBH gloom GTB ifrit kiel ktullanux tanee mistress OL pharaoh RSX tao thana TG valkyrie vesper egnigem cenia NB: red word means to danger or over price or rare MVP
Devotion Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Since death angel has two stats for each luk and str, the same could be applied to quest wings with the addition of 5% walking speed. We can either have three wings with two stats each that specialize in certain builds, example: Blue Winger: +2 int, +2 dex Red Winger: +2 str, +2 vit Green Winger: +2 luk, +2 agi Or we can have six quest wings with 4 of only one stat, example: Blue Winger: +4 int and so on. Another way to have the quest would be in levels. So, one hunts the first wing and it has +2 stats. Once you do that you hunt the second wing, which has +4 stats, then the third wing with +6 stats etc. With each level of quest wings the items needed would be subsequently harder. -------------------------------------- If we use MVP cards for the quest they must be the ones used in our other quests, and preferably they should be easily killed or common MVP cards, like Amon, Atroce and Pharaoh. A secondary benefit would be to increase their value. Because ironically everything in our economy is unreasonably high priced except for the useless MVP cards (and yggs, wth happened :P). Hopefully the addition of these wings wouldn't make them increase in value too much.
orthikuss Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Another way to have the quest would be in levels. So, one hunts the first wing and it has +2 stats. Once you do that you hunt the second wing, which has +4 stats, then the third wing with +6 stats etc. With each level of quest wings the items needed would be subsequently harder. fresh idea!! many ppl don't use death angel anymore, because another lower headgear appear (which is more better than death angel). death angel is not appropriate anymore with his requirement. my suggestion, wing of fire - red hot!! MS +10 PD +10 +10% fire resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 fire ball/magnum break wing of wind MS +10 PD +10 +10% wind resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 jupiter thunder wing of water MS +10 PD +10 +10% water resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 frost diver/nova wing of earth MS +10 PD +10 +10% earth resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 stone curse/heaven drive when recieve physical/magical attack requirement: WOFa: 1000 red blood 200 burning heart 200 red bijou 200 flame heart 10 match stick 1 ifrit/skoll/detale card WOWi: 1000 rough wind 200 fly wing 200 yellow bijou 200 wind of verdure 10 talon of gryphon 1 mistress card WOWa: 1000 crystal blue 200 ice heart 200 blue bijou 200 mystic frozen 10 ice cubic/fang of garm 1 ktullanux card WOEa: 1000 green live 200 stone heart 200 green bijou 200 great nature 10 stone 1 amon ra/RSX card NB: ice wings (vote); attack +100, MS +10, (PD +10)
eXile Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 fresh idea!! many ppl don't use death angel anymore, because another lower headgear appear (which is more better than death angel). death angel is not appropriate anymore with his requirement. my suggestion, wing of fire - red hot!! MS +10 PD +10 +10% fire resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 fire ball/magnum break wing of wind MS +10 PD +10 +10% wind resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 jupiter thunder wing of water MS +10 PD +10 +10% water resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 frost diver/nova wing of earth MS +10 PD +10 +10% earth resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 stone curse/heaven drive when recieve physical/magical attack requirement: WOFa: 1000 red blood 200 burning heart 200 red bijou 200 flame heart 10 match stick 1 ifrit/skoll/detale card WOWi: 1000 rough wind 200 fly wing 200 yellow bijou 200 wind of verdure 10 talon of gryphon 1 mistress card WOWa: 1000 crystal blue 200 ice heart 200 blue bijou 200 mystic frozen 10 ice cubic/fang of garm 1 ktullanux card WOEa: 1000 green live 200 stone heart 200 green bijou 200 great nature 10 stone 1 amon ra/RSX card NB: ice wings (vote); attack +100, MS +10, (PD +10) isnt this 2 much ..well if its for beginners shld be more simpler and i think the server shld hav a npc for wing and where u can make normal wings like which adds 5% walking speed or so not considering the stats since dons give 10% so 5-7% is good enuf nd mvp cards shldn be put in but like if u wanna make colored wings or so dyes or angeling or deviling card for butterfly wings but they r for dons lol...maybe ice wings o0 or phoenix wings
-R e i Posted June 27, 2009 Report Posted June 27, 2009 Yea, I thought about that. But people seem to want the quest more challenging...and one MvP card from an easier MvP should be ok. Of course, with all the other items, I don't think the card is necessary. Other opinions? SUGGESTING A STUPID BUT EASIER MVP! A mini-boss MVPs hehe angeling archangeling ghostring ... okay?
Rayna Posted June 27, 2009 Author Report Posted June 27, 2009 omg rayna bunny, you have a great spirit!! farm a lot items xD almost same as elite quest @,@ this unquested MVP card: (if i not wrong xD) amon ra atroce beelzebub detale FBH gloom GTB ifrit kiel ktullanux tanee mistress OL pharaoh RSX tao thana TG valkyrie vesper egnigem cenia NB: red word means to danger or over price or rare MVP Ok...bunny? O.o *off topic* Since death angel has two stats for each luk and str, the same could be applied to quest wings with the addition of 5% walking speed. We can either have three wings with two stats each that specialize in certain builds, example: Blue Winger: +2 int, +2 dex Red Winger: +2 str, +2 vit Green Winger: +2 luk, +2 agi Or we can have six quest wings with 4 of only one stat, example: Blue Winger: +4 int and so on. Another way to have the quest would be in levels. So, one hunts the first wing and it has +2 stats. Once you do that you hunt the second wing, which has +4 stats, then the third wing with +6 stats etc. With each level of quest wings the items needed would be subsequently harder. -------------------------------------- If we use MVP cards for the quest they must be the ones used in our other quests, and preferably they should be easily killed or common MVP cards, like Amon, Atroce and Pharaoh. A secondary benefit would be to increase their value. Because ironically everything in our economy is unreasonably high priced except for the useless MVP cards (and yggs, wth happened :P). Hopefully the addition of these wings wouldn't make them increase in value too much. I like the increasing level idea! It gives the players something to continue to work for. If we were to do that, maybe a mini boss card (as Rei suggested) could be used for the second level, and a more useless boss card could be used for the third? Also, they shouldn't increase in value too much, but maybe having a little increase on these easier boss cards would maybe allow newer players to get donation coupons faster/earlier...But I also think that the stats shouldn't be determined by the color. Players should be able to choose which color they want for all stats...but that might be somewhat difficult. We don't have to, just a thought. fresh idea!! many ppl don't use death angel anymore, because another lower headgear appear (which is more better than death angel). death angel is not appropriate anymore with his requirement. my suggestion, wing of fire - red hot!! MS +10 PD +10 +10% fire resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 fire ball/magnum break wing of wind MS +10 PD +10 +10% wind resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 jupiter thunder wing of water MS +10 PD +10 +10% water resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 frost diver/nova wing of earth MS +10 PD +10 +10% earth resistance 3% chance autocast lv. 10 stone curse/heaven drive when recieve physical/magical attack requirement: WOFa: 1000 red blood 200 burning heart 200 red bijou 200 flame heart 10 match stick 1 ifrit/skoll/detale card WOWi: 1000 rough wind 200 fly wing 200 yellow bijou 200 wind of verdure 10 talon of gryphon 1 mistress card WOWa: 1000 crystal blue 200 ice heart 200 blue bijou 200 mystic frozen 10 ice cubic/fang of garm 1 ktullanux card WOEa: 1000 green live 200 stone heart 200 green bijou 200 great nature 10 stone 1 amon ra/RSX card NB: ice wings (vote); attack +100, MS +10, (PD +10) These lists could be good for the third level, if we do indeed go with the different levels. But I think that those bonuses might be a bit much for a quest...I think we should stick with the +2 to one stat, +4 to one stat, and +6 to one stat with maybe something small added to each level... Ok, then, maybe a more simplified version of the list I proposed before could be used for the first level, without adding any MvP drops or cards.
